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Re: COVID
« Reply #720 on: July 03, 2022, 09:40:39 AM »
Well it's all interesting.  Some reports, in some channels post some interesting news.
And then we get mainstream reports like this, 'It said the increase in the number of people testing positive was likely being driven by the Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 variants. They are not thought to be more lethal than any other form of Covid but they do appear to be spreading more quickly.'
So..shrug!?! 

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62020908

I think it's just following the natural progression we were expecting, becoming more transmissible but less severe over time.

Doesn't mean I'm not still trying to avoid catching it though!


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Re: COVID
« Reply #721 on: July 03, 2022, 09:41:47 AM »
A lot of epidemologists are now tracing monkeypox as that is taking a different course than what they expect.   I imagine we will have a future of watching these types of pandemics and endemics unfold! Thanks global warming! Thanks loss of habitat! Thanks mankind, we're awesome!

Right? We kind of have it coming for all the damage we've done to the planet.
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Re: COVID
« Reply #722 on: July 03, 2022, 09:43:51 AM »
Ahh I was just posting that in relation to the stuff Nan posted earlier about it being worse.  So which one is it? Less severe or worse? 
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Re: COVID
« Reply #723 on: July 03, 2022, 09:57:40 AM »
Ahh I was just posting that in relation to the stuff Nan posted earlier about it being worse.  So which one is it? Less severe or worse?

I could be wrong but I think it's less (or not more) severe but easier to catch. But combine that with waning immunity levels. Some of the over 75 population still haven't had their spring booster so more of them are now ending up back in hospital.
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Re: COVID
« Reply #724 on: July 03, 2022, 10:40:16 AM »
I could be wrong but I think it's less (or not more) severe but easier to catch. But combine that with waning immunity levels. Some of the over 75 population still haven't had their spring booster so more of them are now ending up back in hospital.
There are a lot of moving parts!

I agree, hospital numbers of folks in because of Covid is not increasing.

I read an article yesterday about the dilemma government is facing as companies develop variations of their vaccines to better deal with the Omicron variants.  How long do they delay the Fall vaccination program and will the new vaccines be producible in enough quantities in time?
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Re: COVID
« Reply #725 on: July 03, 2022, 06:31:32 PM »
Well it's all interesting.  Some reports, in some channels post some interesting news.
And then we get mainstream reports like this, 'It said the increase in the number of people testing positive was likely being driven by the Omicron BA.4 and BA.5 variants. They are not thought to be more lethal than any other form of Covid but they do appear to be spreading more quickly.'
So..shrug!?! 

 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-62020908


Yeah, my concern is that there doesn't seem to be a vaccine that actually works very well on this variant  And because it'd take months to get one into widespread distribution - at about the time when it mutates again?   

The spiffy original vaccines were, what, like 95% effective against the original covid (and Delta?), but had to be tweaked for Omicron... and then were at generally 80%, but with with efficacy starting to fall off more quickly over time (hence the boosters).  From what I can find in the literature, and there isn't a lot of published info on the new variant (BA.5) for obvious reasons - it's so new - but the little bit I've seen says it appears that it punches right through the existing vaccines. I would avoid the popular press on this one for a while and just go with the medical and research journals, or, with blogs posted by reputable research scholars. (And not governments, who have their strings being pulled by more actors than they should have. "Remain Calm, All is Well. Keep buying and keep going to work! We will tell you what you need to know!"   ::) )

So, from what I have read, it is NO LESS severe (not less severe) than Omicron, but since the vaccines don't work as well on it (See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2206576 ), that makes it more dangerous in the long run. Omicron is far from a benign disease - the unvaccinated have been taking a walloping from it. Apparently BA.5 is more efficient at targeting the lungs again, too. And having already recovered from an earlier version of Covid doesn't provide much protection.    I ~think~ I also read that some of the anti-viral treatments now working so well for the older variants do not work anywhere near as well on BA.5. (I'd need to double-check on that, but I think I did read that somewhere legitimate.)The few researchers I follow consistently are saying that the vaccines should have been authorized for development for BA.5 as soon as it emerged, but that the various bureaucratic entities are still dicking around with addressing earlier variants that will probably have gone extinct as BA.5 takes over by the time the 'new and improved' earlier variant vaccine is available for distribution.
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Re: COVID
« Reply #726 on: July 03, 2022, 08:25:56 PM »
I had omicron in January and I’m hoping this last round has been B.5 since it’s “the nasty one”.  It’s definitely having fun in my lungs.   Though…. What’s it matter if I build antibodies against B.5?  I’ll still get the next one….  ::)

Ugh, guess I need to look up monkey pox.  I try not to follow the news.  Or the weather.  My life is better for it!


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Re: COVID
« Reply #727 on: July 03, 2022, 08:48:03 PM »
I had omicron in January and I’m hoping this last round has been B.5 since it’s “the nasty one”.  It’s definitely having fun in my lungs.   Though…. What’s it matter if I build antibodies against B.5?  I’ll still get the next one….  ::)

Ugh, guess I need to look up monkey pox.  I try not to follow the news.  Or the weather.  My life is better for it!

The good news is that you're not in the monkey pox demographic. 


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Re: COVID
« Reply #728 on: July 04, 2022, 02:30:07 AM »
I had omicron in January and I’m hoping this last round has been B.5 since it’s “the nasty one”.  It’s definitely having fun in my lungs.   Though…. What’s it matter if I build antibodies against B.5?  I’ll still get the next one….  ::)

Ugh, guess I need to look up monkey pox.  I try not to follow the news.  Or the weather.  My life is better for it!

Maybe, maybe not. B.5 could end up giving you antibodies for the next several.
Or not. ::)

Hope you are feeling better soon.


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Re: COVID
« Reply #729 on: July 04, 2022, 08:23:14 AM »
Maybe, maybe not. B.5 could end up giving you antibodies for the next several.
Or not. ::)

Hope you are feeling better soon.

I feel much better this week than last.  Lingering cough though which is more annoying than anything.  Probably 80 to 85% of energy levels have returned consistently.  I know I'm a lucky one.  Others wouldn't be able to "handle" what I've had and that's very scary. 


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Re: COVID
« Reply #730 on: July 04, 2022, 08:29:38 AM »
I feel much better this week than last.  Lingering cough though which is more annoying than anything.  Probably 80 to 85% of energy levels have returned consistently.  I know I'm a lucky one.  Others wouldn't be able to "handle" what I've had and that's very scary.

That sounds promising, hope the improvement continues this week.
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Re: COVID
« Reply #731 on: July 04, 2022, 08:35:51 AM »
Absolutely!

Give yourself a lot of credit for that, you've done a really good job with her.  :)


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Re: COVID
« Reply #732 on: July 05, 2022, 03:24:25 AM »
BA.2.75???? 

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Re: COVID
« Reply #733 on: July 05, 2022, 08:32:47 AM »
So while I'm feeling a MILLION BILLION times better, my cough has been getting worse the last day and night.  If I lay down, all I can FEEL is rattle low in my chest by my ribs.  Last night I had to get up and sleep on a recliner to fall asleep, then move to my bed once I was asleep.  THAT sucked.  I do still have some tablets from when I had pneumonia at the end of 2019/start of 2020.  Looked them up and seems like they don't HURT covid so took one last night and another this morning.  I've requested a call with my GP today.  They are having "extreme staff shortages due to covid" so hopefully I'll speak to one today.  Definitely tomorrow if need be.  I get 24/7 video access to a GP through my private insurance (Doctor Care Anywhere) and you can usually speak to a GP within about an hour.  So I know I have that in my back pocket.


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Re: COVID
« Reply #734 on: July 05, 2022, 09:06:37 AM »
Sorry to hear you are still struggling post Covid.  Hopefully a GP will have some ideas.
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