FLR M - getting ready for this :-)

And here is me thinking that another 6 months on FLR(M) which would total to 3 years and married to a BC would allow her to apply for citizenship, the fact that I even thought the Home Office would make it that simple makes me want to smack myself over the head! Thanks all for the replies :-)


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And here is me thinking that another 6 months on FLR(M) which would total to 3 years and married to a BC would allow her to apply for citizenship, the fact that I even thought the Home Office would make it that simple makes me want to smack myself over the head! Thanks all for the replies :-)


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Yeah, it’s annoying.

Thing is, they are two completely different sets of rules, so just because citizenship is 3 years, doesn’t mean you can qualify after 3 years, because ILR is 5 years and you need to hold the latter before you can qualify for the former.

Before July 2012, it worked as follows for people married to UK citizens:
- one 27-month spousal visa
- apply for ILR after 24 months
- apply for citizenship when you meet the 3-year requirements (time in the UK on other visas before the spousal visa could count)

In July 2012, they rehauled the settlement visa system so that it works as follows (for spousal visa holders. People on fiancé visas have to apply for an extra FLR(M) visa):
- one spousal visa valid 33 months
- one FLR(M) visa valid 30 months
- apply for ILR after 60 months (5 years in the U.K.)
- apply for citizenship as soon as you have ILR and can meet the 3-year citizenship requirements

For people not married to U.K. citizens, it has always taken 5 years to get ILR then another 12 months to get citizenship... so it was just that the settlement visas were changed to increase qualifying for ILR from 2 years to 5 years.



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The only members we have had be successful for free appointments were ones who could wait 6-8 weeks for the biometrics.  The decision will come 6-8 weeks later.

As always do NOT book travel until after your wife has her new (correct) BRP in her hands.  While they've been better lately, we've seen several members wait nearly a month for the "24 hour service".  Again, the last few months have been smoother.  But you can't take anything at face value with UKVI.

hello again everyone!! Im sorry i havent posted much. gotten on with life mostly. Got a job, got a car  and most recently doing my best not to freak out over the latest global crisis . this is one of my first posts in a long time. Ive tended to    lurk and read other threads in hopes of finding answers to my questions that way.
 
  Sorry j2j for sticking myself to your post! but we have similar timelines and i am also looking into this next phase.

I arrived here Oct 26 2017 and my BRP expires june 29 2020.  A question regarding the above quote. I dont think i would get the 24 hr service, so im wondering, as long as i applied and sent my information/documents and paid my fees before 29/6/2020 i am good? or must i have attended my brp appointment before 29/6/2020 at which case applying first week of may is a good idea? and then of course there is the 6-8 weeks before a decision so for all that time after 29/6/2020 am i alright to work? to live here? gah!

on that note, i am usually paid on the 28th of each month, so trying to plan ahead and make things straightforward for me in terms of documents needed.

also, just want to give a little praise to everyone here who are stellar at replying to the posts on this forum. yall are incredible, the way you guys know sections of the law and guides is amazing. and how you can figure out the dates, and documents needed for each case. just. wow. a very big thanks to you all. 

-stef

hello again everyone!! Im sorry i havent posted much. gotten on with life mostly. Got a job, got a car  and most recently doing my best not to freak out over the latest global crisis . this is one of my first posts in a long time. Ive tended to    lurk and read other threads in hopes of finding answers to my questions that way.
 
  Sorry j2j for sticking myself to your post! but we have similar timelines and i am also looking into this next phase.

I arrived here Oct 26 2017 and my BRP expires june 29 2020.  A question regarding the above quote. I dont think i would get the 24 hr service, so im wondering, as long as i applied and sent my information/documents and paid my fees before 29/6/2020 i am good? or must i have attended my brp appointment before 29/6/2020 at which case applying first week of may is a good idea? and then of course there is the 6-8 weeks before a decision so for all that time after 29/6/2020 am i alright to work? to live here? gah!

on that note, i am usually paid on the 28th of each month, so trying to plan ahead and make things straightforward for me in terms of documents needed.

also, just want to give a little praise to everyone here who are stellar at replying to the posts on this forum. yall are incredible, the way you guys know sections of the law and guides is amazing. and how you can figure out the dates, and documents needed for each case. just. wow. a very big thanks to you all. 

-stef

As long as you have submitted and paid for your online application before your current leave to remain expires, you will be protected under section 3c of the immigration rules. It doesn't matter if you have not yet attended your biometrics appointment.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/771652/3C-3D-Leave-v9.0ext.pdf

Thank you Larrabee!

 Thats a relief. last week of may, first week of june is my goal then

thank you everyone! will try to post more and not lurk so much  hehe

Just wrapping up the FLR (M) application online. It’s pretty self explanatory and similar to the first one. Quick question. On the type of visa page where it comes up with a list with radio buttons.

Can I double check that the type of visa is FAMILY and NOT SETTLEMENT?

Also, when we need to provide the financial information does it suffice to provide my applicants payslips and corresponding bank statements (as she is the main applicant) or do I also need to provide my own (as the partner) or do we need to provide both sets....?

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Just wrapping up the FLR (M) application online. It’s pretty self explanatory and similar to the first one. Quick question. On the type of visa page where it comes up with a list with radio buttons.

Can I double check that the type of visa is FAMILY and NOT SETTLEMENT?

Also, when we need to provide the financial information does it suffice to provide my applicants payslips and corresponding bank statements (as she is the main applicant) or do I also need to provide my own (as the partner) or do we need to provide both sets....?

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I think most people choose Family although Settlement would not be incorrect either.
If one of you meets the income requirement then only mention their pay in the application and only include their financial documents.
Only include both sets if you actually need both to amount to £18.6k.

Hi all,
So application submitted, all done, IHS fee paid for and application fee paid for.

Now.... coming to booking an appointment (no appointments available anywhere in London as of yet)

Next question, under the document upload category on the SOPRA STERIA site.... do we need to upload ALL the documents (e.g financial bank statements, pay slips, letters of correspondence, marriage certificate etc)

Am I right to assume that we no longer need to SEND anything via post ?! This is all online and uploaded via SOPRA STERIA?

Thanks and sorry for the questions!


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Hi all,
So application submitted, all done, IHS fee paid for and application fee paid for.

Now.... coming to booking an appointment (no appointments available anywhere in London as of yet)

Next question, under the document upload category on the SOPRA STERIA site.... do we need to upload ALL the documents (e.g financial bank statements, pay slips, letters of correspondence, marriage certificate etc)

Am I right to assume that we no longer need to SEND anything via post ?! This is all online and uploaded via SOPRA STERIA?

Thanks and sorry for the questions!


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Yes, EVERYTHING is uploaded now (even your passport and BRP) and NOTHING is sent by post at all.

You can either upload the documents to the Sopra Steria website yourself, or you can pay extra to add the ‘document scanning’ option when you book your biometrics appointment and have them scan and upload all the documents for you at the appointment.


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Yes, EVERYTHING is uploaded now (even your passport and BRP) and NOTHING is sent by post at all.

You can either upload the documents to the Sopra Steria website yourself, or you can pay extra to add the ‘document scanning’ option when you book your biometrics appointment and have them scan and upload all the documents for you at the appointment.


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Thanks Ksand, so regardless of when an appointment is available now.... (God knows!) the application was submitted today, the BRP expiry date is 27th June. (I believe that as along as the application was submitted prior to BRP expiry it’s fine)

I guess we just start uploading all the docs (This is going to be a fun weekend!)

Thanks!


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Thanks Ksand, so regardless of when an appointment is available now.... (God knows!) the application was submitted today, the BRP expiry date is 27th June. (I believe that as along as the application was submitted prior to BRP expiry it’s fine)

Yes. The only date that matters is the date you submitted the online application, because that is your official application date.

As long as you applied online before your BRP expired, your immigration status will be automatically extended under 3C Leave while you’re waiting for a biometrics appointment and for the visa to be processed.

They are slowly opening up the UKVCAS centres, but at the moment, only people who booked an appointment before the centres closed in March, and who then had their appointment cancelled, are currently able to rebook and attend their appointments. Everyone else will still have to wait.


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Yes. The only date that matters is the date you submitted the online application, because that is your official application date.

As long as you applied online before your BRP expired, your immigration status will be automatically extended under 3C Leave while you’re waiting for a biometrics appointment and for the visa to be processed.

They are slowly opening up the UKVCAS centres, but at the moment, only people who booked an appointment before the centres closed in March, and who then had their appointment cancelled, are currently able to rebook and attend their appointments. Everyone else will still have to wait.


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Thanks ksand24 for being as responsive as ever.

Quick summary of the co-habitation correspondence documentation list for checking.

My wife arrived from the US on her spousal  visa in November 2017.

November 2017

Letter from DWP re National Insurance - Wifes Name

March 2018

NHS Registration Letter - Wifes Name

June 2018

EDG Energy Bill - My Name

August 2018

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name

September 2018

Council tax - joint names

October 2018

American Express statement - My name
NHS Letter - Wifes Name

March 2019

NHS Appointment letter - Wifes Name

April 2019

Council tax adjustment letter - Joint names

May 2019

HSBC Letter - Wifes Name
HSBC Letter - Wifes Name
HSBC Credit card letter - Wifes Name
HMRC tax code letter - Wifes name
Barclays Bank statement - My Name

July 2019

Barclays Bank statement - My Name

November 2019

Council tax - Joint names

December 2019

EDF Energy Bill - My Name
Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)

January 2020

HMRC Letter - Wifes Name

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)


Feb 2020

Barclays Bank Letter - My Name

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)

March 2020

Council Tax - Joint Names
HMRC - Wifes Name

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)

April 2020

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)

American Express Credit statement - My Name

May 2020

Barclays Bank Statement - My Name (same postal document is being used in conjunction with financial requirement)

I think that’s probably more than enough!



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Thanks ksand24 for being as responsive as ever.

Quick summary of the co-habitation correspondence documentation list for checking.

My wife arrived from the US on her spousal  visa in November 2017.

Okay, you only need to cover the last 2 years for the cohabitation evidence, so you want evidence spaced every 4 months from June 2018 to June 2020, so you need 1 document in each name from each of the following months, from at least 3 different sources:

June 2018
October 2018
February 2019
June 2019
October 2019
February 2020
Optional extra: June 2020

From what you have listed, you can use:

June 2018
1. Sponsor: EDG Energy Bill (source 1)
1. Applicant: ?

October 2018
2. Sponsor: American Express statement (source 2)
2. Applicant: NHS letter (source 3)

February 2019
3. Sponsor: ?
3. Applicant: ?

June 2019
4. Sponsor: ?
4. Applicant: ?

October 2019
5. Sponsor: ?
5. Applicant: ?

February 2020
6. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Letter - (source 4)
6. Applicant: ?

Optional extra: June 2020
7. Sponsor: ?
7. Applicant: ?

So, from the documents you have listed, you have:
- 4 sources
but you only have:
- 3 documents in your name from the required months
- 1 document in your wife's name.

Do you have monthly mailed bank statements you can use to fill in the gaps?

Alternatively, you might be able to get away with using 4-monthly intervals between May 2018 and May 2020:

May 2018
1. Sponsor: ?
1. Applicant: ?

September 2018
2. Joint: Council Tax

January 2019
3. Sponsor: ?
3. Applicant: ?

May 2019
4. Sponsor: Barclays Bank statement
4. Applicant: HMRC tax code letter

September 2019
5. Sponsor: ?
5. Applicant: ?

January 2020
6. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Letter
6. Applicant: HMRC Letter

Optional extra: May 2020
7. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Statement
7. Applicant: ?

So, now you have:
- 3 sources
- 4 documents in your name
- 3 documents in your wife's name

Is there any other mail you can use from the months listed above? It must have been received in the post, not electronically

You could use
- monthly mailed bank statements
- water bills
- tenancy agreements
- mortgage statements
- Payslips (if they are official, not online, and have your address on them
- P60s
- TV licence letters/documentation

Okay, you only need to cover the last 2 years for the cohabitation evidence, so you want evidence spaced every 4 months from June 2018 to June 2020, so you need 1 document in each name from each of the following months, from at least 3 different sources:

June 2018
October 2018
February 2019
June 2019
October 2019
February 2020
Optional extra: June 2020

From what you have listed, you can use:

June 2018
1. Sponsor: EDG Energy Bill (source 1)
1. Applicant: ?

October 2018
2. Sponsor: American Express statement (source 2)
2. Applicant: NHS letter (source 3)

February 2019
3. Sponsor: ?
3. Applicant: ?

June 2019
4. Sponsor: ?
4. Applicant: ?

October 2019
5. Sponsor: ?
5. Applicant: ?

February 2020
6. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Letter - (source 4)
6. Applicant: ?

Optional extra: June 2020
7. Sponsor: ?
7. Applicant: ?

So, from the documents you have listed, you have:
- 4 sources
but you only have:
- 3 documents in your name from the required months
- 1 document in your wife's name.

Do you have monthly mailed bank statements you can use to fill in the gaps?

Alternatively, you might be able to get away with using 4-monthly intervals between May 2018 and May 2020:

May 2018
1. Sponsor: ?
1. Applicant: ?

September 2018
2. Joint: Council Tax

January 2019
3. Sponsor: ?
3. Applicant: ?

May 2019
4. Sponsor: Barclays Bank statement
4. Applicant: HMRC tax code letter

September 2019
5. Sponsor: ?
5. Applicant: ?

January 2020
6. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Letter
6. Applicant: HMRC Letter

Optional extra: May 2020
7. Sponsor: Barclays Bank Statement
7. Applicant: ?

So, now you have:
- 3 sources
- 4 documents in your name
- 3 documents in your wife's name

Is there any other mail you can use from the months listed above? It must have been received in the post, not electronically

You could use
- monthly mailed bank statements
- water bills
- tenancy agreements
- mortgage statements
- Payslips (if they are official, not online, and have your address on them
- P60s
- TV licence letters/documentation

Will gap fill with bank statements and I think I’ve got a TV license somewhere.
I mean we kept everything hence why we started from the minute she arrived into the UK and kept mail from way back in 2017! Thanks :-)


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Will gap fill with bank statements and I think I’ve got a TV license somewhere.
I mean we kept everything hence why we started from the minute she arrived into the UK and kept mail from way back in 2017! Thanks :-)

That's good .

You already have enough sources, so if you can use mailed bank statements to fill in the gaps, you'll be all sorted .