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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #75 on: July 18, 2018, 04:21:22 PM »
12 of our payslips goes from the 1st of July 2017 through the 30th of June 2018. That covers one full year. So I only need to submit the most recent 12.

Does the first payslip state that it covers the period from 1st July 2017, or is it only dated 31st July? You have to cover every single day of the 12 months, so you need something on the payslips that states either '30th June 2017' or '1st July 2017' on it.

If it doesn't and the only date is 31st July 2017, then you must include the June 2017 payslip as well so that it covers 30th June 2017 to 30th June 2018

Personally, I would include 13 payslips and 13 bank statements, to be on the safe side (you don't want the visa to be refused because you were 1 day short of 12 months), and write the amount of all 13 payslips added together 3.20.

At the end of the day though, as long as the total comes to at least £18,600 with only 12 of the payslips, it won't matter which figure you write, because either way you will meet the requirements. The important thing is that the physical payslips and bank statements cover the ENTIRE 12 months - and the easiest/best way to do this is to include 13 months worth.


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #76 on: July 18, 2018, 04:47:43 PM »
Does the first payslip state that it covers the period from 1st July 2017, or is it only dated 31st July? You have to cover every single day of the 12 months, so you need something on the payslips that states either '30th June 2017' or '1st July 2017' on it.

If it doesn't and the only date is 31st July 2017, then you must include the June 2017 payslip as well so that it covers 30th June 2017 to 30th June 2018

Personally, I would include 13 payslips and 13 bank statements, to be on the safe side (you don't want the visa to be refused because you were 1 day short of 12 months), and write the amount of all 13 payslips added together 3.20.

At the end of the day though, as long as the total comes to at least £18,600 with only 12 of the payslips, it won't matter which figure you write, because either way you will meet the requirements. The important thing is that the physical payslips and bank statements cover the ENTIRE 12 months - and the easiest/best way to do this is to include 13 months worth.
Okay perfect. Either way the total is above the required amount so I’ll just include all 13. Thank you. I’m sorry I get so confused.


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2018, 02:26:52 AM »
Going through all the bank statements and checking amounts against the payslips. On one the payslip says payment date 30/03/18 but in the bank statement it shows it being deposited on 29/03/18. There isn’t even any activity for the 30th. Will this cause a problem? Even though the amount is correct?


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2018, 02:32:24 AM »
Also one of the months bank statement does not reflect that he was paid at all but he has a payslip for it. I have no idea what to do about this. And I’m running out of time in regards to the 28 day time limit on the employer letter.


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #79 on: July 23, 2018, 05:35:19 PM »
Is it okay to highlight the deposit of the wage on the bank statements to make it easier for them to see it? Or just leave it be?


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #80 on: July 23, 2018, 05:59:06 PM »
Is it okay to highlight the deposit of the wage on the bank statements to make it easier for them to see it? Or just leave it be?


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Just leave it. You are not supposed to deface the statements in any way and they know what they are looking for!


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2018, 06:20:02 PM »
Also one of the months bank statement does not reflect that he was paid at all but he has a payslip for it. I have no idea what to do about this. And I’m running out of time in regards to the 28 day time limit on the employer letter.


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This needs to be rectified before you apply.  Was he paid that month?

Was it December?  Paydates tend to be different in a December...


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« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2018, 08:28:06 PM »
This needs to be rectified before you apply.  Was he paid that month?

Was it December?  Paydates tend to be different in a December...


Sorry to hijack this but I didn’t think this would be an issue as I have the same problem for December only . Usually I am paid on the 25th and statement comes out on 21, so pay is always reflected on the following months statement . However , due to Xmas , the pay date was 19/12, which meant that this is reflected in Decembers statement . As January pay was on 25/01, the statement covering period 21/12/17 - 20/01/18 does not show a deposit (not paid during this period). I didn’t think this would be a problem as they only need to verify pay slips with deposits . We have submitted the online application and my wife’s biometrics are next week . I have sent her all the documents now .

The reason I am submitting January’s bank statement is because of the 6 months of bank statements rule  . All the dates on the pay slips match the deposit dates on the bank statements and there are no discrepancies in the amounts.

You would think they would look at Decembers pay slip date and verify that against December statement and then look at January’s pay slip date and verify that against February statement . The statements clearly state the time frames they cover . It’s not rocket science but I know they’re not paid to use their brains so this has me worried now .


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2018, 08:39:35 PM »

Sorry to hijack this but I didn’t think this would be an issue as I have the same problem for December only . Usually I am paid on the 25th and statement comes out on 21, so pay is always reflected on the following months statement . However , due to Xmas , the pay date was 19/12, which meant that this is reflected in Decembers statement . As January pay was on 25/01, this means the statement covering period 21/12/17 - 20/01/18 does not show a deposit (not paid during this period). I didn’t think this would be a problem as they only need to verify pay slips with deposits . We have submitted the online application and my wife’s biometrics are next week . I have sent her all the documents now .

The reason I am submitting January’s bank statement is because of the 6 months of bank statements rule  . All the dates on the pay slips match the deposit dates on the bank statements and there are no discrepancies in the amounts.

You would think they would look at Decembers pay slip and verify that against December statement and then look at January’s pay slip and verify that against February statement . This has me worried now .

Do you need the December payslip to meet the 6 months for the financial requirements?

If so, you will also need the November-December bank statement which shows the payslip going in on 19th December.

If necessary, you may need to get your wife to change her biometrics appointment to a later date, so that you can send her the extra bank statement.

However, if you have 6 months of payslips and 6 months of bank statements already, not counting the December pay, then you will be fine and don't need to do anything.


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« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2018, 09:02:32 PM »
Do you need the December payslip to meet the 6 months for the financial requirements?

If so, you will also need the November-December bank statement which shows the payslip going in on 19th December.

If necessary, you may need to get your wife to change her biometrics appointment to a later date, so that you can send her the extra bank statement.

However, if you have 6 months of payslips and 6 months of bank statements already, not counting the December pay, then you will be fine and don't need to do anything.


We are submitting the following payslips :

Dec 2017 - issued 19/12/17 covering Dec 
Jan 2018 - issued 25/01/18 covering jan
Feb 2018 - issued 23/02/18 covering feb
Mar 2018 - issued 23/03/18 covering Mar
Apr 2018 - issued 25/04/18 covering Apr
May 2018 - issued 25/05/18 covering May
June 2018 - issued 25/06/18 covering June

To go with this , the following bank statements :

Dec 17 - issued 21/12/17 covering 21/11/17 - 20/12/17 (verify dec deposit )
Jan 18 - issued 21/01/18 covering 21/12/17 - 20/01/18 (no pay deposit in this period )
Feb 2018 - issued 21/02/18 covering 21/01/18 - 20/02/18 (verify jan deposit )
Mar 2018 - issued 21/03/18 covering 21/02/18 - 20/03/18 (verify Feb deposit )
Apr 2018 - issued 21/04/18 covering 21/03/18 - 20/04/18 (verify mar deposit )
May 2018 - issued 21/05/18 covering 21/04/18 - 20/05/18 (verify Apr deposit)
June 2018 - issued 21/06/18 covering 21/05/18 - 20/06/18 (verify may deposit)
July 2018 - issued 21/07/18 covering 21/06/18 - 20/07/18 (verify June deposit )

In total I am sending 7 pay slips and 8 statements . Also although the pay slips only have the issue date on the top of them , the letter that HR have provided me states that the pay slip covers entire month e.g. it says December 2017 - tax month xx , covering the month of December 2017 .

To answer your question , the December pay slip is not needed as I have 6 months prior to it . However sending 7 because it is recommended to send 7 to be on the safe side . Also because the pay slip only mentions the issue date so if you were to look at that then the 6 pay slips would be dated from 25/01/18 - 25/06/18  (not counting Dec ) which would only be 5 months I believe . This is why I also got HR to write in the employment letter that the pay slips cover the entire month .


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2018, 09:09:55 PM »
Do you need the December payslip to meet the 6 months for the financial requirements?

If so, you will also need the November-December bank statement which shows the payslip going in on 19th December.

If necessary, you may need to get your wife to change her biometrics appointment to a later date, so that you can send her the extra bank statement.

However, if you have 6 months of payslips and 6 months of bank statements already, not counting the December pay, then you will be fine and don't need to do anything.

Just to add to above post , this is what my HR letter says

26/06/2018
To The Entry Clearance Officer,
Ref: Employment confirmation (my name)

I am writing to confirm that (my name) is currently employed at (company) as (job title). (My name) has been employed on a permanent, full-time, salaried contract with us since 20/11/2017. The total length of employment till date is 7 months. (My name) current annual salary is (salary) and they have been earning this salary since 20/11/2017.

I can also confirm that the payslips and P60 provided with this application are authentic and correct, as follows:

December 2017 – Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 09 covering the month of December 2017.
January 2018 – Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 10 covering the month of January 2018.
February 2018 – Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 11 covering the month of February 2018.
March 2018 - Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 12 covering the month of March 2018.
April 2018 - Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 01 covering the month of April 2018.
May 2018 - Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 02 covering the month of May 2018.
June 2018 - Basic pre-tax salary of £(salary), tax month 03 covering the month of June 2018.

P60 – Total pre-tax income of (amount shown on P60) covering tax year to 5 April 2018.

If you require further information please contact (HR manager’s email address)


Sincerely,
(HR managers name)
Interim HR Manager

This makes it clear that even though the issue date on payslip is the end of month , the pay slip covers the entire month . I genuinely feel like I have more than enough there . I don’t know on what basis they could say no . All the evidence is there and it all adds up . We really don’t want to be waiting another month now for next pay slips . This would also mean that I would have to get all the letters re done as they would be over 28 days



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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2018, 09:10:43 PM »
To answer your question , the December pay slip is not needed as I have 6 months prior to it . However sending 7 because it is recommended to send 7 to be on the safe side . Also because the pay slip only mentions the issue date so if you were to look at that then the 6 pay slips would be dated from 25/01/18 - 25/06/18  (not counting Dec ) which would only be 5 months I believe . This is why I also got HR to write in the employment letter that the pay slips cover the entire month .

That's fine.

I'm confused though, what you are worried about?

I thought you were saying that you did NOT have the payslip covering 21/11/17 - 20/12/17, and therefore you had a payslip that wasn't shown on ANY bank statement.

From what you've just said, this is not the case, so you have nothing to worry about... because you have evidence of every single payslip being deposited into the bank account.


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2018, 09:12:53 PM »
This makes it clear that even though the issue date on payslip is the end of month , the pay slip covers the entire month . I genuinely feel like I have more than enough there . I don’t know on what basis they could say no . All the evidence is there and it all adds up . We really don’t want to be waiting another month now for next pay slips . This would also mean that I would have to get all the letters re done as they would be over 28 days

That's fine - you don't need to do anything now.

As long as every payslip is shown on the bank statements, you will meet the requirements.

So, again, not sure what exactly you're worried about, since you have sent everything you need to.


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« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2018, 09:15:11 PM »
That's fine.

I'm confused though, what you are worried about?

I thought you were saying that you did NOT have the payslip covering 21/11/17 - 20/12/17, and therefore you had a payslip that wasn't shown on ANY bank statement.

From what you've just said, this is not the case, so you have nothing to worry about... because you have evidence of every single payslip being deposited into the bank account.

Argh no sorry ! I have got all the pay slips and bank statements to verify them . The OP posted that she had a pay slip for one month but it wasn’t in that months bank statement .

Similarly , I have a bank statement (January ) where I don’t have a pay slip deposit for above-mentioned reasons . So if the ECO looks at the Jan statement , I hope that they will be aware that they’re not going to find anything there . Rather than taking this as there is no deposit being shown on there .

But yes , as you have said , all the pay slips are verified by a bank statement . There are no missing pay slips or statements . Just an extra Jan bank statement which is unnecessary . Just don’t want the ECO to get confused but then again you can’t take it out even if it’s meaningless with regards to deposit .


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Re: First Spousal visa
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2018, 09:18:15 PM »
Argh no sorry ! I have got all the pay slips and bank statements to verify them . The OP posted that she had a pay slip for one month but it wasn’t in that months bank statement .

That's not an issue, because your statements are mid-month to mid-month, so you won't necessarily have the December pay on the 'December' bank statement, because your bank statements actually cover part of 2 months...Nov to Dec, and Dec to Jan.

They won't be specifically looking for the months to match, just the specific dates and amounts of the deposits.


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