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Various ILR Questions
« on: September 08, 2020, 09:57:28 AM »
Good Morning All

I am going to be applying for ILR at the end of the month/beginning of October and I have some questions. I feel very unprepared this time around applying as we have a nearly 4 month old baby and have just been completely imersed in being new parents. From what I understand, the application is done online completely, the supporting docs are scanned in and due to covid I think the biometrics are now being done via an app? Is this correct? As far as supporting docs go, is it very similar to FLR(m)? I have the list of my previous docs submitted for the last visa. Can someone advise what else is needed or can be omitted from the list below?

With the docs being scanned in, is it necessary for them all to be 'originals'? Meaning if we have online electric bills, can these just be printed from home and submitted as is? Most of our other docs are posted to us but I am a bit concerned we wont have enough cohabitation docs that are 'original'. How does this work for the bank statment portion? Do these still need to be stamped and signed by the bank as well? What about passports? If everything is being scanned, I am assuming that the passports do not need to be posted?

I am going to be starting the online application tonight and just doing bits of it in the evenings once baby has gone to sleep. Any help on the above would be very much appreciated.

Here is the list of docs I previously submitted. I know that I need to cover cohabitation docs from the last 2.5 years and I am assuming this is around 6 documents again? I also know we do not need to pay the IHS surcharge this time around. I also have the Life the UK test pass number.

Applicant Documents
-Covering Letter (not required I know, just made me feel better  :))
-Completed FLR(M) Application
-IHS Payment Confirmation
-Current Passport
-Previous Passport
-2x Passport Photos (name printed on back)
-BRP Card

Sponsor Documents
-Sponsor Letter (again I know not required)
-Current Passport
-1x Passport Photo (name printed on back)

Financial Requirement - Category A
-8 Payslips Covering 6 Month Period
-Corresponding Bank Statements for above Period (stamped and signed)
-Letter from Employer Confirming Authenticity of Payslips, P60 and Employment Verification (Salary, type of employment, start date etc)
-Latest Issued P60 (April 2017)

Accommodation Documents
[/b]-Tenancy Agreement
-Supplemental Tenancy Agreements

Relationship & Cohabitation Documents
-Marriage Certificate
-Photo of Husband and I
-Cohabitation Documents: (covering from December 2015-March 2018)
December 15 - Applicant: NI Letter
January 16 - Sponsor: Bank Statement
March 16 - Joint: Bank Statement
June 16 - Joint: Tenancy Agreement
September 16 - Joint: Bank Statement
December 16 - Joint: Supplemental Tenancy Agreement
March 17 - Joint: Council Tax Bill
June 17 - Joint: Bank Statement
September 17 - Joint: Bank Statement
December 17 - Joint: Supplemental Tenancy Agreement
March 18 - Joint: Council Tax Bill

Can I also confirm that if I entered the UK on 24/10/15 (date stamped in my passport), I can apply 28 days prior to this date?
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2020, 11:35:25 AM »
Good Morning All

I am going to be applying for ILR at the end of the month/beginning of October and I have some questions. I feel very unprepared this time around applying as we have a nearly 4 month old baby and have just been completely imersed in being new parents. From what I understand, the application is done online completely, the supporting docs are scanned in and due to covid I think the biometrics are now being done via an app? Is this correct? As far as supporting docs go, is it very similar to FLR(m)? I have the list of my previous docs submitted for the last visa. Can someone advise what else is needed or can be omitted from the list below?

With the docs being scanned in, is it necessary for them all to be 'originals'? Meaning if we have online electric bills, can these just be printed from home and submitted as is? Most of our other docs are posted to us but I am a bit concerned we wont have enough cohabitation docs that are 'original'. How does this work for the bank statment portion? Do these still need to be stamped and signed by the bank as well? What about passports? If everything is being scanned, I am assuming that the passports do not need to be posted?

I am going to be starting the online application tonight and just doing bits of it in the evenings once baby has gone to sleep. Any help on the above would be very much appreciated.

Here is the list of docs I previously submitted. I know that I need to cover cohabitation docs from the last 2.5 years and I am assuming this is around 6 documents again? I also know we do not need to pay the IHS surcharge this time around. I also have the Life the UK test pass number.

Applicant Documents
-Covering Letter (not required I know, just made me feel better  :))
-Completed FLR(M) Application
-IHS Payment Confirmation
-Current Passport
-Previous Passport
-2x Passport Photos (name printed on back)
-BRP Card

Sponsor Documents
-Sponsor Letter (again I know not required)
-Current Passport
-1x Passport Photo (name printed on back)

Financial Requirement - Category A
-8 Payslips Covering 6 Month Period
-Corresponding Bank Statements for above Period (stamped and signed)
-Letter from Employer Confirming Authenticity of Payslips, P60 and Employment Verification (Salary, type of employment, start date etc)
-Latest Issued P60 (April 2017)

Accommodation Documents
[/b]-Tenancy Agreement
-Supplemental Tenancy Agreements

Relationship & Cohabitation Documents
-Marriage Certificate
-Photo of Husband and I
-Cohabitation Documents: (covering from December 2015-March 2018)
December 15 - Applicant: NI Letter
January 16 - Sponsor: Bank Statement
March 16 - Joint: Bank Statement
June 16 - Joint: Tenancy Agreement
September 16 - Joint: Bank Statement
December 16 - Joint: Supplemental Tenancy Agreement
March 17 - Joint: Council Tax Bill
June 17 - Joint: Bank Statement
September 17 - Joint: Bank Statement
December 17 - Joint: Supplemental Tenancy Agreement
March 18 - Joint: Council Tax Bill

Can I also confirm that if I entered the UK on 24/10/15 (date stamped in my passport), I can apply 28 days prior to this date?

You pretty much have it all correct.
No IHS, you do need the life in the UK test pass, correspondence over 2.5 years, as you mention.
The requirements for original documents are the same as before. Online bank statements must be stamped on every page or accompanied by a letter of authenticity and correspondence doesn't count unless it's been posted to you through the mail.


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2020, 09:22:17 AM »
Going through the checklist and just wanted to double check on a few things.

- For the covering letter, what should I include in this?

- I have read elsewhere that passport photos for husband and I are not needed for this visa? Is this correct?

- Does my husband need to type up a sponsor letter? If so, what should be included in this letter?

- For accommodation, we moved into a rented house in Jan of this year. Prior to that we lived in another rented property, do I need to provide tenancy agreements for both? Or just where we currently live?

- Do we need to submit any photos of ourselves together? Assuming no, but just want to double check :)

- We recently had a baby, should I include a copy of her birth certificate showing she was born in the UK so she isn't considered a dependent?

Thank you!!
« Last Edit: October 01, 2020, 09:28:12 AM by kcauser926 »
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2020, 11:50:03 AM »
- For the covering letter, what should I include in this?

You don't need a covering letter unless you have something complicated about the application that needs to be explained.

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- I have read elsewhere that passport photos for husband and I are not needed for this visa? Is this correct?

That's correct, no passport photos are needed

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- Does my husband need to type up a sponsor letter? If so, what should be included in this letter?

No, he doesn't - no sponsor letter needed for in-country applications.

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- For accommodation, we moved into a rented house in Jan of this year. Prior to that we lived in another rented property, do I need to provide tenancy agreements for both? Or just where we currently live?

Only where you currently live (unless you're using the old one for your correspondence documents).

You need the tenancy agreement and latest council tax bill

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- Do we need to submit any photos of ourselves together? Assuming no, but just want to double check :)

No, photos are not needed for FLR or ILR.

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- We recently had a baby, should I include a copy of her birth certificate showing she was born in the UK so she isn't considered a dependent?

You should provide the following for all children you and/or your sponsor have:
- birth certificate
- passport
- letter dated in the last 3 months confirming their address (i.e. from their GP)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2020, 05:27:49 PM »
You don't need a covering letter unless you have something complicated about the application that needs to be explained.

That's correct, no passport photos are needed

No, he doesn't - no sponsor letter needed for in-country applications.

Only where you currently live (unless you're using the old one for your correspondence documents).

You need the tenancy agreement and latest council tax bill

No, photos are not needed for FLR or ILR.

You should provide the following for all children you and/or your sponsor have:
- birth certificate
- passport
- letter dated in the last 3 months confirming their address (i.e. from their GP)

Thank you! For your reply on the accommodation regarding our old house, did you mean if we are using the actual tenancy agreement as part of the correspondence docs?

Not sure I have a letter dated within 3 months for the baby. I only had one letter come from the GP and that was around June. She also does not have a passport as of yet, mostly due to Covid to be honest. We only have a birth certificate. Should I attach a letter stating this?

Thanks!
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2020, 05:42:01 PM »
Thank you! For your reply on the accommodation regarding our old house, did you mean if we are using the actual tenancy agreement as part of the correspondence docs?

Yes, you would only need to include the old tenancy agreement if it will be used for one of your 6 documents showing cohabitation over the last 2.5 years.

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Not sure I have a letter dated within 3 months for the baby. I only had one letter come from the GP and that was around June

Okay, you will need to get a new letter from your GP, then, as the letter is a requirement - even though the online application document list doesn't actually ask for it, we had someone a few months ago who did not include a letter confirming their child's address, and UKVI had to contact her after she applied to ask her to send it... which then likely delayed the application processing time while she got a letter sorted out and sent to them.

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She also does not have a passport as of yet, mostly due to Covid to be honest. We only have a birth certificate. Should I attach a letter stating this?

There may be somewhere on the application form to state this, as I think it may ask for her passport details.

If there isn't though, you could include a note to explain that you have not been able to apply for her passport yet.


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2020, 08:42:21 PM »
Yes, you would only need to include the old tenancy agreement if it will be used for one of your 6 documents showing cohabitation over the last 2.5 years.

Okay, you will need to get a new letter from your GP, then, as the letter is a requirement - even though the online application document list doesn't actually ask for it, we had someone a few months ago who did not include a letter confirming their child's address, and UKVI had to contact her after she applied to ask her to send it... which then likely delayed the application processing time while she got a letter sorted out and sent to them.

There may be somewhere on the application form to state this, as I think it may ask for her passport details.

If there isn't though, you could include a note to explain that you have not been able to apply for her passport yet.

Wow, can’t believe nowhere in the required docs does it mention this. With regards to my child, the only question on the app was ‘do you and your partner have any children’ to which I answered yes. There was nothing else mentioned about passport, letter, even birth certificate.

So the GP letter only needs to state that she lives at our address? Anything else? With the way things are right now with Covid, it’s hard enough to get through let alone a letter. Nightmare.

Many thanks.
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2020, 08:57:28 PM »
So the GP letter only needs to state that she lives at our address? Anything else? With the way things are right now with Covid, it’s hard enough to get through let alone a letter. Nightmare.

Yes, it just needs to confirm her address (I.e. confirm the address they have on file for her). The GP may charge you for the letter - I’ve seen about £25 mentioned by others in the past.


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2020, 09:03:05 PM »
Yes, it just needs to confirm her address (I.e. confirm the address they have on file for her). The GP may charge you for the letter - I’ve seen about £25 mentioned by others in the past.


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Okay. I’ll ring them tomorrow to see what they can do. Is it possible to just have her surgery registration letter resent out to me with a more current date? I mean my daughter is 4 months old. She doesn’t have very much documentation as of yet. Or should I just specifically say that I need a letter confirming the address they have on file for her. Sorry, just don’t want to mess this up!
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2020, 09:10:07 PM »
Okay. I’ll ring them tomorrow to see what they can do. Is it possible to just have her surgery registration letter resent out to me with a more current date? I mean my daughter is 4 months old. She doesn’t have very much documentation as of yet. Or should I just specifically say that I need a letter confirming the address they have on file for her. Sorry, just don’t want to mess this up!
You just need something with her address on it... either a letter addressed to her sent to her address, or a letter addressed to you, confirming her address in the letter.

So, basically, you just need whatever you can get from the surgery.

If they will re-send her registration letter to you, that’s great. If not, you’ll have to ask specifically for them to create a letter that confirms her address (which you may have to pay for).

I haven’t really seen anyone say they’ve been able to get a registration letter re-sent, so I’m not sure if that’s something the GP can/will do.


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2020, 09:43:45 PM »
You just need something with her address on it... either a letter addressed to her sent to her address, or a letter addressed to you, confirming her address in the letter.

So, basically, you just need whatever you can get from the surgery.

If they will re-send her registration letter to you, that’s great. If not, you’ll have to ask specifically for them to create a letter that confirms her address (which you may have to pay for).

I haven’t really seen anyone say they’ve been able to get a registration letter re-sent, so I’m not sure if that’s something the GP can/will do.


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And this is for British born children, right?
26.06.15 - Got Married in U.S.
26.08.15 - Submitted Online Application
31.08.15 - Biometrics Appointment
05.09.15 - Mailed Docs to Sheffield (Priority)
22.09.15 - Received Acknowledgment Email
23.09.15 - Received Decision Made Email
25.09.15 - Visa Received! :)


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Re: Various ILR Questions
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2020, 09:58:31 PM »
And this is for British born children, right?

It's for ALL children that the sponsor and applicant have together, or any children either of them have from a previous relationship. If the child is from a previous relationship and lives with their other parent, you also need to provide evidence from that parent as well.

From the old paper FLR(M) form (Version 07/2018):

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You must provide an original full birth certificate i.e. one which shows the parents’ names for all your children. This includes children applying for leave to remain in the UK with you, those applying separately as a child of a person with limited leave as a partner of a settled person in the UK or person who is in the UK with refugee leave or humanitarian protection, as well as children not applying with you and those not subject to immigration control.

If you are applying as the child of a person with limited leave as a partner of a settled person in the UK or person who is in the UK with refugee leave or humanitarian protection and you are under the age of 18 (or children who are over 18 and who have already been granted leave in this category) then you must provide the documents listed below, in addition to those already
listed above:
• Evidence of where you normally live.
• Evidence that your parent plays an active role in your upbringing. This evidence should be dated within the last 3 months and can include:
▪▪Official correspondence addressed to the child;
▪▪Doctor’s/hospital letters on official headed paper stating the child’s registered address;
▪▪School/nursery letter(s) on headed paper stating the child’s registered address.

If you have dependent children under the age of 18 in the UK (or children who are over 18 and who have already been granted leave in this category as your dependent), you must provide the documents listed below for each child, in addition to those already listed above, even if they are not included in the application:
• Passports/travel documents to confirm your child’s immigration, settlement or citizenship status.
• Biometric residence permit if your child has been issued with one since entering the UK. FLR

Evidence of where your child/children normally lives and that you and/or any partner play an active role in their upbringing. This evidence should be dated within the last 3 months and can include:
▪▪Official correspondence addressed to the child/children;
▪▪Doctor’s/hospital letters on official headed paper stating the child’s/children’s registered
▪▪School/nursery letter(s) on headed paper stating the child’s/children’s registered address.
▪▪If you have access rights to your child a court document issued by the courts showing your access rights; and/or evidence from your former partner that you have access rights.
▪▪Evidence of your and/or any partner’s parental responsibility for the child/children.
▪▪Evidence of where you and/or any partner lives, as the parent of the child/children
▪▪Evidence of anything else you would like us to consider regarding your child’s life, both in the UK and outside the UK.


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