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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2018, 11:51:29 AM »
Exactly, but with prescriptions on the NHS you can't stockpile on your own if it's something you take daily. It will become life threatening for many if it's not solved quickly after brexit and given the efforts to privatise the NHS and cut funding to the disabled I do not trust the government at all.

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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2018, 11:59:44 AM »
Yeah, you may have to go off the NHS for the prescriptions, to stockpile. It'll be pricey, but better than running out.


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2018, 12:07:14 PM »
Yeah, you may have to go off the NHS for the prescriptions, to stockpile. It'll be pricey, but better than running out.
You would need both a private script and pharmacy to do that, considering that no insurance here covers pre existing conditions. ££££ for appointments and meds. And once the shortages start even private pharmacies will have them too.

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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2018, 12:15:23 PM »
Exactly. Creativity ($$) is required, unfortunately. (I think I'd also investigate travel as an option. Similar to running to Tecate or Tijuana for medications in the States.)  It can be done, but it would cost out the whazoo.  And you could only get a reasonable stockpile set back, so if both sources dried up you'd be in the same boat. But you'd have had a little bit of a time cushion, at least. All of which assumes you could afford it.

Which, if the average income of a working person in the UK is 25K a year, not many will be able to manage.  Then again, I see/hear people talking about taking vacations to warm places, or Europe, all the time. So my thought is that if they can afford that, they can afford to out-source their medication needs. It's  the folks who don't get paid well enough (or are on small fixed incomes) that are going to suffer the most.
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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2018, 02:41:54 PM »
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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2018, 03:01:57 PM »
Exactly. Creativity ($$) is required, unfortunately. (I think I'd also investigate travel as an option. Similar to running to Tecate or Tijuana for medications in the States.)  It can be done, but it would cost out the whazoo.  And you could only get a reasonable stockpile set back, so if both sources dried up you'd be in the same boat. But you'd have had a little bit of a time cushion, at least. All of which assumes you could afford it.

Which, if the average income of a working person in the UK is 25K a year, not many will be able to manage.  Then again, I see/hear people talking about taking vacations to warm places, or Europe, all the time. So my thought is that if they can afford that, they can afford to out-source their medication needs. It's  the folks who don't get paid well enough (or are on small fixed incomes) that are going to suffer the most.
Trips to Europe are surprisingly cheap, especially Eastern Europe. I wouldn't use a holiday as a gauge of how well off someone is. But things like this always hurt the lowest rung on the economic ladder the most. This government has proven time and again how little they care about those at the bottom, so I don't trust that they will make this any easier on us! (And while I can't afford private care which is currently causing me issues - my condition thats flaring doesn't have a lot of treatment options so apparently seeing the doctors who specialise in it isn't worth it to the NHS until my stomach & intestines fully fail, we can afford to keep eating/juicing/blending even if costs rise.)

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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2018, 11:39:02 PM »
Hi Texas2UK,

I'd like to ask you a few questions and get your response please;

1. Do you currently, or have done in the past owned your own company?
2. If you have, was your line of business in the Importation of products/goods from the EU and outside of the EU?
3. If you have and not the above what sector of business was it ?
4. If you have, did you employ staff? if so, how many?
5. If you have and your business sector was tangible 'goods' did you ever go to the worlds largest Trade Fair(s)?
5. If you haven't owned your own business, what's your line of expertise? within the Financial/Wealth/Business sector?
6. If you haven't owned your own business and not in the above sectors, what's your interest/specialty to formulate your responses here?

Cheers, DtM! West London & Slough UK!


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2018, 06:08:36 AM »
Denis has entered the arena. Just got real....

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Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2018, 08:12:34 AM »
In my experience, Mr Texas is big on sweeping generalisations ("That will never happen") that sound really authoritative and make you think "That's that then, must be common knowledge..." Once you try to nail him down on the specifics, things get a bit quiet.

Still, I always welcome his posts.  I'm especially interested to hear how he feels about Trump's shambolic trip to the European remembrance day ceremonies, and his blatant demonstration of contempt for veterans.  Can't be bothered to visit Arlington on Veteran's Day?  And they argued that Obama hated the military?
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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2018, 09:25:30 AM »
Now kiddies....  ;) ::)


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2018, 09:42:14 AM »
I think that if the UK crashes out without a trade deal there will be shortages, in the mid-range term. Local supplies will be used up, but the idiocy inherent in the bureaucracy will make importing replacements boggy and slow.  We have stockpiled what medications we can, simply due to lack of faith in the ability of the machine, which creaks by now on a skeleton staff, to process the paperwork.

When you need medications on an ongoing daily basis, you cannot wait to see how well they'll sort it out.
It’s possible that the “idiocy inherent in the bureaucracy” could make a mess of supply, but there’s absolutely no reason that has to be the case. They mostly just have to get out of the way.

I do get that it’s scary to have that stuff out there in the unknown and to have to depend on a government you don’t really trust to behave competently in time of need. But that also doesn’t mean the country can’t get through it or that it shouldn’t.

Obviously a serious deal would have been preferable but that time was wasted.


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2018, 10:24:09 AM »
Hi Texas2UK,

I'd like to ask you a few questions and get your response please;

1. Do you currently, or have done in the past owned your own company?
2. If you have, was your line of business in the Importation of products/goods from the EU and outside of the EU?
3. If you have and not the above what sector of business was it ?
4. If you have, did you employ staff? if so, how many?
5. If you have and your business sector was tangible 'goods' did you ever go to the worlds largest Trade Fair(s)?
5. If you haven't owned your own business, what's your line of expertise? within the Financial/Wealth/Business sector?
6. If you haven't owned your own business and not in the above sectors, what's your interest/specialty to formulate your responses here?

Cheers, DtM! West London & Slough UK!
Yes. I’m a founding partner & GC of a mid-size multinational.

Yes, all over the world including the EU.

We would describe ourselves as a multinational strategic services company. It is more specialized services focused, but we absolutely are intermediaries on commodities and their movement. If you imagine KBR plus Garda/Aegis, but smaller, that’s about the situation. Commercial and govt work.

All over the world: employee levels vary by the nature of our contract mix at any given point. A couple hundred steadily. Twice over that we support with less steady work. Lots more through subcontractors. Those numbers can easily jump by 100 on a single award, or drop that much on completion of a project.

Finance at LSE, economics & law in the US. I’ve worked in finance directly and from the law side. I’ve got a level of experience working in economics within government. I don’t claim to be the world’s foremost expert at anything, but I can manage better on these topics than a random sampling people on the tube.

I’ve been very lucky to see a small investment I made with a friend balloon into something more substantial including a job for me and ability to work from what city I want. It’s still all fleeting as contracts run for a period and have to churn to keep the machine working. So far so good though.

Is that everything you wanted to know? I was an army officer in there as well and spent a decade in real estate development. Also my favorite color is blue, I like a lot of Belgian-style beers, and my favorite flavor of crisps is posh prawn cocktail.


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2018, 10:30:47 AM »
In my experience, Mr Texas is big on sweeping generalisations ("That will never happen") that sound really authoritative and make you think "That's that then, must be common knowledge..." Once you try to nail him down on the specifics, things get a bit quiet.

Still, I always welcome his posts.  I'm especially interested to hear how he feels about Trump's shambolic trip to the European remembrance day ceremonies, and his blatant demonstration of contempt for veterans.  Can't be bothered to visit Arlington on Veteran's Day?  And they argued that Obama hated the military?
I am rather busy with other things. I do really enjoy talking with this unique and interesting group though.

It is somewhat annoying when we’re here having a serious and I hope mutually respectful conversation about some other topic and you want to drag it off on some completely unrelated thing about Trump. Especially as I believe you know I’m not particularly a fan of his. As a veteran, I don’t particularly care about any of the stuff you mention and most others don’t either. That theater is not for our benefit, it’s for yours.


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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #28 on: November 15, 2018, 10:48:36 AM »
One of the Irish ambassadors said ages ago that the Irish border debate was an idea from France to stop Brexit.


It's going to get interesting today and might see enough letters going in to the powerful 1922 Committee, to trigger a vote of no confidence in May. May doesnh't seem to have any support at all and refused to listen to her Ministers on Brexit: the same mistake as she made with the last General Election when she wrote the manifesto herself with two advisors, that she later sacked.

This was interesting a couple of weeks ago, but was hidden on the business page and with another title that didn't show this fact-:

"Eurozone growth slowed to 0.2%, from 0.4% in the previous quarter."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46028714

When you think of the trillions of Euros  the Eurozone have pumped in to support their currency with quantative easing...

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Re: Sooo, they have a tentative Brexit agreement?
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2018, 10:53:11 AM »
One of the Irish ambassadors said ages ago that the Irish border debate was an idea from France to stop Brexit.


It's going to get interesting today and might see enough letters going in to the powerful 1922 Committee, to trigger a vote of no confidence in May.
That’s the reporting from a wide swath of media.

I still think no one actually wants the job until after this part of the process is done. They want May there to fall on the sword so one of them can then ride in as the savior. We’ll see. I could be wrong. I’m sure there’s a point at which they’re just so fed up with her inability to even do that right that they’d take her out. We shall see.


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