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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #15 on: January 13, 2005, 10:16:03 AM »
First, thanks to Marsbar for investigating...

What about this idea. What if we did surprise food packages. Like get a list of likes and dislikes from our buddy and limit it to lets say 8 items or so per box and just send surprise items. I for one really miss Velveeta by the way :)


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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2005, 04:41:03 PM »
Thanks for your research, Mars! This is going to be great! I can't believe that I might actually be getting some Mrs. Dash Lemon Pepper! Wheeeeee!
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2005, 05:57:49 PM »
Thanks Sarah!  You have a very useful hobby!!!!  :D
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2005, 11:52:43 PM »
Hiya everyone,

Believe it or not Ive had a really nice time doing this research. Yes, Im strange, I know.

The following lists of items which are prohibited or restricted comes from the UPS website. Every company is bound to be a bit different so Ive highlighted any differences Ive noticed later on in this post. Ive highlighted prohibited or restricted items in red. Not all of the items in red are prohibited, for example Tobacco products are OK in certain circumstances. Perishables are also ok if you contract the shipment but its likely to be expensive to ship and expensive to pack.

Following the initial list from UPS are some notes Ive made and some handy information which you might like to use when arranging shipment for your packages.

Hope everyone finds this handy.
Sarah

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Prohibited / Restricted Items

From the United States to United Kingdom
It is prohibited to ship the following commodities to United Kingdom.

* Beef Jerky and salami
* Knives (Flick, gravity, spring, or butterfly knives)
* Stamps, Postage
* Vegetable Matter

From the United Kingdom to the United States
It is prohibited to ship the following commodities to The United States.

* Distilled liquors (for example, whiskey, rum, or vodka)*
* Lottery Tickets
* Negotiable Bonds, Drafts


* Shipments containing distilled liquors will be refused entry and returned to the country of export and may be subject to a US$75.00 manipulation charge.

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In addition to the country specific prohibited items as above, UPS also has their own list of items which they will not ship or will ship in certain circumstances.
This is their list as seen on their website:


Prohibited / Restricted Items

The following items may be shipped to countries outside the United States, where service is allowed, on a contractual basis only:

    * Alcoholic beverages
    * Dangerous goods
    * Diagnostic specimens
    * Perishables
    * Personal effects**
    * Plants
    * Seeds
    * Tobacco

The following items may be shipped by UPS but are restricted to specific quantities, size and/or value:

    * Airline Tickets
    * Ammunition
    * Artwork
    * Dangerous Goods
    * Furs
    * Jewelry
    * Knives
    * Loose Gemstones
    * Loose Pearls
    * Magnets
    * Precious Metals

The following articles are not accepted for transportation by UPS to countries outside the United States:

    * Animal products, nondomesticated
    * Cash
    * Corpses
    * Firearms
    * Furs
    * Human Remains
    * Industrial Diamonds
    * Ivory
    * Letters of Credit Shipments
    * Live Animals
    * Pornographic Materials
    * Precious Stones
    * Postage Stamps     


**Personal effects are permitted to the United Kingdom provided they are shipped through The UPS Store.

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Even though it doesnt seem fair, I imagine that SEEDS would go so far to include Sunflower seeds. If someone in the UK wants sunflower seeds maybe your food buddy should call UPS and ask if thats ok, if theyre shipping via UPS that is. Same goes for your favourite cigarettes (Tobacco).

It appears that no forms are required to accompany UK bound shipments being carried by UPS. A certificate of Origin only needs to accompany textile goods to the UK over the value of £18.00 which are NOT for personal use and are not in bulk quantities. I doubt we'll be sending anything like that. A Shippers Export Declaration is only needed when a single Section B commodity exceeds a value of $2500 or for which an export license is required. Again, I dont think that applies to us either.

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The FDA has recently taken measures to protect the US food supply against Bioterrorism (as if this is what we're trying to do here!) and now requires "Prior Notice" for manufactured food stuffs for human and / or animal consumption in most cases. Luckily for us, the US does NOT require Prior Notice for homemade and manufactured food stuffs being sent to individuals in the USA as a gift.

When sending a package containing food to the USA you MUST detail on the your customs forms (you dont need anything special if you arent a commercial exporter) that the package contains ONLY food for individual consumption and is being sent as a GIFT. If you simply state that the package contains "food" the package will be sent back to you at your cost or destroyed.

The legalees version of this new law can be found on the FDA's Website, the lay-man's description can be found on Royal Mail's Website, and here's what FedEx has to say.

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Companies which you may like to use to send your packages include:

UK & USA - DHL [Website] [Standard DHL Prohibitions] [UK Prohibitions] [US Prohibitions]
UK & USA - Federal Express (FedEx) [Website]
UK & USA - UPS [Website] [Standard UPS Prohibitions] [UK Prohibitions] [US Prohibitions]
USA Only -  US Postal Service (USPS) [Website]
UK Only -    Royal Mail [Website]
UK Only -    Parcel Force [Website] [Standard Parcel Force Prohibitions] [US Prohibitions & Restrictions]

Many of these companies have websites where you can print postage and arrange pickups. Some of the company specific prohibitions that stuck out to me while reviewing the information include:

DHL - Bullion is a company wide Standard Prohibition (dont ask me why!). DHL also requests that you contact your local service office to clarify export regulations to the UK for the following items: Foodstuffs, Grain samples, Alchoholic Beverages (besides spirits, which arent allowed), Non Perscription Dugs, Plant Products and Tobacco; and to clarify export regs to the US for the following items: Foodstuffs, Tobacco,  Alcoholic beverages and Plant Products. DHL Prohibits items made in certain countries (such as N Korea) from being shipped into the USA. I believe this includes foodstuffs. If youre worried about this check the DHL US Prohibitions link.

USPS - The USPS requires all international parcel post shipments to have a completed Customs Form 2976-A insterted into PS Form 2976-A Envelope

Parcel Force - Prohibitions include meat and meat products; contraceptives; fresh fruit, fish and vegetables; and alchohol. Restrictions include plant and plant seed products and cigarettes. Import permits are required for all parcels containing feathers, bulbs, plants, parts of plants and seeds. In addition, Parcel Force's general restrictions included such unusual items as Christmas Crackers, which "may only be sent in complete made-up form and in their retail packaging." Parcel Force DOES allow Perishables in the following circumstances: "Fresh fruit, meat, fish and other perishable articles should be able to withstand a journey of up to two days, and must be sent by Parcelforce 24 as a minimum requirement. Packages must be clearly labelled PERISHABLE. Packages of fish should be smoked or chilled, and sealed in vacuum packs before consignment. In all cases they must be enclosed in adequate polystyrene containment to prevent contamination."

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I havent been able so far to find any STATE Specific import restrictions online but I know that some states like Texas do not allow Alcholol imports and some states like California have Ivory restrictions. I dont think we'll encounter much difficulty there.

Ok thats it!! More if I find it :)
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2005, 11:53:46 PM »
First, thanks to Marsbar for investigating...

What about this idea. What if we did surprise food packages. Like get a list of likes and dislikes from our buddy and limit it to lets say 8 items or so per box and just send surprise items. I for one really miss Velveeta by the way :)


That sounds fun! Maybe we could do one or two surprise packages, depending on how many packages are sent out throughout the year.
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2005, 12:02:29 AM »
This is just a breakdown of what I posted earlier for ease of use. The list isnt 100% accurate as things like meats CAN be sent but its probably going to be more trouble than its worth, more expensive than its worth, and not really of any interest anyhow. Id much prefer Jammie Dodgers, wouldnt you? So this is a general do / dont list.

DO NOT SEND TO USA

* Meat
* Fish
* Plants
* Seeds
* Vegetables
* Fruits
* Alcoholic Beverages
* Anything Corrosive / Flamable / Toxic
* Perishables if they wont last longer than say... 4 days to be safe.


DO NOT SEND TO UK

* Meat
* Fish
* Plants
* Vegetables
* Fruits
* Alcoholic Beverages
* Anything Corrosive / Flamable / Toxic
* Perishables if they wont last longer than about 4 days
* Beef jerkey, Salami, curred meats
* Non-domesticated Animal products


Funnily enough I didnt really see "DAIRY" Products listed anywhere. So maybe cheese is ok to send to the USA as long as it'll keep. I wouldnt send things like milk (as if you would!), non vaccume sealed cheeses that need to be refrigerated, cream etc. Sorry ladies in the UK - no whipped cream for you.

Things that will be ok that I have a feeling people will probably ask about:

* Spices
* Chocolate
* Homemade goods
* Nuts
* Christmas cake with brandy
* Things containing fruit as long as they're not fresh (like Strawberry tarts)
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2005, 09:38:28 AM »
What??? No corpses????? lol
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2005, 10:14:31 AM »
What??? No corpses????? lol

Gosh, Darn it, I will have to take the corpse out the "Surprise" package I started;)

Someone must have tried that, or there would not be the rule.


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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2005, 06:02:08 PM »
also... damn those pesky terrorist lottery tickets *rolls eyes*  ;)
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2005, 06:30:54 PM »
Ooh this sounds like a fun idea!  If more American participants join in, I'll consider doing it as well, but I don't want to upset the balance just now.

A note on the spices -- I was taking spices back with me in my suitcase after a visit to the States, and TSA ended up having to open my suitcases when doing a routine X-ray, because they said that their litmus test indicated explosives!  :o  Turns out, it was just my spices that raised the alarm -- dunno why, but they did.  Anyway, I don't know how it works with parcels, but it's possible that ones with spices could get opened up for this reason.  It'd probably be ok, but just a heads up!
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2005, 06:37:12 PM »
I'm hoping too that we can recruit somebody else here on the US side; until then, MarsBars kindly offered to have two foodie friends, and I'm happy to do the same.

So, should we get the ball rolling, now that we know what not to send?  (really disappointing about the corpses, eh?)

If nobody has an objection, I can put everybody's names into a hat, and have my six year old pull names to match up friends?

All we need to do is determine the amount to spend, including postage.  What are everybody's thoughts on that? 
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2005, 06:59:26 PM »
Im cool with the names out of hats idea :)

What about $30. At the current exchange rate thats £16. And that would include shipping as well. It seems like a good number to choose but food can get very heavy and even small values of food can cost mucho grande to send. So in any case everyone should be very carefull when they go out shopping not to spend like £13 on food and leave £3 for shipping because £13 of food can be a lot. Thats even more important for us american buddies because $25 worth of food can be very very heavy, especially if youre sending thinks like cans of soup (for instance Campbells Golden Mushroom) which is at MOST a dolllar, but it weights a ton.

I think this is going to require a bit of practice.
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2005, 11:55:19 AM »
What about $30. At the current exchange rate thats £16. And that would include shipping as well.

That sounds good to me! I assume we're shipping surface, not air mail? It'll take a while for the first packages to arrive, but since we're going to be doing it on a fairly regular basis, it should all even out in the end. Do others agree?


If nobody has an objection, I can put everybody's names into a hat, and have my six year old pull names to match up friends?

No objection at all! Get that 6-year-old limbering up his/her hat-drawing hand!

This is really exciting! I'm looking forward to it. I wish we could let others on the site know what we're doing. Unless they've read this thread, they wouldn't know and might want to participate.
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Re: Food Swap
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2005, 01:24:52 PM »
$30/£16 sounds good to me....I agree it will take a bit to work out the shipping etc/ but with some trial and error we should be able to figure it out. Kellie thanks for organizing all this..and yes feel free to draw names!


Re: Food Swap
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2005, 03:52:33 PM »
Yes I agreee with the cost and drawing of names also. Very excited about this!


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