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Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« on: May 22, 2019, 02:23:30 PM »
Good afternoon,

I plan to apply today and wanted a final document check before going online please.
I am including the documents' dates as the 28 day rule may come in to play.  My visa expires May 26th.

Required documents:

  • Land Registry - dated today and printed from pdf they emailed to us. (3 pages)
  • District Council Tax - dated March 2019 (1 page front & back)
  • Mortgage statement - dated Oct 2017-Sept 2018 (2 pages front & back)
  • P60 - dated to Apr 2019 - (1 page)
  • Payslips - Oct 2018, Jan 2019, Feb 2019, Mar 2019, Apr 2019 (mailed April 30th)  (Duplicates of November and December 2018 are printed and will get signed at work tomorrow)
  • Bank Statements - 3rd Nov 2018, 3rd Dec 2018, 3rd Jan 2019, 4th Feb 2019, 4th Mar 2019, 3rd Apr 2019, 3rd May 2019
  • Life in the UK test pass certificate

Mail

Applicant:
  • Credit Card payment receipt (via mail with address) dated Mar 2018 (1 page front & back)
  • Local Surgery Appt Request - Dated Sept 2017 (1 page)
  • Hospital Screening appt - Dated Feb 2018 (1 page)
  • Power Company statement - Dated Aug 2018 (3 pages front & back) *both our names are on it
  • Water statement - Dated Apr 2019 (2 pages front & back) *both our names are on it

Spouse:
  • Hospital screening appt - Dated Feb 2017 (1 page)
  • Pension 1 - Dated Oct 2017 (2 pages front & back) *we are using 2 separate pension statements from different companies
  • Local Surgery Appt request - Feb 2018 (1 page)
  • Pension 2 - Dated Aug 2018 (4 pages front & back)
  • Credit Card statement - Dated Feb 2019 (2 pages front & back) *different from my account above

Additionally we have our annual renewal for our National Trust membership in both of our names dated: Mar 2019 and we have 2 photos of us.

Please note that the two utilities used for my letters also have his name on the address.  Mine is surname with full name with middle name on one & Mrs first initial and full surname on the second one.  We used the one with the given name initial last time and it wasn't a problem.

Thanks in advance for your time and expertise!
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2019, 03:00:18 PM »
You won't need the photos of yourselves. You don't need that type of evidence for your ILR so no need to include it (it'll just be extra stuff that will just bog down the important bits).

Working at the moment but what I would question after a quick look is whether or not you can get a more recent mortgage statement? I requested one specifically in the post so it would be dated withing 28 days of my application as many of the other docs need to be BUT I did this because I couldn't find my most recent one from the previous year.

Not sure if one of the experts can clarify if you need to get a newer mortgage statement or if it's okay given these do tend to come out annually (and, therefore, UKVI won't expect something more recent).

RE the utilities, if you have those in both your names, you don't need to have a corresponding piece of mail for him. That will count as one for both of you.
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2019, 03:08:23 PM »
Thank you x0Kiss0fDeath very much for the reply!

Unfortunately we asked for a updated mortgage statement for our last visa (same mortgage company) and they refused.  So it's unlikely.  Also, I have to apply by Sunday. So no time to wait on mail.

We will omit the photos this time and take another look at the mail as well.  Thanks!
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2019, 03:15:28 PM »
Thank you x0Kiss0fDeath very much for the reply!

Unfortunately we asked for a updated mortgage statement for our last visa (same mortgage company) and they refused.  So it's unlikely.  Also, I have to apply by Sunday. So no time to wait on mail.

We will omit the photos this time and take another look at the mail as well.  Thanks!

I don't think it'll be a problem RE the mortgage statement as I think it's common for people to only get annual ones but I just thought it best to ask the question in case another expert can advise to be safe :) Like I said, I HAD to so I didn't worry about it for myself so it might not be an issue at all.

yeah so the mail will either be 6 pieces addressed to you BOTH or 6 for each of you. You might have 2 jointly addressed and then 4 x you & 4 x your partner (so would give you "6 items total for you both" - if that makes sense? Hard to phrase without it sounding confusing lol)
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* ILR applied for January 2019 (using priority processing). Approved February 2019.
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2019, 03:18:27 PM »
It makes perfect sense.  Thank you!
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2019, 03:18:59 PM »
Letter from your (your sponsor's) employer?  Marriage certificate?  Those two are vital.

Your correspondence... The council tax statement can count as one of them, and I assume you're both named on it, so that makes it a joint one giving you six each.  However, your dates are not evenly spaced, and you don't show items for the two of you in the same month, or even CLOSE to the same month, in some cases.

This is what I see:

1.  Feb 2017 - S - hospital letter
You need something in your name to go with this.

>< This gap is too long. ><

2.  Sept 2017 - A - local surgery letter
Oct 2017 - S - Pension 1 letter

3.  Feb 2018 - A - hospital appointment letter
Feb 2018 - S - local surgery letter

>< This gap is too short. ><

4.  Mar 2018 - A - cc payment receipt
Your spouse needs something in their name to go with this.

5. Aug 2018 - A & S - power company statement
Aug 2018 - S - Pension 2Since the power company statement is jointly-addressed, there is no use for the pension statement, as this month is already covered.


6.  Feb 2019 - S - CC statement
Apr 2019 - A - water statement
These are two months apart, so not ideal.  But you have your Council Tax statement dated March 2019 which is jointly-addressed, so use tht instead of these.
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2019, 03:22:08 PM »
Quick question regarding payslips and bank statements:  As I understand it, since I am going to apply this evening the clock stops today the 22nd.  So, the most recent payslip (April 30th) and Bank Statement (May 3rd) will be perfectly fine.  Is that correct?
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2019, 03:23:02 PM »
Quick question regarding payslips and bank statements:  As I understand it, since I am going to apply this evening the clock stops today the 22nd.  So, the most recent payslip (April 30th) and Bank Statement (May 3rd) will be perfectly fine.  Is that correct?

That is correct, but you don't have all of your required evidence listed...  Are you sure you're ready?
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2019, 03:26:01 PM »
Do your payslips show the full pay period dates (from: /to: )?  What dates are on the October payslip?  You may need to go back to the September one if you're not including May.
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8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
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Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2019, 03:32:28 PM »
    • Payslips - Oct 2018, Jan 2019, Feb 2019, Mar 2019, Apr 2019 (mailed April 30th)  (Duplicates of November and December 2018 are printed and will get signed at work tomorrow)
    • Bank Statements - 3rd Nov 2018, 3rd Dec 2018, 3rd Jan 2019, 4th Feb 2019, 4th Mar 2019, 3rd Apr 2019, 3rd May 2019

    Do you have a bank statement covering October? I see you listed a payslip for October but not a bank statement. Or does the November bank statement show the October payslip being deposited?[/list]
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    Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
    « Reply #10 on: May 22, 2019, 03:56:53 PM »
    jfkimberly,

    I knew there was something missing!  Thanks so much!  We do have both the marriage certificate and a letter from his employer.  I had not put then in the stack of documents and overlooked them in my first post.


    Regarding Payslips, He is paid monthly so they cover the entire month.

    I listed our mail separately:  the first section is mine and includes a credit card payment receipt in my name with our address dated Mar 2017.  The 2018 was a typo.  ARGH!  I can't type some days.

    We had basically been looking for 1 item for spring and 1 for fall.  We will revisit our stack of unused mail to find something else for one of the 2017 letter for him to close the gap a bit.

    I'll restate it properly below and see if they make more sense.  I'm noting in Red where the gaps are too long.

    ***Revised Mail***

    Mail

    Applicant:

        Credit Card payment receipt (via mail with address) dated 7th Mar 2017 (1 page front & back)
        Local Surgery Appt Request - Dated 11th Sept 2017 (1 page)  ***over 6 months by 4 days???
        Hospital Screening appt - Dated 26th Feb 2018 (1 page) ***over 6 months by 15 days???
        Power Company statement - Dated 2nd Aug 2018 (3 pages front & back) *both our names are on it
        Water statement - Dated 29th Apr 2019 (2 pages front & back) *both our names are on it ***should be replaced as 8 months rather than 6


    Spouse:

        Hospital screening appt - Dated 17th Feb 2017 (1 page)  ***This one needs changing to a later date letter from April or May
        Pension 1 - Dated 25th Oct 2017 (2 pages front & back) *we are using 2 separate pension statements from different companies
        Local Surgery Appt request - 13th Feb 2018 (1 page)
        Pension 2 - Dated 16th Aug 2018 (4 pages front & back) ***should be okay as only off by a few days
        Credit Card statement - Dated 6th Feb 2019 (2 pages front & back) *different from my account above
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    Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
    « Reply #11 on: May 22, 2019, 04:03:04 PM »
    Elee27,

    Yes, each bank statement shows the monthly salary being deposited automatically on the date of the payslip for each month.  So they coincide.

    Currently, we have 7 months including October for each but will pare it down to upload and provide 6 consecutive of each.

    The next bank statement and payslip arrive after the end date of my visa (26th) and well after my application date which will be today, the 22nds.

    Thank you for asking.  We hadn't looked at the bank statements to make sure they coincide.  So we're more confident of them having checked.
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    Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
    « Reply #12 on: May 22, 2019, 04:46:16 PM »
    jfkimberly,

    I knew there was something missing!  Thanks so much!  We do have both the marriage certificate and a letter from his employer.  I had not put then in the stack of documents and overlooked them in my first post.

    Excellent!  The marriage certificate would've been easy to add, but getting an employer letter can sometimes take a few days.  I'm glad you already have it!

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    Regarding Payslips, He is paid monthly so they cover the entire month.

    I understand he's paid monthly, but if his payslips don't explicitly say the start and end of the pay period, the date they will use is whatever appears on the oldest payslip... that will be the date they start counting from for six months.  But I just realized I counted wrong, and you already have seven to get the full six months.  Yay!

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    I listed our mail separately:  the first section is mine and includes a credit card payment receipt in my name with our address dated Mar 2017.  The 2018 was a typo.  ARGH!  I can't type some days.

    We had basically been looking for 1 item for spring and 1 for fall.  We will revisit our stack of unused mail to find something else for one of the 2017 letter for him to close the gap a bit.

    I'll restate it properly below and see if they make more sense.  I'm noting in Red where the gaps are too long.

    ***Revised Mail***

    Mail

    Applicant:

        Credit Card payment receipt (via mail with address) dated 7th Mar 2017 (1 page front & back)
        Local Surgery Appt Request - Dated 11th Sept 2017 (1 page)  ***over 6 months by 4 days???
        Hospital Screening appt - Dated 26th Feb 2018 (1 page) ***over 6 months by 15 days???
        Power Company statement - Dated 2nd Aug 2018 (3 pages front & back) *both our names are on it
        Water statement - Dated 29th Apr 2019 (2 pages front & back) *both our names are on it ***should be replaced as 8 months rather than 6


    Spouse:

        Hospital screening appt - Dated 17th Feb 2017 (1 page)  ***This one needs changing to a later date letter from April or May
        Pension 1 - Dated 25th Oct 2017 (2 pages front & back) *we are using 2 separate pension statements from different companies
        Local Surgery Appt request - 13th Feb 2018 (1 page)
        Pension 2 - Dated 16th Aug 2018 (4 pages front & back) ***should be okay as only off by a few days
        Credit Card statement - Dated 6th Feb 2019 (2 pages front & back) *different from my account above

    I listed it the way I did to more easily see what you have lining up to each other, because for those times where you are not using jointly-addressed correspondence, the individually-addressed items need to be from the same month, or at most, one month out.  You should not have yours from February and his from April, for example.  You might get away with it, but you really want your items to be in the same month so there's no worry.

    You are looking for six items of correspondence for each of you, spread evenly over 2.5 years from the beginning of 2017.  About 5 months apart is what you're looking for.  Six or more months is too far.  One of these spacings would be ideal:
    January 2017
    June 2017
    November 2017
    April 2018
    September 2018
    February 2019
    or  February 2017
    July 2017
    December 2017
    May 2018
    October 2018
    March 2019
    or  March 2017
    August 2017
    January 2018
    June 2018
    November 2018
    April 2019

    Whichever spacing you choose, you want your items to be as close to the target months as possible for both of you, and you want your individual items in the same month.
    9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
    4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
    5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
    8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
    8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
    22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
    14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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    Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
    « Reply #13 on: May 22, 2019, 05:04:02 PM »
    Great, thanks.  I'll have to go through the box of letters again and see what I can pull together.  I hadn't heard that they needed to be from the same month/year for each of us so I wasnt prepared for that.  We're going to run a couple of errands and I'll get back on it in the early evening.  The copy shop closes soon and our scanner isn't big enough to scan the marriage cert.  LOL

    I think we will still be able to do the online application this evening.  As I understand it we won't be uploading our documents tonight.  It will happen when we have made our appointment to have them looked over and submitted along with biometrics.  Correct?
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    Re: Document check (including mail) for ILR application
    « Reply #14 on: May 22, 2019, 05:24:47 PM »
    That's correct, from my understanding.  Tonight you will (hopefully!) submit your application, but you will do your biometrics and submit the evidence over the next few days.  As for your deadline, once you submit and pay for the application tonight, you're in before your expiry, so you'll be good.  :)
    9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
    4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
    5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
    8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
    8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
    22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
    14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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