A few silly FLR(M) questions

I also cannot believe there is a new form for 11/18! I have to do this all other again. should have known - this is the third time this has happened to me in filling out these things, haha! If I didn't laugh, I'd cry!

As you’ve discovered, that form is for people who are exempt from paying the visa fee.

You’ll have to apply online now, because they took down the paper forms a couple of days ago and the only option is to apply online.


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Just keeping all my silly questions in one thread. I know how ridiculous this is getting though with how long it is now, haha!

Since I am now doing the online application, there are some different questions (as pointed out by ksand in another thread). The one that I am unsure about is:

Are there any factors which would make it difficult or impossible for you to integrate and establish a private life in that country (USA)? (After asking if I had to leave, which country would I go to)

I was going to answer yes with the explanation that my husband is British and has an established career and son here in the UK. However, I a be reading into this question too much. Thoughts?

I think that is a good answer.


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I think that is a good answer.


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Thanks Michali! I will keep that then

And another silly question...

I need to make my NHS Surcharge payment and I don't have a printer. Do I have the opportunity to save this somehow to print later or should I be at a computer that has a printer in the first instance?

Thanks again, as always.

You should be able to save to a PDF through most printers.

If yours doesn't have the driver for it,you can usually download one. I would attempt this with something else before you try it with your IHS page.

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You should be able to save to a PDF through most printers.

If yours doesn't have the driver for it,you can usually download one. I would attempt this with something else before you try it with your IHS page.

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i often have that option, but since I have to do online now, I am not sure it matters.


Also - ANOTHER QUESTION -

The part about children seems a bit messed up. I have tried to figure it out. It also asks about my stepson's other parents and now says:

I confirm I will provide:

Evidence of where Mr CHILDS NAMEs other parent lives - such as utility bills.

Birth certificate of both of Mr CHILDS NAME's parents

This time around seems to have more and more surprises. My husband doesn't have his, and I don't know if his ex would supply hers, let alone get it to me in the next 10 days?

If you need to keep a copy of the app, then a PDF is always a good way to do that.

Sorry, I don't know about the rest. We are childless by choice.

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My husband and I don't have any kids together, by choice. These are questions about my stepson and I am convinced this whole section isn't right.

It goes on to say I must give evidence:

Evidence of contact and of the relationship between Mr CHILDS NAME and their other parent, for example, court access documents

Evidence that Mrs *ME* has contact with Mr CHILDS NAME, such as a signed and dated letter from the other parent alongside a copy of an identity document showing their signature detailing when they have contact, if it is through court, a most up to date court order detailing contact, letter from contact centre, etc.

Why would I have a court order to see my stepson? My husband doesn't have any either. They have their own amicable agreement. I am losing hope by the second here!

As far as I know, everyone else who has applied since they brought in the new document requirements for children has only supplied:
- child’s passport
- child’s birth certificate
- letter showing the child’s address


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As far as I know, everyone else who has applied since they brought in the new document requirements for children has only supplied:
- child’s passport
- child’s birth certificate
- letter showing the child’s address


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That would make sense, but it is making me confirm before I can even move on that I will send:
*Utility bills or otherwise of his other parent's.
*Birth certificate of both parents
*Evidence of contact between Child and other parent (?)
*Evidence that I have contact with him, and a letter from the other parent saying such alongside an identifying document.

The choices were also messed up when asked who the child's other parent was, as in it was in code and not loaded properly. I have no idea if I have hit the right thing.

I have spoken to my stepson's mum about this, and she is not happy to say the least. I am unsure how much she is willing to help at this point as she feels her privacy is being invaded now. :-/

That would make sense, but it is making me confirm I will send:
*Utility bills or otherwise of his other parent's.
*Birth certificate of both parents
*Evidence of contact between Child and other parent (?)
*Evidence that I have contact with him, and a letter from the other parent saying such alongside an identifying document.

The choices were also messed up when asked who the child's other parent was, as in it was in code and not loaded properly. I have no idea if I have hit the right thing.

I have spoken to my stepson's mum about this, and she is not happy to say the least. I am unsure how much she is willing to help at this point as she feels her privacy is being invaded now. :-/

You don’t need to provide any of that. The only birth certificate that is needed is the child’s.

Will it let you go back to the choices at all?

Otherwise, can you just confirm you will send it for now? Then you can edit the form in pen once you have printed it out.


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I have to tick the box to confirm I will before it lets me move on. Will it look bad if I edit it out? How do I explain that?

I feel like it has lumped all children with the same questions, regardless of whether they are applying or not, and it has made things very, very confusing.

I wasn't going to send my stepson's passport, but I have supplied the information. If I need it, then I need it.

I have to tick the box to confirm I will before it lets me move on. Will it look bad if I edit it out? How do I explain that?

I feel like it has lumped all children with the same questions, regardless of whether they are applying or not, and it has made things very, very confusing.

I wasn't going to send my stepson's passport, but I have supplied the information. If I need it, then I need it.

You MUST send his passport, it's a required document.

From the paper form (I have highlighted in red the documents you need to provide for him):

Children
You must provide an original full birth certificate i.e. one which shows the parents’ names for all your children. This includes children applying for leave to remain in the UK with you, those applying separately as a child of a person with limited leave as a partner of a settled person in the UK or person who is in the UK with refugee leave or humanitarian protection, as well as children not applying with you and those not subject to immigration control.

If you are applying as the child of a person with limited leave as a partner of a settled person in the UK or person who is in the UK with refugee leave or humanitarian protection and you are under the age of 18 (or children who are over 18 and who have already been granted leave in this category) then you must provide the documents listed below, in addition to those already listed above:
• Evidence of where you normally live.
• Evidence that your parent plays an active role in your upbringing. This evidence should be dated within the last 3 months and can include:
▪▪Official correspondence addressed to the child;
▪▪Doctor’s/hospital letters on official headed paper stating the child’s registered address;
▪▪School/nursery letter(s) on headed paper stating the child’s registered address.

If you have dependent children under the age of 18 in the UK (or children who are over 18 and who have already been granted leave in this category as your dependent), you must provide the documents listed below for each child, in addition to those already listed above, even if they are not included in the application:
• Passports/travel documents to confirm your child’s immigration, settlement or citizenship status.
• Biometric residence permit if your child has been issued with one since entering the UK.

Evidence of where your child/children normally lives and that you and/or any partner play an active role in their upbringing. This evidence should be dated within the last 3 months and can include:
▪▪Official correspondence addressed to the child/children;
▪▪Doctor’s/hospital letters on official headed paper stating the child’s/children’s registered
▪▪School/nursery letter(s) on headed paper stating the child’s/children’s registered address.
▪▪If you have access rights to your child a court document issued by the courts showing your access rights; and/or evidence from your former partner that you have access rights.
▪▪Evidence of your and/or any partner’s parental responsibility for the child/children.
▪▪Evidence of where you and/or any partner lives, as the parent of the child/children
▪▪Evidence of anything else you would like us to consider regarding your child’s life, both in the UK and outside the UK.

So, basically, you need:
- birth certificate
- passport
- one of the documents in the final list (i.e. a letter showing the child's address) (you will have already provided evidence of where you live for the rest of the application).

Thank you. I will get that then.

Do you think I am safe to omit the birth certificates of my husband and stepson's mother then? Is a letter from his mother still appropriate to have to say what type of arrangement they have, as well as a bill in her name? They also want to know all the times he has visited other countries, and we only know the dates for sure of his last trip abroad. Of course, I cannot proceed without entering them.

I can only apologise for all the questions. I was just about prepared to send the paper form only to have to do it online and it has thrown a real spanner in the works with these questions about a child who isn't even applying. I honestly feel sick and certain this isn't going to go well.

Do you think I am safe to omit the birth certificates of my husband and stepson's mother then? Is a letter from his mother still appropriate to have to say what type of arrangement they have, as well as a bill in her name?

Yes, do not include ANY birth certificates except for your stepson’s. I have never heard of anyone being required to prove the parents’ birth certificates before.

You do not need a letter from the mother either, or a bill in her name.

Literally all you need is his passport, birth certificate and the letter with his address on. Nothing more.

They also want to know all the times he has visited other countries, and we only know the dates for sure of his last trip abroad. Of course, I cannot proceed without entering them.

Can you just estimate the dates? Ultimately it’s not really going to matter since he is British and is not applying for a visa.


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