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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2019, 10:42:42 AM »
Thanks for the feedback and good advice as always. We will enclose a copy of the original letter... fingers crossed!


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2019, 04:57:16 PM »
So after receiving no reply (to letters dated March 6 and then May 7, making our case for an over-12-months waiver, and attaching the ToR application and all enclosures), we filed a formal complaint on June 7. We got a reply from the Complaints people in the mail (and confirmation in a phone call) directing us back to the regular ToR application channel.  They basically said a letter asking for a waiver should be enclosed with an initial ToR application and not sent as a package to the Enquiry team (which is what we did.) The Complaints people could not explain why the Enquiry people did not simply forward to the right person or at least reply to us...
So it looks like you should not send waiver requests to Enquiry at this site: https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/hm-revenue-customs/contact/customs-international-trade-and-excise-enquiries
But do send them via the regular ToR channel and include your request for a waiver in the enclosures.
The HMRC complaints people have offered to liaise with the ToR people to expedite our request. Still, no guarantee that we will get a waiver or a ToR... Is this confusing enough???  ???


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2019, 05:12:18 PM »
Thank you for the update! It really sucks that they didn't  even bother to reply or use some common sense and pass on your enquiry but glad you're on the right track now. Hope you get a positive outcome SOON!  :)
March 28th 2013-Moved to UK, husband on spouse visa.Oct 20th 2015-Applied by mail for FLR(M).Feb 1st 2016 FLR(M).March 7th 2018 ILR. YAY! March 21st NCS&JCAP appointment.


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2019, 05:47:03 PM »
Thanks, Larabee!
Now that I am about to submit the scan of the ToR form plus all attachments via email - do I recall reading that their capacity to receive email is limited and files larger than a certain size should be placed in a ZIP file? Is that right?
What information does one put in the covering email?
Thanks!
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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2019, 08:42:49 AM »
Happy to report my ToR application (which I first submitted last March!) was approved in one day, after being fast-tracked with the help of the Complaints department. They granted a waiver of the 12-month requirement and approved the ToR. Hurrah!
So if anyone out there needs to apply for a waiver of the requirement to move your things within 12 months of arriving in the UK... it seems the best route is to write a letter explaining your situation and include it as one of the enclosures with your ToR application. Then send it to the regular ToR application email or postal address.


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2019, 12:45:24 PM »
Happy to report my ToR application (which I first submitted last March!) was approved in one day, after being fast-tracked with the help of the Complaints department. They granted a waiver of the 12-month requirement and approved the ToR. Hurrah!
So if anyone out there needs to apply for a waiver of the requirement to move your things within 12 months of arriving in the UK... it seems the best route is to write a letter explaining your situation and include it as one of the enclosures with your ToR application. Then send it to the regular ToR application email or postal address.

That is fantastic news!   :D. So sorry you got the runaround initially but your perseverance paid off!
March 28th 2013-Moved to UK, husband on spouse visa.Oct 20th 2015-Applied by mail for FLR(M).Feb 1st 2016 FLR(M).March 7th 2018 ILR. YAY! March 21st NCS&JCAP appointment.


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2019, 08:57:00 PM »
Yay! So glad you were granted the TOR finally :)

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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2019, 09:32:41 AM »
Congratulations, perseverance wins out!!

Thanks for coming back and letting us know, it’s good information for others who may find themselves in a similar situation.
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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2019, 11:17:47 AM »
I’m having a shipping issues. I applied for a TOR and was denied. I actually spoke to the person who took on my application and explained. They said they’d do what they can to approve and took all of my “exceptional circumstances” details. It was denied...it was just too long (3 years since my move) so there was no way it could be accepted.

She advised we label everything with the shipping company personal effects and itemise it all as used “garage sale” value.

Is there any other options or do I have to just take my chances?


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2019, 11:45:31 AM »
I’m having a shipping issues. I applied for a TOR and was denied. I actually spoke to the person who took on my application and explained. They said they’d do what they can to approve and took all of my “exceptional circumstances” details. It was denied...it was just too long (3 years since my move) so there was no way it could be accepted.

She advised we label everything with the shipping company personal effects and itemise it all as used “garage sale” value.

Is there any other options or do I have to just take my chances?


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Thanks for sharing, Karl. That's really unfortunate but it's good to have this information on the forum so others won't assume that the leeway past the usual 12 months is endless.

March 28th 2013-Moved to UK, husband on spouse visa.Oct 20th 2015-Applied by mail for FLR(M).Feb 1st 2016 FLR(M).March 7th 2018 ILR. YAY! March 21st NCS&JCAP appointment.


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2019, 11:50:52 AM »
Is there any other options or do I have to just take my chances?

Bring a little bit back in your suitcase with each visit.

In another 2.5 years, get citizenship here.  Then move back to the US.  Then after some time, move to the UK again, this time getting ToR immediately.
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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Re: Can I do ToR about 20 months after I arrived in the UK?
« Reply #26 on: September 23, 2019, 07:33:24 PM »
It wasn’t so bad in the end. The total for customs/fees was £176. It’s in the country now at least. Our smart clutter free house is about to look like we hoard. I used Upakweship for the entire thing.
LTE received: 21 October 2016
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