MEPs pen letter to the British public asking them to reconsider.

There is a great deal of goodwill on the Continent.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-meps-european-parliament-final-say-peoples-vote-second-referendum-a8723066.html?utm_source=reddit.com

It will have an effect on all of Europe if a no deal happens and ports are overloaded and backed up. No one wants to see that! Here's hoping Labour is a strong enough party to actually bring about a second referendum, since I don't think they will win the no confidence vote.

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It will have an effect on all of Europe if a no deal happens and ports are overloaded and backed up. No one wants to see that!

  We see it all the time and have done for years with Calais. Never heard of Operation Stack? And the warnings to take food and water? Google Operation Stack and have a look at the images.

As I have already put (with links), on a Brexit, the UK don't intend to use the French ports and the EU also want to avoid the French ports then too.

Here's hoping Labour is a strong enough party to actually bring about a second referendum, since I don't think they will win the no confidence vote.

Corbyn said he wants to deliver Brexit and said it again in Parliament last week. Corbyn is a Brexiteer and May is a remainer.

Corbyn said he wants to deliver Brexit and said it again in Parliament last week. Corbyn is a Brexiteer and May is a remainer.

Which is just really twisted. 

Which is just really twisted. 

It is.   But as many of those who voted to leave the EU were Labour voters and the Labour heartlands, this helped Corbyn in the last GE. It was reported before that Merkle had said that May had told her she would keep the UK in the EU.

Mind you, Merkle is being pushed out by her citizens and will soon be gone and her country is in a technical recession, with France looking like it will follow. And then there is Italy... https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-just-went-into-a-recession-2019-1?r=US&IR=T    Thats 1,2,3 of the Euro countries economies.
And just part of the finanacial loss to the EU on a Brexit http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/brexit-to-cost-european-union-billions-a-1111724.html
And the cost of aid to the EU- the first of the Euro countries to ask for aid if there is no trade deal with the UK.
https://iegpolicy.agribusinessintelligence.informa.com/PL218813/Ireland-seeks-EU-emergency-aid-to-cope-with-Brexit-fallout

I have to wonder about Ireland, though. They are having a heck of a building boom in Dublin, accommodating the influx of companies leaving the UK. Apparently there's also quite a bit of hiring going on over there now, too.

I have to wonder about Ireland, though. They are having a heck of a building boom in Dublin, accommodating the influx of companies leaving the UK. Apparently there's also quite a bit of hiring going on over there now, too.

It's already been in the Irish press. Here is one of them-

 Emergency EU aid to be sought for Brexit fallout

January 3 2019 2:30 AM

The Government will seek hundreds of millions of euro in special aid from Brussels if the UK crashes out of the EU without a deal.

Dublin has already alerted the EU Commission that it will be lobbying for emergency aid to cope with the fallout to Irish trade, particularly for the beef, dairy and fishing sectors.

With Westminster deadlocked, fears are growing that Britain will exit the EU in just 12 weeks’ time without a deal.

However, it also comes at a time when Ireland is under increasing pressure from key EU member states, such as France and Germany, to increase taxes on multinational high-tech companies in Ireland.
https://www.independent.ie/business/brexit/emergency-eu-aid-to-be-sought-for-brexit-fallout-37676966.html

Re that last paragraph; France and Germany have been after the Republic of Ireland for years as they want to end that low corporation tax as it is taking money from their countries, but the Republic relied on the UK to block these. As soon as the the UK voted to leave, France started on about the Republic and their low corporation tax again and reading that above, it is still going on. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-france-tax-harmonisation/germany-france-agree-on-harmonization-of-corporate-tax-systems-idUSKBN1JG1RB

The Republic have already said that if the EU end that and stop theitr citizens from still moving to the UK ( a financial help to the Republic) then they would have to think about leaving the EU.

I put that article before which said the Republic would have to think about applying to rejoin the Commonwealth again to be closer to the UK if there is a Brexit.

From the first link-
“You’re looking at hundreds of millions here. Between the beef industry and the fishing industry we’re talking mega-money,” he said.

The Rebublic get a large majority of the value from their fishing, by fishing in British waters. Beef and fishing is big money for a small country like the Republic.

Bad all around.

Definite pressure to call it off or at least have a people's vote.

If you see a cliff ahead, there is no harm in turning around.

Bad all around.

As The Guardian seems to be one of your favourite papers, I'm surprised you missed this recent article
It's not Brexit Britain most likely to have a recession. It's Germany
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jan/08/its-not-brexit-britain-most-likely-to-suffer-recession-its-germany

If you had read the quality papers, for at least a year now they have been putting up all the figures that show how some Euro countries are heading into a recession and they seem to be the countries that are protectionist, e.g. Germany, and most of the southern EU farming countries including France. Whereas the northern countries who have moved away from trading within the EU only, are doing better, even though Brussels puts massive tariffs on to try to make them buy from within the EU instead. The UK is one of the countries that have moved away from trading with the EU over the last decade because the world share of the EU trading block is constantly falling  and over 50% of UK trade in goods is now with non-EU countries.

The public always pay for protectionism as this means higher prices.
e.g. from listening to the Lords the other month, it seems that during the Spanish orange harvest, the EU can raise taxes on the oranges coming in from outside the EU, even though the consumers in the EU will get cheaper oranges if these were allowed in tariff free. Plus of course, the taxpayers in these EU countries where they could import oranges from outside the EU cheaper, also have to give handouts to the Spanish farmers too, all through the year.

If too much food is being grown in the EU that would drop prices for the public; the EU farmers are paid to not grow that crop/s. That's always been an arguement with the British farmers as they would rather grow than have their fields lying empty.  "Set aside" fields are a common sight around the UK now.

We used to see a lot of pigs out grazing in the fields in the UK too, but now it is a rare sight and Denmark exports pork to the UK. Denmark is another country that relies on exporting to the UK and on revenue from fishing in British waters. The EU country with the biggest deficit (exports more goods to the UK than they buy from the UK) is Germany, and they are in a recession before any Brexit. The fish canning factory in Merkle's own constituency that provides so many jobs, also rely on German fisherman fishing in British waters.
https://www.handelsblatt.com/today/companies/cod-wars-german-fishermen-headed-for-choppy-waters-as-brexit-looms/23583102.html?ticket=ST-135112-SSAXPregcfBpdXETBFzf-ap2

Interesting, as I haven't seen any papers here that are particularly unbiased. Some are quite obviously touting the line the owners of the paper want published, some are more subtle about it.

I pretty much get my news from a handful of online sources. Deutsche Welle, RTE, BBC, STV, CNN,Al Jazeera, EuroNews, ABC (US), ABC (Australia), NBC, CBS, etc., and then look for the "red threads" that appear in the sources. If the same info appears on all the sites, it's likely to be more-or-less accurate.  I will also compare the domestic sites to the "international" sites as well.

Otherwise, sources like BBC have quite a bit of intereference in what gets aired, how the information is presented, etc., by the government at times. It's always interesting to see the language they use to present a bit of information - subtle use of language that biases a story one way or the other.

Interesting, as I haven't seen any papers here that are particularly unbiased. Some are quite obviously touting the line the owners of the paper want published, some are more subtle about it.
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Otherwise, sources like BBC have quite a bit of intereference in what gets aired, how the information is presented, etc., by the government at times.

A lot of this can be found on the BBC business section, but not often as a headline in the main news. Even in their business section it is not easy to find because the article title seems to be about something else, but then in the article somewhere lower down, they put the information. A few years ago the papers exposed that the BBC takes money from the EU.

The Financial Times are usually pretty good, but as with all quality papers, you need to pay.

A good friend of mine is from a farming family who has 3 farms and I know a few other farmers,  so I know a lot about money they are paid not to grow . I listened to somebody from Brussels on the radio last week say that the UK will have a sugar shortage if they leave the UK. My first thought was good, as that stuff is bad for us, but my second was that the other year I was told that the EU were paying farmers not to grow sugarbeet.

Plus sugar cane can easily be imported from outside the EU tariff free on a clean Brexit, as the EU couldn't block it. They will block it if the UK accept their present trade deal offer.

Some people only read things that back up their own veiews. You should lay off the Guido Fawkes and spektator.

Some people only read things that back up their own veiews.

That's exactly what The Guardian is, which is why they so were late with the news about Germany (artIcle linked above) as virtually everybody else already knew this.

The problem for The Guardian seems to be that when you write articles to excite the something for nothing brigade, these people don't want to pay to read that article either! Read about their finances https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian
"The Guardian has been consistently loss-making."
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"the paper made more losses than predicted, and in January 2016 the publishers announced, that The Guardian will cut 20 per cent of staff and costs within the next three years..."

Your digital spy says that Britain is really good at everything and Europe is really had at everything.

Just chanting "it's coming home" doesn't mean anything.

Your digital spy says that Britain is really good at everything and Europe is really had at everything.

Just chanting "it's coming home" doesn't mean anything.

I haven't been on there for ages, not since Momentum (the new, extreme left wing part of the Labour party) arrived, posting day and night.  It ended up with too many arguements between the true Labour party voters and Momentum saying they would get rid of their Labour MPs and put one in of their own instead. Financial Times "Momentum calls for mandatory reselection of UK Labour party MPs" https://www.ft.com/content/7d20afdc-af82-11e8-8d14-6f049d06439c

It sounds like Momentum are still on there from what you have said.

The other month I was listening to some Labour MPs talking about how it it will take years to get their party back from Momentum. There is talk about the true Labour party breaking away and forming a new party, as a quicker way to rid themselves of Momentum.