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ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2020, 10:48:27 PM »
My employer has posted a letter out to me and they have dated it 11th June 2020, basically covering my payslips from December to May and bank statements for this period as well.

How long is this letter valid for? Within 28 days of the application?

So if We apply somewhere between 20-30th June will we be OK with dates?

My payslips are dated the end of the month and our May bank statement is dated the 21st May.


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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2020, 11:31:03 PM »
What are the exact dates on your latest payslip and bank statement?

I’m confused about how the May 21st bank statement can show your 31st May payslip on it? Or is that a typo and you mean it’s dated May 31st?

You have 28 days from the EARLIEST date on the latest payslip, bank statement and employer letter... because none of them can be more than 28 days old on the date you apply online.

So, if the latest bank statement is dated May 21st, then you must submit the online application by June 18th (tomorrow) at the very latest.

Or, if the latest payslip and bank statement are both dated May 31st, you have until June 28th at the very latest to submit the online application.


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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2020, 09:58:03 AM »
Hi Ksand,

Apologies for any confusion.

My payslip is dated 31st May.

The bank statement is dated 21st May (which means my May payment won’t show until the June statement)

The letter from my employer which confirms the last 6 months (December to May) of payslips is dated 11th June.

So I think you are right, based on the current documents we have we need to apply by tonight.

Is the alternative to wait for the June statement to come on the 21st June and then apply by the 28th?

I gather at the point of application we do not need to upload all of the documents there and then. So even if the bank statement hasn’t arrived by the 28th, there is still time to obtain this before the point of upload? Is my understanding right?

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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2020, 11:14:30 AM »
The bank statement is dated 21st May (which means my May payment won’t show until the June statement)

The letter from my employer which confirms the last 6 months (December to May) of payslips is dated 11th June.

So I think you are right, based on the current documents we have we need to apply by tonight.

Yes, but you can’t apply by tonight because your May 21st bank statement does not meet the visa requirements before it does not show your May 31st payslip on it.

The ONLY reason you provide bank statements is to prove that every single payslip was deposited into a bank account in your name.

So, if you provide only the May 21st bank statement, the visa will be refused, because you won’t have provided a bank statement with the May 31st payslip on it.

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Is the alternative to wait for the June statement to come on the 21st June and then apply by the 28th?

Your only options are:
- wait for the June 21st bank statement and apply by the 28th
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- ask the bank to print a partial statement showing the May 31st payslip on it and apply by the 28th.

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I gather at the point of application we do not need to upload all of the documents there and then. So even if the bank statement hasn’t arrived by the 28th, there is still time to obtain this before the point of upload? Is my understanding right?

The bank statement MUST be dated before your online application date.

So, you cannot apply online until you have it.

If your bank is open and you can go in, you could see if they will print it for you this week.


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2020, 04:15:32 PM »
Yes, but you can’t apply by tonight because your May 21st bank statement does not meet the visa requirements before it does not show your May 31st payslip on it.

The ONLY reason you provide bank statements is to prove that every single payslip was deposited into a bank account in your name.

So, if you provide only the May 21st bank statement, the visa will be refused, because you won’t have provided a bank statement with the May 31st payslip on it.

Your only options are:
- wait for the June 21st bank statement and apply by the 28th
Or
- ask the bank to print a partial statement showing the May 31st payslip on it and apply by the 28th.

The bank statement MUST be dated before your online application date.

So, you cannot apply online until you have it.

If your bank is open and you can go in, you could see if they will print it for you this week.


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Thank you for your help Ksand. We will start working on the application ready to submit this before the 28th.

I think I saw this in another thread some time ago and copy and pasted on my notes file. Is this still the process to be followed?

The process should be:
- collect all your documents and make sure they are all in order, and meet all the requirements
- fill out the online application
- submit and pay for the application... this just has to be done before the visa expires, and all your documents must be ready on that date
- register an account with the UKVCAS website
- keep checking the UKVCAS site for updates regarding when the centres are reopening
- when biometrics appointments are available to book again, you can book one
- if you have chosen an appointment where they scan and upload the documents for you, you just take all the documents to the appointment
- if you have chosen a free appointment with no scanning service, you have until the appointment date to upload all your documents


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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2020, 02:50:21 PM »
Hi all

We are just going through the ILR application and going through the questions and could do with some advice.

We would very much appreciate any advice.

— Do you have any family in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

Does this just refer to immediate family such as mother? Surely this doesn’t mean cousins etc. For immediate family just would just be my wife’s mother.

— Do you have any friends in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

We can’t remember what we put on the previous application. Does this matter if the answer is different now to what it was previously? We have included this time around the details of 2 friends living in America.

— Are you part of any social groups or do you have any other cultural ties in your country or birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?
Not entirely sure what this question means, but if you answer ‘no’ it asks for reasons why your or your family would not be able to integrate into any of these countries?’

We put ‘no’ because ‘all of my social networks are now within the U.K. having lived here for 5 years.’ This is the truth, so hopefully this is sufficient?

— For evidence of my settled status within the U.K. it says I need to supply a copy of my passport and that this should include copies of every page including any blank pages.
Is this right? I know documents need to be scanned now but this is a lot of scanning of blank pages.

— When did you first meet your current partner?
Does this mean face to face? Because we had known each other and been together online for 6 years before meeting.

The answer for face to face meeting is 12 Feb 2014.

— The follow you question to this is when did the relationship with your partner begin?
The answer for when our relationship began was 31 October 2008.

However I’m concerned that they may think it is in error if we put the date of our relationship starting before we actually met.

— Could you and yours partner live together outside the U.K. if necessary?
Surely the answer to this is ‘no’ as I do not have an American visa. Is this right?

— It asks the question about employment in the last 6 months and whether I have earned the same amount above the financial requirement. I have, however sometimes I am paid extra depending on how much travel expensive is reimbursed to me. However my actual salary remains the same.
Should we therefore answer this:

A) the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement or;
B) not the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement

—Other questions—
— I have a letter from my employer confirming my employment status and the payslips authenticity.

Does my P60 or the payslips themselves need to have a signature and date on them from payroll or other senior official at my place of employment or are they OK as they are so long as I have the letters?

— We recently remortgaged the property we live in on 20th February 2020 and have a letter which basically says ‘thank you for remortgaging with us your month payments are £X’ from NatWest. Is this sufficient as we wouldn’t have a mortgage statement at the moment?

Thank you for time in reading the above and thank you in advance for any help or support you can provide.


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2020, 03:11:22 PM »
— Do you have any family in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

Does this just refer to immediate family such as mother? Surely this doesn’t mean cousins etc. For immediate family just would just be my wife’s mother.

They mean every single relative you can think of.

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— Do you have any friends in your country of birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

We can’t remember what we put on the previous application. Does this matter if the answer is different now to what it was previously? We have included this time around the details of 2 friends living in America.

I doubt they will know what you put on the last one.

You should list every single friend you can think of in the US.

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— Are you part of any social groups or do you have any other cultural ties in your country or birth, nationality or any other country where you have lived for more than 5 years?

Not entirely sure what this question means, but if you answer ‘no’ it asks for reasons why your or your family would not be able to integrate into any of these countries?’

We put ‘no’ because ‘all of my social networks are now within the U.K. having lived here for 5 years.’ This is the truth, so hopefully this is sufficient?

They mean things like church groups, cultural centres/groups, local communities etc.

If you don't have any, then just say No.

Basically, all of the above questions are to find out whether, if your ILR was refused, you have a community and/or family and/or friends you could go back to in the US.

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— For evidence of my settled status within the U.K. it says I need to supply a copy of my passport and that this should include copies of every page including any blank pages.

Is this right? I know documents need to be scanned now but this is a lot of scanning of blank pages.

I'm not sure this applies to you, because you do not have settled status in the UK.

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— When did you first meet your current partner?

Does this mean face to face? Because we had known each other and been together online for 6 years before meeting.

The answer for face to face meeting is 12 Feb 2014.

I would go with the face-to-face meeting date.

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— The follow you question to this is when did the relationship with your partner begin?

The answer for when our relationship began was 31 October 2008.

However I’m concerned that they may think it is in error if we put the date of our relationship starting before we actually met.

I doubt it will be an issue, but you can always make a note of this somewhere on the application, or include a note in the cover letter explaining the difference in dates.

What did you put on your last 2 applications for this question?

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— Could you and yours partner live together outside the U.K. if necessary?

Surely the answer to this is ‘no’ as I do not have an American visa. Is this right?

No, the answer is YES.... because you COULD get an American visa if you needed to. Just because you don't have one right now, doesn't mean you can never apply for one.

Not to mention, you could get visas to live in a number of other countries around the world as well.

Suitable reasons why you could not live together outside the UK would be:
- your life would be in danger if you returned to your home country (i.e. because of war, terrorism, famine, natural disasters
- you have no family or friends or support system in your home country
- your spouse is permanently banned from entering the US and will never, ever be allowed to step foot on US soil
- you and your spouse would not be eligible to apply for a visa for any other country in the world (i.e. due to criminal convictions)

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— It asks the question about employment in the last 6 months and whether I have earned the same amount above the financial requirement. I have, however sometimes I am paid extra depending on how much travel expensive is reimbursed to me. However my actual salary remains the same.

Should we therefore answer this:

A) the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement or;
B) not the same amount continuously, above the financial requirement

Answer A.

If you answer B, the form seems to think that means you do not qualify under Category A and therefore must supply 12 months of payslips and bank statements... which is not the case if you have been earning above £18,600 with the same employer for 6 months.

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— Under the list of mandatory documents it requests ‘All previous passports, travel documents or national identity cards that you have used to travel to or remain in the U.K.’

My wife had to renew her passport in 2016 and we used her original passport (the one applicable to her entry in June 2015) as part of the FLR application yet since then this has been misplaced. Will it cause an issue if we only have a copy of her current passport at hand? We also obviously have her BRP from her previous FLR.

Everything is scanned and uploaded now - you do not send anything by post anymore... so, just scan and upload the copy of her passport. You can always include a note to say it's a copy as the passport has been lost.

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—Other questions—

— I have a letter from my employer confirming my employment status and the payslips authenticity.

Does my P60 or the payslips themselves need to have a signature and date on them from payroll or other senior official at my place of employment or are they OK as they are so long as I have the letters?

No, as long as the letter verifies the details and amounts on each payslip (and the P60 if required), they do not need to be stamped or signed.

The payslip requirements:

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(bb) Payslips must be:
(i) formal payslips issued by the employer and showing the employer’s name; or
(ii) accompanied by a letter from the employer, on the employer’s headed paper and signed by a senior official, confirming the payslips are authentic

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— We recently remortgaged the property we live in on 20th February 2020 and have a letter which basically says ‘thank you for remortgaging with us your month payments are £X’ from NatWest. Is this sufficient as we wouldn’t have a mortgage statement at the moment?

I would include both the letter and your latest annual mortgage statement (the one issued before you remortgaged).


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2020, 06:12:54 PM »
Thank you very much Ksand. This is very helpful information.

I’m not sure why it is asking about settled status because my wife clearly doesn’t have this and when asked we’ve always said that I am a British Citizen.

These are the options we are given and we think we have  chosen correctly.




The wording below this screenshot says 'This should be your partner’s current passport or travel document. You may send copies instead of the original document if you are applying on a partner 2-year or 5-year route. Every page of the passport must be copied including any blank pages.'

Based on the above we are given this option.



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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2020, 07:25:58 PM »
Ah, sorry, I got confused - I thought you were talking about the APPLICANT's settled status (which you don't have yet, because you are applying for it), not the UK sponsor's.

Yes, for that you upload every page of their UK passport.


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2020, 02:45:54 PM »
Hi all,

Could someone please sense check the correspondence we are going to submit as part of the application?  For reference, my wife originally entered the UK on 20th June 2015, and her visa is due to expire 14th August 2020.  So she would have been in the country for 5 years exactly as of yesterday.  We are hoping to submit her application sometime next week.

December 2017 Joint bank statement addressed to us both.  (Coincidently this is also the one submitted as evidence of bank statements in the FLR application.)
May 2018 Copy of British Gas utility bill, however this is addressed as such 'Mr and Mrs [my first name] [Last Name].  Would this be sufficient as it doesn't actually say my wife's first name?  We're basically addressed as 'Mr and Mrs'.  Alternatively, I could possibly locate a bank statement.  We did submit two utility bills in this format for FLR and they were accepted so this leads me to believe we should be OK.  I'm just extra cautious when it comes to things like this.
October 2018 Joint bank statement addressed to us both.
March 2019 Copy of council tax bill addressed to us both.
August 2019 Same as above regarding the British Gas utility bill.  However, we've also located a letter from my employer to me, and an EE phone bill in my wife's name as an alternative.
January 2020 Copy of Sky bill addressed to my wife, and a letter from my employer to me regarding a salary increase.  Alternatively, we have a letter from the bank addressed to us both which is an 'annual statement of fees'.
June 2020 Letter from NHS addressed to my wife, and a letter from Curry's addressed to me regarding the expiration of a service plan.

Thank you for any help you can provide.

The other question that has come to mind is regarding evidence of having a mortgage.  Due to us remortgaging in February, I never received an annual statement as this would have been due in April.  I do have an aforementioned letter from the new mortgage lender saying thank you for remortaging with us and this is what your monthly payments are, and I have a letter from the previous mortgage lender basically saying, thank you for paying off your mortgage with us.  Surely submitting the two of these together will be sufficient?
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« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2020, 08:47:54 AM »
Hi all

Could anyone check this please? We want to submit this week but want to double check this before doing so.

Thank you


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #26 on: June 23, 2020, 09:04:01 AM »
Looks good.

For mortgage documents, I would submit:
- the last annual mortgage statement issued before you remortgaged (to prove you paid it each month)
- the letter confirming your remortgage


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« Reply #27 on: June 23, 2020, 12:40:01 PM »
Looks good.

For mortgage documents, I would submit:
- the last annual mortgage statement issued before you remortgaged (to prove you paid it each month)
- the letter confirming your remortgage


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Thank you Ksand for your help.

I’m having trouble locating the last annual mortgage statement and when I try to call Halifax about it they don’t want to talk to me because I don’t have an account with them and they are busy with COVID-19.

I do have a letter from them confirming the mortgage was paid in full and someone should be able to see the outgoing payments from 3 months of bank statements prior to the remortgage 3 months ago.   I have the letter confirming the remortgage.

Maybe I could include some narrative around this in a covering letter?

I’ve also noticed that my last pay slip was dated 29th May rather than 31st May meaning we need to apply before the 26th June rather than 28th.


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #28 on: June 23, 2020, 12:44:12 PM »
Thank you Ksand for your help.

I’m having trouble locating the last annual mortgage statement and when I try to call Halifax about it they don’t want to talk to me because I don’t have an account with them and they are busy with COVID-19.

I do have a letter from them confirming the mortgage was paid in full and someone should be able to see the outgoing payments from 3 months of bank statements prior to the remortgage 3 months ago.   I have the letter confirming the remortgage.

Maybe I could include some narrative around this in a covering letter?

In that case, just include both letters.

No need to include a narrative in a covering letter.


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Re: ILR Application Thread! Help!
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2020, 06:04:33 PM »
Hi all

The application has been sent off today! Wish us luck! It was nerve wracking pressing the submit button.

Now just to wait for a UKVCAS appointment near us.
Looking at this, there is no appointment available even up to the 28th July.

Are we allowed to travel to one that isn’t local to us just so we can secure an appointment?


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