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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2019, 04:31:38 PM »
Thanks KoD!

Onto the finance section now.

 I've had a rise in the past six months so I assume I declare the lower of the two. The lowest satisfies the £18,600 requirement.

However, do I state the salary with or without child vouchers coming out? These come out before tax @ £273pm
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2019, 04:50:13 PM »
Thanks KoD!

Onto the finance section now.

 I've had a rise in the past six months so I assume I declare the lower of the two. The lowest satisfies the £18,600 requirement.

Depends how it will let you answer the questions. I would declare your current salary as that is what will be stated in your employer letter, but if it asks if you have been earning it for 6 months, say yes - because what it’s really asking is whether you have been earning £18,600 or more for 6 months, which you have.

They will use the lowest payslip from the 6 months to calculate your annual income,

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However, do I state the salary with or without child vouchers coming out? These come out before tax @ £273pm

You state the gross annual salary listed on your payslip (and on your employer letter), before any deductions.


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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2019, 05:06:42 PM »
This is what it says...



So I imagine I say 'not the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement'? However it has been continuous, just two different salaries
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2019, 05:11:08 PM »
This is what it says...



So I imagine I say 'not the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement'?

I didn't have this with mine because I had continuous salary (so I might be wrong), but I would read that and think you should put "not same amount continuously, above the financial requirement".

However it has been continuous, just two different salaries

But it's not...Your employment was continuous. Your salary was not.
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* FLR(M) applied for  May 2016. Biometrics requested June 2016. Approval given July 2016.
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2019, 08:12:22 PM »
True.

So, I get paid on the 21st of each month. Say I submit docs on 28th June, which pay slips do I need? I technically need to cover from 28th December which would mean

1) January 21st
2) February 21st
3) March 21st
4) April 21st
5) May 21st
6) June 21st

The reason I ask is I got my pay rise in January so I wouldn’t need to mess around with two salaries
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2019, 08:40:51 PM »
If your latest payslip is June 21st, your 6 months will be Dec 21st to June 21st and your first payslip must cover December 21st or earlier.

So, you need the following payslips:
Dec 21st
Jan 21st
Feb 21st
Mar 21st
Apr 21st
May 21st
Jun 21st

And you will need bank statements from:
Dec
Jan
Feb
Mar
Apr
May
Jun

In order to not have to provide the January payslip, you would have to wait until after August 21st to apply.


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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2019, 09:02:35 PM »
Dang! That does make sense.

So she got FLR 9th Jan 2017.

What periods do we need mail from? It’s from FLR so is it?

Jan 2017 - May 2017
June 2017 - October 2017
November 2017 - March 2018
April 2018 - August 2018
September 2018 - January 2019
February 2019 - June 2019

Am I anywhere near correct?
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2019, 09:05:57 PM »
Dang! That does make sense.

Ultimately though, it makes no difference if you have to include the Dec and Jan payslips. As long as neither of them is below £1550 before tax, you meet the requirement.

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So she got FLR 9th Jan 2017.

What periods do we need mail from? It’s from FLR so is it?

Jan 2017 - May 2017
June 2017 - October 2017
November 2017 - March 2018
April 2018 - August 2018
September 2018 - January 2019
February 2019 - June 2019

Am I anywhere near correct?

You want one document every 5 months, so rather than picking a range, pick individual months.

So you want one item in each name from:
Jan 2017
June 2017
Nov 2017
Apr 2018
Sept 2018
Feb 2019
(Bonus extra: June 2019)



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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2019, 09:10:30 PM »
Thanks ksand24.

But now I’m starting to get anxious as we don’t have that much mail to choose from to choose month by month
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2019, 09:20:41 PM »
We have a council tax bill from 03/01/2017.

Would that be acceptable as it’s 6 days before her FLR?
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #25 on: June 18, 2019, 09:49:51 PM »
Back to pay.

I selected non-continuous, above £18,600 and it’s then prompting me for 12 months of pay slips.

Does non-continuous mean off-and-on payments rather than continuous pay? Asking for 12 months pay tells me this might be the case
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2019, 12:01:07 AM »
I have a lot of questions so I will summarise
 
1) I don’t have enough mail to specifically spread out every five months. What are my options?
2) The accommodation requirement. We have our tenancy agreement but it’s expired and now we’re just on a sort of rolling lease with our landlord. Do I need additional evidence? It asks for evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation.
3) Reasons to stay in UK. It asks the following ‘Do you have any other reasons for wanting to stay in the UK?(Required)
For example, include any information you wish to be considered about the welfare or best interests of any children you have in the UK. You must demonstrate you have a genuine, subsisting and active parental relationship.’

Finding this one difficult to answer how it’s asking. We have a child so birth certificates, pictures? What else?
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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2019, 07:40:54 AM »
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I selected non-continuous, above £18,600 and it’s then prompting me for 12 months of pay slips.

Does non-continuous mean off-and-on payments rather than continuous pay? Asking for 12 months pay tells me this might be the case

That's somewhat vague. Has your salary for the last 12 months been over the £18,600, and the employer the same? If so, then it might make sense to include a full year (possibly 13 months) of payslips to be sure.

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1) I don’t have enough mail to specifically spread out every five months. What are my options?

Try to get as close as you can to those months. If it is a few days, perhaps even a couple of weeks apart, I would have thought it would be OK.

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2) The accommodation requirement. We have our tenancy agreement but it’s expired and now we’re just on a sort of rolling lease with our landlord. Do I need additional evidence? It asks for evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation.

A letter from the landlord saying you have permission to stay along with the other information sounds like it would be sufficient.

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3) Reasons to stay in UK. It asks the following ‘Do you have any other reasons for wanting to stay in the UK?(Required)
For example, include any information you wish to be considered about the welfare or best interests of any children you have in the UK. You must demonstrate you have a genuine, subsisting and active parental relationship.’

I'm under the impression this is what they would start to consider if you, say, didn't meet the financial requirement, so they can see if they might be able to put you on the 10 year route. If I were in your position I make a statement that you have that relationship with your child (I know this sounds silly!) - but between any correspondence between, say, a school, nursery, pre-school, GP, dentist, and your child (e.g. a letter of registration from the GP), along with birth certificates, and the aforementioned statement, that should cover it quite easily.

You could possibly well leave it blank. For our FLR(M)s we have done so.


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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2019, 08:49:51 AM »
I'm under the impression this is what they would start to consider if you, say, didn't meet the financial requirement, so they can see if they might be able to put you on the 10 year route. If I were in your position I make a statement that you have that relationship with your child (I know this sounds silly!) - but between any correspondence between, say, a school, nursery, pre-school, GP, dentist, and your child (e.g. a letter of registration from the GP), along with birth certificates, and the aforementioned statement, that should cover it quite easily.

You could possibly well leave it blank. For our FLR(M)s we have done so.

As it's labelled required, I don't know if I'd leave it blank.

I just put something along the lines of "While we could return to the US, it would be very lengthy and expensive with no guarantee my husband could get a visa. Either way, we would be separated for a considerable amount of time and we share responsibility (including financial responsibility) of many things including our dog and house. If I were to be rejected, I would need to resign from my job and all financial responsibility would be placed upon my husband until we could be reunited."

I can't remember specifically, but it was similar to the above and just highlighted that my life was here including my dog and other financial responsibilities and it would be a long, expensive, and complicated road for us to be together elsewhere. I think it was unnecessary, but it made me feel better to include pet insurance for my dog to show I did, indeed, have a dog.
My, how time flies....

* Married in the US and applied for first spousal visa August 2013
* Moved to the UK on said visa October 2013
* FLR(M) applied for  May 2016. Biometrics requested June 2016. Approval given July 2016.
* ILR applied for January 2019 (using priority processing). Approved February 2019.
* Citizenship applied for May  2019
* Citizenship approved on July 4th 2019
* Ceremony conducted on August 28th 2019

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Re: ILR - okay where do we start?
« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2019, 10:14:39 AM »
I'll write something like

"While my husband & I could return to the United States this would cause severe hardship to our lives. My husband & I have a strong relationship with our daughter who is currently attending nursery and relies on us both to raise her. If I was to leave the United Kingdom we would be separated and my husband would be forced to quit work to raise our daughter as we rely on both our wages to fund her nursery. In addition, we share financial responsibilities for our house and bills and being separated would cause my husband and daughter to seek unknown accommodation elsewhere.

Furthermore, there is no guarantee my husband could get a visa in the US and would be a lengthy expensive process. As mentioned above, if separated my husband would have to quit work leaving him with no opportunity to raise money for an American visa".

How does that sound?
Feb 2014 - Married
29/04/2014 - Spouse Application Approved
02/05/2014 - Visa Received
09/01/2017 - FLR(M) Granted
22/07/2019 - ILR Granted
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