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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2019, 03:39:19 PM »
Ugh it's still super far away!! March 8. I'm effectively on bed rest because I can't walk due to pgp! I had to finish work after Christmas and I'm pretty isolated. Hopefully it will resolve once she's born! I've been pretty unlucky so far... but that's kinda my life story at the moment!!!
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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2019, 03:52:59 PM »
We have 2 coat closets off the entrance hall in our house, one we use for coats the other for stuff like vacuum cleaner, shopping bags, brush and pan etc. This closet also has room for shoes including a low shelf but we bought a shoe cabinet from IKEA which stores them out of sight but make them much more accessible than on the floor or shelf of our under-the-stairs closet.

https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/small-storage-organisers/shoe-cabinets/hemnes-shoe-cabinet-with-2-compartments-grey-art-60403895/

The houses we visit most are our son, sister and that of good friends, all within a short walk of where we live. Not thought of it before this thread but only our friends have a coat closet in the entrance hall of the front door. Our son has a nice roomy entrance porch which has coat hangers and a shoe rack. His closet under the stairs is off his main room and is where he keeps his vacuum cleaner cleaner and stuff.  My sister's house has no coat closet or entrance porch but does have a cupboard under the stairs which is where I assume she stores her vacuum cleaner and stuff as they are not in view anywhere.

We have a utilities closet (literally, the electric and gas meter are in there) right by our front door, that could easily become a small coat closet. The vacuum and brooms live in there, with some boxes.  We also have a linen closet near the bathroom and another storage closet at the far end of our hallway, with shelves.  Fortunately, the hallway near the front door was wide enough to put an Ikea wardrobe, with mirror in there. All our coats fit in very nicely. (And the Daughter has a LOT of coats.)
https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/products/wardrobes/free-standing-wardrobes/songesand-wardrobe-white-art-90347351/  We got it for about a third less than it's going for now, because we got a gray one that was on sale. The Daughter put it together within an hour.


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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2019, 08:48:40 AM »
Ugh it's still super far away!! March 8. I'm effectively on bed rest because I can't walk due to pgp! I had to finish work after Christmas and I'm pretty isolated. Hopefully it will resolve once she's born! I've been pretty unlucky so far... but that's kinda my life story at the moment!!!

They say you'll either have a bad pregnancy, bad labor, or a baby that doesn't sleep.  Hopefully your labor and baby will be easy peasy by comparison.  ;D


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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2019, 11:25:25 AM »
They say you'll either have a bad pregnancy, bad labor, or a baby that doesn't sleep.  Hopefully your labor and baby will be easy peasy by comparison.  ;D

Knowing my luck?? I'm bound to have all three. I've heard pgp can sometimes complicate things (can't be in certain positions, danger of long term damage if I have an epidural...). And terrible teenage years. And she'll grow up to be the next Hitler or something... I honestly thought it was going to be straightforward after the hell of infertility for two and a half years... but hey, this too shall pass...



I thought of one thing I really am NOT missing about where I am from - the evacuation orders!! My parents have been ordered to evacuate (once again) because of risk of mudslides... let's hope it's (another) false alarm!! And the absolute obsession with how much money other people have. And image...

Am I in the right place living in the UK? Dunno - it's home!
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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2019, 04:39:37 AM »
Not sure if anyone said this already ( didn’t read all the responses yet) but I think it’s a good safety net to have US citizenship before you leave.  Just in case you want to come back or the children somewhere in their life wants to return


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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2019, 02:59:06 PM »
Following this thread because we are kind of in the same boat, sort of.

Really wanted to move back this year, but a lot to be nervous about.

We'd be leaving the all-American life I know we'd miss -- classic New England four seasons, two cars, storage space, big grassy yard surrounded by big trees, privacy from neighbors, safety & good schools. We even have a real two story barn as our double garage. And our house wasn't even expensive. In the UK, we'd have to be multimillionaires for this life.

With Brexit and the UK immigration system forcing us to give up EVERYTHING just to get there, with no rewards when we get there (credit back to zero and hard to find work, lower wages), there is a very real risk that this right now is the "good old day" we'd always miss.

But it's hard to give up on a dream. I know for a fact I'd regret never living in the UK when I had the chance. And my kids are so young, so this is the time to move (before they get too established with friendships). Before we realized how serious Brexit was, we were both 100% certain this was our year to make the move. We miss people over there constantly. I am just very sad lately.
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Re: Should we stay or go, fear of moving back to the UK!
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2019, 06:18:51 PM »
Hi,

Some excellent responses and perspectives here which is exactly what I'd expect from the great members here!

Everyone and their families and their priorities are different but having said that, the 'fundamentals' are pretty much consistent.

Family life, kids, education, job/business stability and living life are always the staple concerns for pretty much everyone on this forum thinking of moving here. It all depends on what you'd like, what's realistic when you analyse everything and what you want to aim for for everyone in your family.

When politically, things were better in the UK, I'd mention aspects above and 'overall' I'd say to stay in the USA or move to another country if possible. Main reasons being for most immigrants coming here, the cost of living, salary expectations etc would mean a 'reduction' in standard of living / quality of life as a direct comparison to their situation in the USA. Of course, there's variances to this but 'overall' is what I mean.

Politically, the UK is in a precarious place and things aren't looking so great anymore longer term. The absolute mess that is Brexit, the mood and negativity from a large swathe of the UK population as regards to immigrants means it's a significantly worse looking country to move to. On balance, there is of course many areas ,places and institutions that are fantastic and world class and only you will know if your finances/disposable income can allow you to access them in the way you'd want for yourselves and your kids.

So in short, if those finances do allow you to perhaps send your kids to private school, get you a 4/5 bedroom spacious home in a middle upper to upper level area, get you the things in life you'd want for being comfortable and able to enjoy things the way you want, then absolutely, consider coming back and putting down permanent roots in spite of the anticipated reduction in the UK's economy and standings over the next few years. If not, or your careers and experiences for jobs/business etc look to be potentially more threatened, I'd suggest staying put or looking to see if other countries might/could be better suited.

To put into context (I've often mentioned my extended family and their careers) about 10 months or so ago, a relative from India came over to research on if he should bring himself and his wife and their 2 kids over. He's a specialist facial reconstruction surgeon and his wife is a Dentist. He spoke to his friends who are already here and also associates and acquaintances of theirs as well as myself and our family already here. Just before flying back, he asked me if £8-10,000 a month for him would be a good salary. Once his wife was over and working, another £6-7000 per month as well (private practice/companies). At that level of income, they'd be in the top 5% of earners in the country and would be able to live very comfortably indeed. A few weeks later, he mentioned he'd completely discounted the UK and one of the main reasons was that he didn't fancy coming here, having to perhaps work in the NHS to get UK medical experience and be subjected to racial abuse from patients that a good number of his friends and colleagues had told him had happened to them and really upset them. Quite a number have or were making plans to leave the UK once their contracts were over etc. So, he's now looking to Australia/NZ, Singapore etc and move in due course.

Again on balance, I know quite a number of people who have moved here recently and love it and wish to stay longer term, but with the caveat that if things do deteriorate with the after effects of Brexit, they'll quickly move and leave the UK for elsewhere.

Like KF Dancer mentions, if you can, see how Brexit unfolds over the next few years and in the meantime do your due diligence on how to move over given the goalposts for qualifying to move over might change. I think the UK government will make it easier for specialist skilled workers to come here, but I think those medical, engineering, construction, scientific etc people abroad who previously might've wanted to come here are now thinking to move elsewhere, meaning Brexiters will soon get a very rude wake up call.

Good luck in all your forthcoming research and if/when you do decide to come here :)

Cheers, DtM! West London & Slough UK!


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