Can we apply for a Spouse Visa with No Current UK address.

If you live together and have done since you got married, then you don't need to include any of that stuff, because instead, you provide proof of living together for the last 8 years.

If there have been any periods where you have lived apart since getting married, then you should include evidence of communication during that time.

So, you include:

For the time you have lived together:
Evidence of living together for each of the 8 years, for example:
- rental agreements/house deeds
- annual tax teturns
- utility bills
- mortgage statements

For any periods you have lived apart:
- boarding passes from trips to see each other
- letters/cards sent to each other
- evidence of communication, such as screenshots of email inboxes/call logs/message logs

A Relationship Question.

I’m reading online that as part of the ‘Relationship Requirement’ its a good idea to include proof of communications between my wife and myself, such as letters, Facebook and  WhatsApp chat logs etc..!!

We’ve been married 8 years and since we’ve been married, call us ‘Old Fashioned’ but we ‘Talk to one another’.. We neither of us communicate using Facebook, nor WhatsApp, (whatever that is), nor do we write to one another living in the same house..!! 

We do occasionally text one another with our iPhones and iPads, but these records are not kept permanently nor would I know how to print any of these out..?

We occasionally send emails to one another using gmail, but my wife’s email address is still in her former maiden name so I’m sure this would only confuse things even if I knew how to print these out also.

How crucial is it to include communications documentation when none might exist..?

Since posting this I’ve found this website explaining how to print out gmail emails..  But it still doesn’t take away my problem of the maiden name..!

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/8255?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

You only need to provide evidence of communication for any times when you have been apart. So if one of you was working away for a few months, that sort of thing. Otherwise you'll provide evidence of living together instead.

Ahhhh That makes more sense..

Thanks for that ksand24 and larrabee.

Now for my next Catch 22 type statement which is an extract below from an official online Guide to Supporting Documents...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/270197/sup-docs-settlement.pdf

Its the Comment “We advise that you do not make any payments for accommodation, travel and so on until you have received your visa.” which makes me laugh.. IF ONLY... Who in the UK is going to hold Rental Accommodation for you for up to 3 months until your Visa comes through, without wanting to charge you RENT..??!!

*********************************************
Accommodation details

You may wish to submit any of the following documents to provide us with evidence of your accommodation.

We advise that you do not make any payments for accommodation, travel and so on until you have received your visa.
 
Details of the accommodation that you and your sponsor intend to live in and permission for you to stay there along with evidence of any other occupants
This could include:

Land Registry documents
mortgage statements
rent book or tenancy agreement
council tax statements
property inspection report
utilities bills
 accommodation details with a supporting letter from the occupant/ landlord confirming that you are able to stay there
*********************************************

Its the Comment “We advise that you do not make any payments for accommodation, travel and so on until you have received your visa.” which makes me laugh.. IF ONLY... Who in the UK is going to hold Rental Accommodation for you for up to 3 months until your Visa comes through, without wanting to charge you RENT..??!!

To be fair, they really mean things like booking flights to the UK and short-term hotels for when they actually do move, rather than actual long-term accommodation.

Because we have had a few people who have booked their flights (and hotels) before their visa has been issued, and then they've had to change or cancel them because they haven't received their visa in time, or their visa isn't valid yet on the date they booked, or their visa has been refused and they cannot move at all.

I just needed to Grumph..

As you still have to start RENTING accommodation  just to get an address, and fly out to set it up, before you can get a visa, which can be up to 3 months later. 

I’ve got that off my chest now.. 

I just needed to Grumph..

As you still have to start RENTING accommodation  just to get an address, and fly out to set it up, before you can get a visa, which can be up to 3 months later. 

I’ve got that off my chest now.. 

It's extremely rare that we have members who are relocating back to the UK together start a rental contract before the visa is approved.  I would say almost everyone stays with someone for a few weeks while looking for more permanent accommodation.  We've had a few people use longer term corporate housing where the start dates are 100% flexible depending on when the visa is granted.  That comes at a cost though.

Keep in mind, that *usually* when a couple is applying for a visa, one person is moving to the UK citizens home.  It's probably 1 in 20 couples we see that are relocating to the UK together.  19 out of 20, one person already lives in the UK so they don't have this issue.

The toughest thing we see is when people book weddings in the UK.  Then get stuck waiting on a visa.  And all their family and friends are in the UK for the wedding - but the bride or groom is not - and therefore there IS no wedding.  That really sucks.

You’ve made me take a closer look at corporate housing, to be honest I wasn’t quite sure what you meant by this, with not having rented a house for over 45 years I thought you meant ‘getting a ‘Council House’ somehow..!!

But it would seem this is not the case.  If you’ve anymore details about corporate housing in the UK, links etc, I’d appreciate that.. 

You’ve made me take a closer look at corporate housing, to be honest I wasn’t quite sure what you meant by this, with not having rented a house for over 45 years I thought you meant ‘getting a ‘Council House’ somehow..!!

But it would seem this is not the case.  If you’ve anymore details about corporate housing in the UK, links etc, I’d appreciate that.. 

I think KFDancer meant that people managed to sort out housing through the sponsor’s new U.K. employer (corporate housing).... but as it sounds like you would be meeting the financial requirement using either pension income or cash savings, this would not be an option for you.

Most people in the situation where both partners are in the US would sort out accommodation in one of the following ways:

1. They live with family members or friends in the U.K and use that for their accommodation evidence (providing a letter from the homeowner and the Land Registry document), and then sort out a rental after they have got the visa and moved - the majority of people use this option.

Or

2. The U.K. citizen flies to the U.K. before applying for the visa, rents a house or a flat and gets their name on a tenancy agreement, along with a letter from the landlord giving the US citizen permission to live there after the visa has been granted


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Thanks ksand24,  As my friends in the UK don’t have adequate accommodation to offer us space in the short term,  then it looks like its option 2 for us, which is what I was Grumphing about earlier.

Oh well, this is just part and parcel of what it takes to get there, and so we shall have to fund it as necessary. But this is all certainly an education which I’m grateful for and fortunately I’m enquiring these details now, in good time to save up for the time when we can move.

Many Thanks to all. 

Do a search on “serviced apartments”.  Anyone can hire one, they just come at a premium.   

YUP Very Expensive..!! 

Calculating financial requirements. RECAP

Hello once again. I’ve just popped in to re-read all the posts that I discussed earlier, one of which was posted below.

I did just want someone to clarify if the £18,600 quoted is the NET pension income, after Tax..? Or gross..?

Also am I right in thinking this £18,600 figure can be the sum of both my own and spouses, (applicant’s), pensions combined, and not just mine with me being the sponsor..?

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If you are using EITHER savings OR pension income, it's:

£18,600 per year in pension income
OR
£62,500 in cash savings (£16,000 + (2.5 years x £18,600))

The £18,600 is gross. Not sure about the combined at this stage; it's certainly OK once you're on to FLR(M).

The £18,600 is gross. Not sure about the combined at this stage; it's certainly OK once you're on to FLR(M).

Savings (Cat D), pension (Cat E) and non-employment income (Cat C) can be combined for a spousal visa.

Employment (Cat A/B) and self-employment (Cat F/G) income cannot be combined, unless the applicant already has a visa that allows work in the UK. If they don’t, then only the sponsor’s income can be used.


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Many Thanks Biscuits and ksand24