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Applying as the British National on behalf of my US Spouse
My wife's health is not the best and currently due to a couple of reasons regarding to family and her current situation it makes more sense for me to apply on her behalf. I was just wondering if this is ok for the GOV? Or does it need to be done by the non UK spouse entirely? I understand there are documents that she needs to get, biometrics etc but apart from those things as far as I guess I can fill it out on her behalf?
Officially it will be her who applies - she needs to submit the online application form from the US, print and complete the VAF4a Appendix 2 form, attend biometrics in the US, mail her documents to the UK etc. You can help her apply and help her fill out the forms, but ultimately, she is the one who submits them and who applies for the visa.
Proof of relationship
Hey guys, still one I am not 100% sure about. My wife and I have know each other since 2015 and that is when we first started chatting etc. Our early convos were mainly done using Skype and now regretfully (As it self deletes messages) KIK. I have just found out that Skype saves your previous message within your device and not in a ‘cloud’ like storage connected to your account. I used to Skype her using an old work laptop which as I have long since left that job is no longer within my lil mitts! So the early Skype records are away! Sob!
I do have a few emails and plane tickets back and from England (Flying from Belfast) but our ‘conversations’ in 2015 is quite limited. Once we get into 2016 however we mainly used Facebook, KIK and thankfully Whatsapp, so we start to have more evidence. I was wondering in terms of regularity what would be best? We have been chatting since 2015, so it’s a fairly hefty timescale and I am hesitant to produce a weighty tome to the visa people! Also I am finding the process of flitting through and loading old messages is taking a lot more time than I thought. So any pointers would be great guys.
Basically, you want to provide whatever you can to show regular communication since 2015.
- Most important is time you have spent together in person, so you provide boarding passes/tickets etc. for visits to see each other
- next, you can send any cards/letters you have mailed/given to each other
- after that, you can include maybe 2-3 pages from each type of other communication, covering the last 3 years... so 2-3 pages of Skype calls/conversations (from whatever date range you have) - just a list of dates and times, no message content, and 2-3 pages of Facebook calls/messages (no message content), and 2-3 pages of Kik messages (no message content) etc.
Best spousal visa for the job
I am currently employed by a charity and my contract ends in March of 2019, however I have talked to some co workers and a project manager and it seems that they are keen on keeping me onl, I have busted my butt off and thankfully it has been noticed. It seems that most people start off on a contract and end up staying. Regardless of this I have been thinking of applying for some permanent jobs. However I had assumed that I could combine say : Old Jobs last 3 Months Earning + New Jobs last 3 months earnings and use that as my previous 6 months earnings to apply for the Spousal visa. However I have been looking at some posts and think I may need corrected on this!
For the financial requirements, unless you have been earning an annual salary of at least £18,600, with the same company for a minimum of 6 months, you will need to provide 12 months of payslips and bank statements showing total earnings (before tax) of £18,600.
So, you must prove:
- you have a current, guaranteed job paying at least £18,600 per year
AND
- you have earned at least £18,600 before tax in the last 12 months
You provide:
- 12 full months of payslips showing a minimum of £18,600 earned
- 12 full months of bank statements showing the deposit of every payslip
- a letter from your employer stating your employment and current annual salary of at least £18,600, length of employment, length of time earning that salary, type of employment, and that you will continue to earn at least £18,600 per year
Optional but recommended:
- original job contract
- latest P60
Alot or a little
As most of us will know we can bump into people who give us conflicting advice. I have heard people say ‘It’s best to give them as much evidence as you can’ however I do hear people say ‘Give them the bare bones and just the stuff they are looking for’. So regarding this, which is the right one? Also what other ‘extra supporting documents’ would be worth putting in? For example : A letter from a Pastor, Politician etc? Sorry if it seems a dumb question I am just pretty keen on getting my missus back.
No, you should not provide 'extra documents' as they cannot be considered and will only clutter the application, making it harder for them to see the important stuff.
ONLY provide the required documents and nothing more.
The only relationship letter they can consider is a sponsor letter of support from you. That's it.
Any other letters will be ignored.
Stateside swag
I know that for US citizens there is an appointment they have to do to get biometrics and stuff. She is in Southern Indiana, for these appointments do they have a centre in each state or will she have to trek across the US for her appointment? Her health isn't the best at times so big journeys ain't fun.
The biometrics will be done by US immigration at a USCIS Application Support Centre on behalf of UKVI. There are 129 centres across the US she can choose from.
She can find her nearest one here:
https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.type&OfficeLocator.office_type=ASCOther bits and bobs
Another question that I have. Earlier this year she came and stayed for under 3 months from January 2018 to March 2018. Since she was flying from the US she landed in Dublin and I picked her up from there. We only made this choice as financially and logistically it made best sense for us at the time. The Irish immigration people at the airport advised her to fly into Belfast next time. When I am filling in the application would it be worth my while explaining her time in the North in a letter? EG ‘At this time my wife flew in via Dublin, we did this unaware of the complications this could cause and because it made financial sense to us at the time. She stayed under three months and left on (date).’
If she enters through Ireland, she goes through Irish immigration only and her visa will be an Irish visitor visa, which allows a maximum of 3 months stay in either Ireland or the UK... because there are no immigration controls between Ireland and the UK.
So, all she had was a 3-month Irish visitor visa... which will be why they advised her to come in through Belfast, as she would have been give a 6-month UK visitor visa. Also, some people will try to enter through Ireland to get into the UK as a way to circumvent UK immigration rules (i.e. if they have been refused entry to the UK), so it can potentially look a bit suspicious if she enters through Ireland all the time.
Also, when she has her spousal visa, she CANNOT enter through Ireland, she should fly into Belfast (or another UK city), because her visa needs to be stamped by UK immigration when she first arrives, which will not happen if she comes in through Ireland.
Also when does the 6 month without a visa period reset? Does it run from January to January of the following year or from the date of the last exit from the UK?
There is no set limit. Each time she enters they will look at how long it's been since she was last here, how much time she has spent in the UK in the last few months, and whether it looks like she is using the visitor visa to 'live' in the UK. If they feel she is abusing the UK visitor visa rules by spending too much time here, they can decide to refuse her entry to the UK.
Northern Irish
Also any other Northern Irish people here who have made the jump or are in the process of? Misery loves company and any advise or helpful pointers would be great! I don't know if I can afford a solicitor but if any have any NI recommendations it might be good to have a few names! Thanks in advance guys, hope I haven't swamped you here. Just trying to put in as much as I can here to avoid me pinging endless (though inevitable) follow up questions! Much love!
I'm not Northern Irish, but I would NOT recommend using a solicitor. The visa is straightforward and can easily be done for free with the help of this forum. I've seen so many people here find the forum after being given extremely bad advice by a solicitor who didn't know what they were doing (one solicitor a couple of months ago actually caused someone's refusal! They reapplied with our help and now have their visa and have just moved to the UK a few days ago).