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FLM(R) document checklist
« on: February 27, 2020, 04:20:08 PM »
Hi

Just need you your help in checking if all below documents are ok before I upload them on Sopra Steria

- My visa application form: As I accidentally included my first spouse visa's reference number on the immigration detail, they actually included my old NHS surcharge reference number, do I have to strike this out and add the new surcharge reference number or should I just include the confirmation email of my new NHS surcharge reference number without striking it?
- My passport copy that is certified by the bank
- My biometric permit copy also certified by the bank
- A signed contract of my employment
- Both mine and my husband's 6 month bank statement (Sep 2019 to Feb 2020)
- All relevant third party consent forms: Question - Part 3 of the consent form is for third party sponsor, as we never have financial support I'm assuming we wouldn't need to sign this form?
- A letter from a friend confirming me and my husband has lived with them during Aug 2018 to April 2019: Question - The letter only said that this friend confirms me and my husband has lived with them during the period at this location and the property is a 2 bedroom flat, I hope that's sufficient enough?
- Evidence of my husband's immigration status: A copy of my husband's british passport certified by the bank
- Both mine and my husband's letter of employment
- Both mine and my husband's P60 for our current employment
- Both mine and my husband's payslip covering a period of 6 months (Sep 2019 to Feb 2020)
- Evidence of monthly housing costs, this includes our annual mortgage statement, council tax bill, thames water bill, and electricity bill
- Address evidence of us living together covering the last 2 years
First rental place
Jul 2017 - Joint Name - Tenancy Agreement
Apr 2018 - Individual name - HM Revenue & Customs
Jul 2018 - Individual name - TV license
Subletting from a friend
Sep 2018 - Individual name - Thames water
Mar 2019 -  Joint Name - Mortgage statement that was mailed to our subletting place
Flat owned by us since May 2019
Joint bank statement that covers a Apr 2019 to Jul 2019
Jul 2019 - Joint Name - Council tax bill
Nov 2019 - Joint Name - British gas bill

Aside from uploading document, here are what to bring to the biometric appointment
- Applicant passport
- Husband passport?
- Application confirmation PDF file
- All the docs that I've submitted online


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2020, 04:43:56 PM »
On your September to February payslips, what is the earliest date shown on the September payslip, and the latest date shown on the February payslip?  For example, do the September ones says "pay period September 1 to September 30, 2019", or something to that effect, or does it just show the payment date?  You might need to include August's payslips to cover six FULL months.  (This means you'll also need bank statements for August, too... what are the dates of the bank statements?)

If you still lived with your friend, you would need more details in your friend's letter (how many people lived there, altogether, etc.).  As you are in your own place now, the letter simply confirming you lived with the friend is fine as it is.

What is your proof of accommodation?  It looks like you now own your flat, so you should have a copy of your Land Registry document showing ownership, and a copy of the most recent mortgage statement.  I'm a bit confused on your accommodation section.

The official correspondence that comes to your and your husband isn't to prove your address... it's to prove that you and your husband lived together (by way of showing that you both received your post at the same place).  It's your relationship evidence, along with your marriage certificate.  The correspondence should be evenly spaced over the 2 years period, so one item each, or one jointly-addressed item, addressed to the two of you at the same address every 4 months.  They must come from 3+ different official sources, which may include NHS, other government agencies, utilities, banking, etc.

9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2020, 04:50:39 PM »
- For the IHS surcharge, I don't know - I would upload the new receipt and a note explaining the mistake
- You do not need a certified copy of your passport
- You do not need a certified copy of your BRP
- Are your bank statements official copies (sent in the mail)? If not, they must be stamped on every page by your bank
- No, you do not need the third party consent form signed as there is no third party involved
- The letter from your friend about living with them is fine... all they have to do is confirm you lived at that address
- You do not need a certified copy of your husband's passport
- Are your payslips official and issued by the company? If not, they must be accompanied by a letter from the employer confirming their authenticity
- For the evidence of monthly housing costs, you only need: mortgage statement and council tax bill... and you are missing your Land Registry document (which is the most important document for the accommodation requirement)

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- Address evidence of us living together covering the last 2 years
First rental place
Jul 2017 - Joint Name - Tenancy Agreement
Apr 2018 - Individual name - HM Revenue & Customs
Jul 2018 - Individual name - TV license
Subletting from a friend
Sep 2018 - Individual name - Thames water
Mar 2019 -  Joint Name - Mortgage statement that was mailed to our subletting place
Flat owned by us since May 2019
Joint bank statement that covers a Apr 2019 to Jul 2019
Jul 2019 - Joint Name - Council tax bill
Nov 2019 - Joint Name - British gas bill

You only need to cover the last 2 years, from Feb/Mar 2018 to Feb/Mar 2020... so your July 2017 document is irrelevant and should not be included. The documents must be spaced every 4 months and be from at least 3 different sources. If you have individually named documents, you need 1 each for that same month, so that you have 6 in each name.

At the moment, you have plenty of sources. However, not counting July 2017, you have 4 joint documents and 3 individual documents, but you don't say which name the individual documents are in, so I can't tell how many are in each name.

So, based on the dates you have you want to provide documents from:
Mar 2018
1. Your name - ?
1. His name - ?


July 2018
2. Your name - ?
2. His name - ?

Whose name is the TV licence in?

Nov 2018
3. Your name - ?
3. His name - ?


Mar 2019
4. Your name - Joint mortgage statement
4. His name - Joint mortgage statement

July 2019
5. Your name - Joint council tax
5. His name - Joint Council tax

Nov 2019
6. Your name - Joint British gas bill
6. His name - Joint British gas bill

Optional extra: Feb/Mar 2020
7. Your name - ?
7. His name - ?


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Aside from uploading document, here are what to bring to the biometric appointment
- Applicant passport
- Husband passport?
- Application confirmation PDF file
- All the docs that I've submitted online

I would take all your documents and both passports, just in case.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2020, 10:41:03 AM »
On your September to February payslips, what is the earliest date shown on the September payslip, and the latest date shown on the February payslip?  For example, do the September ones says "pay period September 1 to September 30, 2019", or something to that effect, or does it just show the payment date?  You might need to include August's payslips to cover six FULL months.  (This means you'll also need bank statements for August, too... what are the dates of the bank statements?)

If you still lived with your friend, you would need more details in your friend's letter (how many people lived there, altogether, etc.).  As you are in your own place now, the letter simply confirming you lived with the friend is fine as it is.

What is your proof of accommodation?  It looks like you now own your flat, so you should have a copy of your Land Registry document showing ownership, and a copy of the most recent mortgage statement.  I'm a bit confused on your accommodation section.

The official correspondence that comes to your and your husband isn't to prove your address... it's to prove that you and your husband lived together (by way of showing that you both received your post at the same place).  It's your relationship evidence, along with your marriage certificate.  The correspondence should be evenly spaced over the 2 years period, so one item each, or one jointly-addressed item, addressed to the two of you at the same address every 4 months.  They must come from 3+ different official sources, which may include NHS, other government agencies, utilities, banking, etc.

Just checking my husband's payslip, his payslip says process date Aug 8th, 2019 and the latest one is process date Feb 26,2020. Whereas mine says payday Sep 31, 2019 and the latest one is today Feb 28, 2020. I'm guessing for mine I will also have to include my Aug 30th, 2019 payslip?

Yes I'm living in my own flat and gladly I have the land registry document which isn't a problem.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2020, 11:04:22 AM »
I just wrote out an entire reply and then went to check something in your past posts and realised I needed to change my entire reply.

You have already submitted your online application, right? What date did you submit it?

That date is your cut-off for the financial requirement, as it is your official application date... and from your previous posts, it looks like you paid for your visa on Feb 26th?

If so, you cannot use your February payslip towards the 6 months because it is dated after February 26th... therefore you can only use your January payslip towards the visa requirements.

Your latest payslip must be dated no earlier than 28 days before the date you submitted your online application, so assuming you did submit on Feb 26th, both yours and your husband's January payslips must be dated on or after January 29th in order to qualify for the visa.

Assuming they are both dated January 31st, your 6 months will be July 31st 2019 to January 31st 2020.

Which means you will both need to submit the following payslips and bank statements:
July 2019
August 2019
Sept 2019
Oct 2019
Nov 2019
Dec 2019
Jan 2019

If your husband's January payslip is dated before January 29th, you will also need his February 26th payslip... which should still meet the requirements as long as you did not submit the application before he received it or before the money was deposited into his bank account.

However, if you are also including his February payslip and bank statement, I would also include yours, just to make you are both covering the whole of February with your documents, even though your February payslip is dated too late to meet the requirements.

So, yt providing payslips and bank statements from July right through to February, you are covering all bases.

Quick question, though as you have already completed and submitted the application form, it's likely to be irrelevant now:
- Do either of you earn £18,600 on your own, or do you both earn less than £18,600 and therefore need to combine your incomes to reach £18,600?

If it's the former, and one of you earns £18,600 or more with just your salary, when filling out the application form, you just leave the other person's employment details blank and do not need to include any financial documents from them.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2020, 11:38:32 AM »
- For the IHS surcharge, I don't know - I would upload the new receipt and a note explaining the mistake
- You do not need a certified copy of your passport
- You do not need a certified copy of your BRP
- Are your bank statements official copies (sent in the mail)? If not, they must be stamped on every page by your bank
- No, you do not need the third party consent form signed as there is no third party involved
- The letter from your friend about living with them is fine... all they have to do is confirm you lived at that address
- You do not need a certified copy of your husband's passport
- Are your payslips official and issued by the company? If not, they must be accompanied by a letter from the employer confirming their authenticity
- For the evidence of monthly housing costs, you only need: mortgage statement and council tax bill... and you are missing your Land Registry document (which is the most important document for the accommodation requirement)

You only need to cover the last 2 years, from Feb/Mar 2018 to Feb/Mar 2020... so your July 2017 document is irrelevant and should not be included. The documents must be spaced every 4 months and be from at least 3 different sources. If you have individually named documents, you need 1 each for that same month, so that you have 6 in each name.

At the moment, you have plenty of sources. However, not counting July 2017, you have 4 joint documents and 3 individual documents, but you don't say which name the individual documents are in, so I can't tell how many are in each name.

So, based on the dates you have you want to provide documents from:
Mar 2018
1. Your name - ?
1. His name - ?


July 2018
2. Your name - ?
2. His name - ?

Whose name is the TV licence in?

Nov 2018
3. Your name - ?
3. His name - ?


Mar 2019
4. Your name - Joint mortgage statement
4. His name - Joint mortgage statement

July 2019
5. Your name - Joint council tax
5. His name - Joint Council tax

Nov 2019
6. Your name - Joint British gas bill
6. His name - Joint British gas bill

Optional extra: Feb/Mar 2020
7. Your name - ?
7. His name - ?


I would take all your documents and both passports, just in case.


- Are your bank statements official copies (sent in the mail)? If not, they must be stamped on every page by your bank: No they aren't and they are all stamped.
- Are your payslips official and issued by the company? If not, they must be accompanied by a letter from the employer confirming their authenticity:
Mine is as they are always posted to my flat every end of month whereas my husband doesn't get that. He is getting paid weekly and he gets digital payslip. He does have a letter from his employer confirming that he is permanently employed, with hourly rate included, getting paid weekly with the gross salary of this much, I'm guessing this is sufficient? I also have my signed employment letter and contract just in case.
- For the evidence of monthly housing costs, you only need: mortgage statement and council tax bill... and you are missing your Land Registry document (which is the most important document for the accommodation requirement): Thanks. I was just looking at my land registry, since our flat is a leasehold, it doesn't include our name but our developer's company name on it, is that what I need to provide or is it something else?

Apr 2018
HM Revenue
My name

Jul 2018
TV License
My name

Sep 2018
Thames water
My name

Mar 2019
Mortgage statement that was mailed to our subletting place
Joint Name

Jul 2019
Council tax bill
Joint Name

Nov 2019
British Gas bill
Joint Name

Jan 2020
Annual mortgage statement
Joint name

 
I'm not sure if that's enough as I can see from April 2018 to Sep 2018 all docs are under my name, the ones that I can find that is under my husband's name are either the tenancy agreement dated 2017 or his HM Revenue and customs dated for tax year of 2016-2017.  The only one that I can find that has our joint name, dated Jul 2018, is a simple word doc issued from the rental property management, signed by both of us, confirming that they accept the tenancy extension. Do you think I should replace this with the Jul 2018 TV license evidence?


As for your latest post, yes about paying my visa on Feb 26th and gotcha about the payslip. Since my husband is getting paid weekly, so he has all the january payslip dated before Jan 29th. Whereas mine, since I get paid every end of month, it is actually dated Jan 31st, so I will actually have to provide my payslip for February. In this case, might as well include my husband's February payslip.

We both earn a lot more than £18600 but on the application form I included both our employment details. Since I've already submitted the application form I think I can't change it and leave the other person's detail blank.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2020, 12:46:39 PM »
Mine is as they are always posted to my flat every end of month whereas my husband doesn't get that. He is getting paid weekly and he gets digital payslip. He does have a letter from his employer confirming that he is permanently employed, with hourly rate included, getting paid weekly with the gross salary of this much, I'm guessing this is sufficient? I also have my signed employment letter and contract just in case.

No, this is not sufficient. That letter is a separate requirement to the payslip authentification

The requirements for payslips are (https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-appendix-fm-se-family-members-specified-evidence):
(bb) Payslips must be:
(i) formal payslips issued by the employer and showing the employer’s name;
or
(ii) accompanied by a letter from the employer, on the employer’s headed paper and signed by a senior official, confirming the payslips are authentic;

 
The letter should verify the date of each payslip plus the gross amount on the payslip, the net amount deposited into his bank account and the date deposited into the account. It must also explain any discrepancies between date and amount on the payslip and the date and amount on the bank statement (i.e. if the money went in on a different date to the payslip)

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I was just looking at my land registry, since our flat is a leasehold, it doesn't include our name but our developer's company name on it, is that what I need to provide or is it something else?

The Land Registry is an absolute requirement, so I would include it, along with your mortgage statement and council tax. I assume your name(s) are on the mortgage?

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I'm not sure if that's enough as I can see from April 2018 to Sep 2018 all docs are under my name, the ones that I can find that is under my husband's name are either the tenancy agreement dated 2017 or his HM Revenue and customs dated for tax year of 2016-2017.  The only one that I can find that has our joint name, dated Jul 2018, is a simple word doc issued from the rental property management, signed by both of us, confirming that they accept the tenancy extension. Do you think I should replace this with the Jul 2018 TV license evidence?

For every month you have a document in your name, you MUST have one in his name too.

That's the whole point of providing the mail... it's not about showing where you lived, it's about showing you lived TOGETHER in those months... so you have to show you both received mail at the same address in the same month. We always advise that as soon as you arrive in the UK, you get both names on as much mail as possible, turn off paperless statements for everything, and you save ALL mail from every single month, so that you will have lots to choose from when you get to FLR(M) and ILR.

What about monthly bank statements? As long as they were received in the mail, you could include his bank statement for the months of April, July and September 2018.

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As for your latest post, yes about paying my visa on Feb 26th and gotcha about the payslip. Since my husband is getting paid weekly, so he has all the january payslip dated before Jan 29th. Whereas mine, since I get paid every end of month, it is actually dated Jan 31st, so I will actually have to provide my payslip for February. In this case, might as well include my husband's February payslip.

No, it's the other way around - the ABSOLUTE latest date on the last payslips provided must be AFTER January 29th and BEFORE February 26th. So, your January 31st payslip is fine... but your February one cannot be considered because it is dated after February 26th.

However, if all of his January payslips are dated BEFORE January 29th, then you need one of his February payslips in order to meet the requirement. If he is paid weekly, then you can include the one for the first week of February, so that January 31st is covered on his payslip too. The bank statements must show every payslip deposit.

As your last payslip that can be considered for the visa is dated January 31st, the 6 months you MUST cover with both yours and his payslips and bank statements is:
July 31st through to January 31st.

So you provide your payslips and bank statements for July to January and his latest payslips and bank statements for July to his first February payslip.

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We both earn a lot more than £18600 but on the application form I included both our employment details. Since I've already submitted the application form I think I can't change it and leave the other person's detail blank.

No, you can't change it now, but you could have saved yourself a lot of faff with the documents if you had sorted all the documents out before you applied.

Because you filled out both of your employment details, you now have to include two sets of financial documents, instead of one, which makes things more complicated because you have to coordinate the dates for both sets so that they both cover the period from July to early February.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2020, 02:28:05 PM »
Payslips
Mine are formal ones issued and mailed to the post by my employer and showing their name on.
As for my husband's, the payslips that his employer issued are all digital, and on the digital payslips it shows the employer's name. If this is still not formal then yes I will ask him to get a letter from his employer detailing all what you just said.

The Land Registry is an absolute requirement, so I would include it, along with your mortgage statement and council tax. I assume your name(s) are on the mortgage?
Yes both are under our name so this is all good.

For every month you have a document in your name, you MUST have one in his name too.

That's the whole point of providing the mail... it's not about showing where you lived, it's about showing you lived TOGETHER in those months... so you have to show you both received mail at the same address in the same month. We always advise that as soon as you arrive in the UK, you get both names on as much mail as possible, turn off paperless statements for everything, and you save ALL mail from every single month, so that you will have lots to choose from when you get to FLR(M) and ILR.

What about monthly bank statements? As long as they were received in the mail, you could include his bank statement for the months of April, July and September 2018.[/i]
Yes I will include monthly bank statements that has my husband's name under the months of April, July, and September 2018. With these docs I guess I'm all set with the evidence of proving that we lived together?

The payslips months that I'm providing
Gotcha about the number of months that I need to provide as well as my husband's part

Application form
Thanks for the tip! Yeah it sounds a lot easier if I only include my employment detail!


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2020, 02:45:54 PM »
Payslips
Mine are formal ones issued and mailed to the post by my employer and showing their name on.
As for my husband's, the payslips that his employer issued are all digital, and on the digital payslips it shows the employer's name. If this is still not formal then yes I will ask him to get a letter from his employer detailing all what you just said.

No, online payslips are not considered formal. Formal means they are printed by the employer on official company paper and either handed to you or mailed to you. If they are printed from online, they must be accompanied by the letter.

Normally people will ask their employer to include the payslip verification in their mandatory employer letter, but as you have already applied and that mandatory letter MUST be dated between Jan 29th and Feb 26th, you will need a separate letter for the payslips. Ideally, this should all have been sorted out before you submitted your online application, but as all the payslips were issued before you applied online, it should be okay that the letter is dated after you applied.

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The Land Registry is an absolute requirement, so I would include it, along with your mortgage statement and council tax. I assume your name(s) are on the mortgage?
Yes both are under our name so this is all good.

Great :). I'm not familiar with how it all works when the property is leasehold, but I assume that as long as you have the Land Registry plus the mortgage statement in both names, you should be fine.

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Yes I will include monthly bank statements that has my husband's name under the months of April, July, and September 2018. With these docs I guess I'm all set with the evidence of proving that we lived together?

Great :). I would list them all again here, and include the exact dates printed on them, just so we can make sure that they all meet the requirements.

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The payslips months that I'm providing
Gotcha about the number of months that I need to provide as well as my husband's part

Cool :). As you are providing both sets of financial documents, you want to be thorough with the dates and make sure they they each cover a full 6 months and that they both cover the SAME 6 months as each other.

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Application form
Thanks for the tip! Yeah it sounds a lot easier if I only include my employment detail!

Yeah, unfortunately it's too late for this application, but if you are in the same financial situation for ILR, you can just include one set of employment information and documents :).


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2020, 07:30:03 PM »
No, online payslips are not considered formal. Formal means they are printed by the employer on official company paper and either handed to you or mailed to you. If they are printed from online, they must be accompanied by the letter.

Still requesting this so TBC.

Yes I will include monthly bank statements that has my husband's name under the months of April, July, and September 2018. With these docs I guess I'm all set with the evidence of proving that we lived together?

So I've actually found a joint statement that covers March 29th 2018 to Jul 2 2018. So I'm changing the evidence slightly.

Joint Mar 29th 2018
Joint bank statement covering March 29th 2018 to Jul 2 2018

Individual July 2018
My husband's bank statement covering Jul 06 to Aug 03 2018
My TV license dated July 31 2018

Individual Sep 2018
My husband's bank statement covering Sep 06 2018 to Oct 05 2018
My thames water bill dated Sep 12 2018

Joint Mar 2019
Our mortgage offer statement from the bank

Joint Jul 2019
Council tax bill dated Jul 12 2019

Joint Nov 2019
British Gas bill dated Nov 04 2019

Jan 2020
Annual mortgage statement dated Jan 2020



Additional question -
For bank statement to prove that the payslips have been paid into the account, does the address have to match? Basically my husband forgot to change his address on the bank statement so only his February 2020 statement is showing our current address, the statements from Jul 2019 to Jan 2020 are all at our previous address. Whereas mine are all up to date.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2020, 07:47:44 PM »
Still requesting this so TBC.

So I've actually found a joint statement that covers March 29th 2018 to Jul 2 2018. So I'm changing the evidence slightly.

Joint Mar 29th 2018
Joint bank statement covering March 29th 2018 to Jul 2 2018

You can only use the date that the bank statement was mailed to you... so this will count for the month of July 2018, not March 2018, because it was mailed to you in July and not in March (it hadn’t even been issued in March so you can’t claim it was mailed to you that month).

So, instead you could use this as a joint document for July 2018 instead of the individual ones.

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Individual July 2018
My husband's bank statement covering Jul 06 to Aug 03 2018
My TV license dated July 31 2018

Again, your husband’s bank statement will only count for August 2018, because it wasn’t issued until August.

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Individual Sep 2018
My husband's bank statement covering Sep 06 2018 to Oct 05 2018
My thames water bill dated Sep 12 2018

And this bank statement will only count for October 2018, because it wasn’t issued until October.

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For bank statement to prove that the payslips have been paid into the account, does the address have to match? Basically my husband forgot to change his address on the bank statement so only his February 2020 statement is showing our current address, the statements from Jul 2019 to Jan 2020 are all at our previous address. Whereas mine are all up to date.

It must be paid into an account in his name, or in both your names, but I don’t think the address matters.



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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2020, 07:50:09 AM »
Ok, hopefully I got everything this time. Can you double check for me?

- A copy of my passport
- A copy of both sides of my current BRP
- A signed contract from my employer
- My bank statement all stamped by my bank: Since my bank statement covers a long period of time, so I had to print out April to July 2019, Jul to Dec 2019, and Jan up to Feb 28th 2020.
- My husband's bank statement all stamped by his bank: Starting from 6 Jun to 5 July 2019 to 6 Feb 2020
- Signed consent form apart from part 3
- A letter from our friend confirming we lived with her when we were subletting from her
- Evidence of my husband's immigration status: a copy of his british passport
- A copy of my US passport to prove my english level
- Evidence of my council tax bill for where I'm currently living
- A letter from my employer confirming my payslips
- A letter from my husband's employers confirming his payslips
- My P60
- A copy of our marriage certificate
- My payslips from 7/31/2019 to 1/31/2020
- My husband's payslips from 7/1/2019 to 2/3 2020 (since his last payslip in Jan is dated 1/30/2020). Also because his payslip is digital, we've also got a confirmation letter from the employer confirming the gross and net amount of all payslips as well as the date that were deposited in his bank (no discrepancies)
- Accommodation Evidence
Individual April 2018
My husband's bank statement covering 3/6 to 4/5/2018
My HM revenue dated 4/19/2019

Joint July 2018
Joint bank statement covering 3/29/2018 to 7/2/2018

Individual Sep 2018
My husband's bank statement covering 8/4 to 9/5/2018
My thames water bill dated Sep 12 2018

Joint Mar 2019
Our mortgage offer statement from the bank

Joint Jul 2019
Council tax bill dated Jul 12 2019

Joint Nov 2019
British Gas bill dated Nov 04 2019

Jan 2020
Annual mortgage statement dated Jan 2020

- Evidence of monthly cost - Annual mortgage statement, council tax bill, and land registry



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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2020, 09:46:14 AM »
Marriage certificate?  Nevermind, I found it!

It would be easier if you listed the items in sections so we can easily see if each area is satisfied.  You need to prove that you meet three eligibility items: financial, relationship, and suitable accommodation.

For financial, you have:
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- A signed contract from my employer
- My payslips from 7/31/2019 to 1/31/2020
- My bank statement all stamped by my bank: Since my bank statement covers a long period of time, so I had to print out April to July 2019, Jul to Dec 2019, and Jan up to Feb 28th 2020.
- A letter from my employer confirming my payslips
- My P60
- My husband's payslips from 7/1/2019 to 2/3 2020 (since his last payslip in Jan is dated 1/30/2020). Also because his payslip is digital, we've also got a confirmation letter from the employer confirming the gross and net amount of all payslips as well as the date that were deposited in his bank (no discrepancies)
- My husband's bank statement all stamped by his bank: Starting from 6 Jun to 5 July 2019 to 6 Feb 2020
- A letter from my husband's employers confirming his payslips

Do you have letters from your respective employers confirming the type of employment, role, pay, whether salaried or non-salaried, and term of employment (whether permanent or fixed-term)?  You said you have letters confirming the payslips, which is not the same thing.  These employer letters are required documents, and I don't see them listed, but maybe you just described them differently or I've overlooked them?

Your relationship evidence is the 6 items of correspondence  sent to the same address, and your marriage certificate.  The post is used to show that you and your spouse have been living together throughout the time since your last visa (because you received your mail at the same place the whole time), and that you are married.  The gap between September 2018 and March 2019 is six months... that is too long.  Do you have an extra item for both of you that you can throw in there to fill that gap?

Your last item is not "evidence of monthly cost".  It is proof that you will have suitable accommodation.  You prove this by showing you own your home with a copy of the land registry document and the most recent mortgage statement.  The council tax bill is a new addition to the evidence, but I think it's to further prove you live where you live...?  Or maybe that you're paying your taxes as required?  I actually don't know its purpose.  But if the checklist wants it, include it.  :)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2020, 09:49:16 AM by jfkimberly »
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2020, 10:21:54 AM »
Do you have letters from your respective employers confirming the type of employment, role, pay, whether salaried or non-salaried, and term of employment (whether permanent or fixed-term)?  You said you have letters confirming the payslips, which is not the same thing.  These employer letters are required documents, and I don't see them listed, but maybe you just described them differently or I've overlooked them?

Yes I do have letters from respective employers confirming all you mentioned.
The reason why I have my husband's employer confirming his payslips is because his are all digital, and from what ksand said they aren't official and require a letter to confirm their legitimacy.

Your relationship evidence is the 6 items of correspondence  sent to the same address, and your marriage certificate.  The post is used to show that you and your spouse have been living together throughout the time since your last visa (because you received your mail at the same place the whole time), and that you are married.  The gap between September 2018 and March 2019 is six months... that is too long.  Do you have an extra item for both of you that you can throw in there to fill that gap?
How about I use the info for Nov 2018 instead of September 2018?

Your last item is not "evidence of monthly cost".  It is proof that you will have suitable accommodation.  You prove this by showing you own your home with a copy of the land registry document and the most recent mortgage statement.  The council tax bill is a new addition to the evidence, but I think it's to further prove you live where you live...?  Or maybe that you're paying your taxes as required?  I actually don't know its purpose.  But if the checklist wants it, include it.  :)
I went back to see my visa application checklist again, the only proof of accommodation that they ask are - Evidence of council tax costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live, and the other one is evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live but no given instructions of what to provide.
I threw in council tax bill is because there was a monthly housing costs section when I filled out the visa application form, I've included my mortgage, council tax bill, water and electricity costs, so that's why I wanted to show the evidence of it.


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Re: FLM(R) document checklist
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2020, 11:16:22 AM »
Yes I do have letters from respective employers confirming all you mentioned.
The reason why I have my husband's employer confirming his payslips is because his are all digital, and from what ksand said they aren't official and require a letter to confirm their legitimacy.
How about I use the info for Nov 2018 instead of September 2018?
I went back to see my visa application checklist again, the only proof of accommodation that they ask are - Evidence of council tax costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live, and the other one is evidence of monthly housing costs for the accommodation in the UK where you live or will live but no given instructions of what to provide.
I threw in council tax bill is because there was a monthly housing costs section when I filled out the visa application form, I've included my mortgage, council tax bill, water and electricity costs, so that's why I wanted to show the evidence of it.

So the employer letters must be the ones you said were confirming the payslips.  That's good.

For the correspondence, leaving out September 2018 and putting in November 2018 will work.  That gives you:
  • April 2018
  • July 2018
  • November 2018
  • Mar 2019
  • Jul 2019
  • Nov 2019
  • Jan 2020

That's much better spacing.
9/1/2013 - "fiancée" (marriage) visa issued
4/6/2013 - married (certificate issued same-day)
5/6/2013 - FLR(M)#1 in person -- approved!
8/1/2016 - FLR(M)#2 by post -- approved!
8/5/2018 - ILR in person -- approved!
22/11/2018 - Citizenship (online, with NDRS+JCAP) -- approved!
14/12/2018 - I became a British citizen.  :)


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