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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2020, 05:29:18 PM »
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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2020, 04:26:23 AM »
I would like to be able to charitably chalk the information in the following article, pulled off Yahoo this evening, as the result of covid-brain.

I'm not sure that's the case, however. He seems mentally unfit for duty, time for the VP to take over.  :o





By Kyle Cheney
Wed, October 7, 2020, 4:00 PM EDT

Donald Trump mounted an overnight Twitter blitz demanding to jail his political enemies and call out allies he says are failing to arrest his rivals swiftly enough.

Trump twice amplified supporters’ criticisms of Attorney General William Barr, including one featuring a meme calling on him to “arrest somebody!” He wondered aloud why his rivals, like President Barack Obama, Democratic nominee Joe Biden and former Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton hadn’t been imprisoned for launching a “coup” against his administration.

“Where are all of the arrests?” Trump said, after several dozen tweets on the subject over the past 24 hours. “Can you imagine if the roles were reversed? Long term sentences would have started two years ago. Shameful!”

By early afternoon, Trump was letting loose his frustrations in an all-caps missive that seemed aimed at nobody in particular.

“DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THE BIGGEST OF ALL POLITICAL SCANDALS (IN HISTORY)!!! BIDEN, OBAMA AND CROOKED HILLARY LED THIS TREASONOUS PLOT!!! BIDEN SHOULDN’T BE ALLOWED TO RUN - GOT CAUGHT!!!” Trump tweeted.

The day-long run of tweets and retweets marked the most frantic stretch of Trump’s public activity since he left the presidential suite at Walter Reed Medical Center and returned to treatment at the White House. They also underscored the degree to which Trump remains fixated on his grievances over the Russia probe, and often on obscure aspects of that investigation that are unintelligible to all but its most careful followers.

Since late Tuesday, Trump has vowed to declassify all documents he claims will show improper activity by Obama and his intelligence advisers — before quickly reversing himself and suggesting he had already done so “long ago” — and repeatedly cited Russian intelligence services’ claims that Clinton “stirred up” the Trump-Russia collusion scandal that has dogged his presidency.

The Trump administration has never held a firm position on whether the president’s tweets constitute direct orders; various tell-all books have described how top officials learned which of his instructions — lawful or otherwise — to ignore and which to accommodate. Courts have at times treated Trump’s tweets at official statements. But on other occasions they’ve been brushed off as political banter that lacks the force of law.

Trump’s Twitter feed tends to be a realtime barometer of his offline moods and whims, however — and themes he hits on repeatedly over 280 characters tend to surface in conversations he holds in private.

A Justice Department spokeswoman did not respond to a request for comment about whether Trump had ever directly asked Barr to order the arrest of his rivals or if his tweet suggesting as much had veered into territory that Barr once said made his job “impossible.”

In past interviews, Barr has signaled that he has no intention of prosecuting senior Obama administration officials, though he has cast doubt on the motives behind the Russia probe and launched an investigation into its origins.

The review Barr ordered has disappointed Trump in recent weeks as the U.S. attorney tapped to lead it, John Durham, has signaled he might not pursue the kinds of high-profile prosecutions the president and his allies are demanding. Durham’s deputy in the review, veteran Justice Department prosecutor Nora Dennehy, recently quit the faltering effort and returned to the private sector.

“NOW THAT THE RADICAL LEFT DEMOCRATS GOT COUGHT [sic] COLD IN THE (NON) FRIENDLY TRANSFER OF GOVERNMENT, IN FACT, THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN AND WENT FOR A COUP, WE ARE ENTITLED TO ASK THE VOTERS FOR FOUR MORE YEARS,” Trump declared late Wednesday morning. “PLEASE REMEMBER THIS WHEN YOU VOTE!”

Trump’s tweet barrage was particularly jarring when set against the political backdrop. Biden has widened his lead over Trump in recent polls, as the president’s support has eroded among women, seniors and other voting blocs that helps him scratch out a victory in 2016. Trump flummoxed his allies Tuesday by summarily shutting down — also via Twitter — negotiations over a coronavirus stimulus bill, only to backtrack hours later by calling on Congress to pass more targeted measures.

But Trump has made clear that he remains focused on punishing perceived enemies regardless of the political cost. While recovering at Walter Reed Monday morning, his chief of staff Mark Meadows told Fox News that Trump had kept busy that morning in part by directing the declassification of documents related to the Russia probe — a set of files he claimed were conclusive proof that Clinton had concocted the notion that his campaign team had ties to Russia even though the Senate Intelligence Committee and the special counsel’s team had rejected the allegations as unverified.

In releasing them, Trump’s own hand-picked intel chief, John Ratcliffe, acknowledged the documents, sourced to Russian intelligence, might have been “exaggerated” or even “fabricated” to deflect from their culpability in the election interference effort.


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2020, 08:16:43 AM »
Speculation on Reddit says that the steroid Trump is on makes people do really crazy things, like sending hundreds of Tweets about nonsense or taking a joyride while infectious.  IDK, I'm no doctor, but apparently being high and manic is pretty common on this drug. 

I hear something interesting the other day that is fact though, and that is that Trump is the only person ever to have received this particular combination of treatments.   It seems incredible to me that they would take such a risk. 


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2020, 08:28:54 AM »
One of the big side effects of Dexamethasone is clearly stated as “Trumpism”.
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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2020, 10:14:34 AM »
Having been on that steroid as a part of treatments, likely at a lower dose than Trump received, I can confirm that feeling like a millions bucks with a short temper are definitely a side effect. Delirium is another one.

I don't know how they let him stay in charge of the country while going through this treatment honestly.


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2020, 12:39:33 AM »
Seriously. I actively dislike Pence. But he needs to be in charge right now.


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2020, 01:42:18 PM »
Having been on that steroid as a part of treatments, likely at a lower dose than Trump received, I can confirm that feeling like a millions bucks with a short temper are definitely a side effect. Delirium is another one.

I don't know how they let him stay in charge of the country while going through this treatment honestly.

The GOP won't move against him no matter what he does.  After Senator Mike Lee recently came out and said that “Democracy isn’t the objective; liberty, peace, and prospefity (sic) are. We want the human condition to flourish. Rank democracy can thwart that,”  He went on to say that democracy is not even mentioned the Constitution

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/08/republican-us-senator-mike-lee-democracy

I was so surprised to hear that democracy is not mentioned in the Constitution that I downloaded a copy in PDF format and had a read, plus searched all 13 pages using the find function. No mention of democracy or democratically elected etc.  Right in the first Article it says that the members of the House and Senate (as well as the President) shall be appointed by the Electors (from the Electoral College who are appointed by the various States).  The Constitution was written by and for rich land-owning white men and only those folks had the right to vote anyway. Unless one of the amendments has changed this then the Electors in the Electoral College are not democratically elected but are still appointed by the State.

Trump's best hope for retaining control is to declare the election invalid and then then have the State Governors instruct the Electors to vote for who they think would have won in a fair election. The swing States are the important ones and have Republican Governors, then if it goes to the Supreme Court he will have a supermajority (6-3) of right wing justices, the last 3 having been appointed by him.

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"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of
Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be
entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust
or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."

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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2020, 05:23:21 PM »
Has anybody else listened to the crazy call Trump just had with Hannity?   He's off the rails and going to cuckoo land.  They must have transferred power to Pence in secret becuase you don't have to be a doctor to diagnose that as %100-high-as-a-kite crazy. 



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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2020, 06:41:50 PM »
Has anybody else listened to the crazy call Trump just had with Hannity?   He's off the rails and going to cuckoo land.  They must have transferred power to Pence in secret becuase you don't have to be a doctor to diagnose that as %100-high-as-a-kite crazy.

No, just had a quick look and couldn’t find it. Do you have a link you could share?
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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2020, 06:49:04 PM »
No, just had a quick look and couldn’t find it. Do you have a link you could share?

Same!


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2020, 07:53:25 PM »
"'High As A Giraffe's Ass': Trump's Rambling Hannity Call Torched On Twitter" https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-hannity-call-reactions_n_5f7fe475c5b664e5babb77bb

Pelosi is trying to invoke the 25th amendment, but since Congress is out of session there's not much she can do. Trump has laid bare all of the problems of the constitution and powers of Congress.


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2020, 08:21:10 PM »
"'High As A Giraffe's Ass': Trump's Rambling Hannity Call Torched On Twitter" https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-hannity-call-reactions_n_5f7fe475c5b664e5babb77bb

Pelosi is trying to invoke the 25th amendment, but since Congress is out of session there's not much she can do. Trump has laid bare all of the problems of the constitution and powers of Congress.

Thanks for the link.

Pelosi insists that it is a bipartisan panel she wants setting up to  discuss a framework of what to do in future for when Presidents become sick or incapacitated and refuse to hand over temporary power, like Reagan  voluntarily did  after he was shot and Bush did before he had a colonoscopy. She does have a point, no President has ever been “relieved of power” while sick by the VP and we have never faced such a situation before. I think she is wanting to start this commission now, led by the VP,  just to get under his skin even more than she does now.
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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2020, 10:41:22 AM »
There's so much crazy that it's hard to pick.  I like this one:
"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water." -- Trump


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Re: Trump gets Covid
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2020, 03:32:57 PM »
There's so much crazy that it's hard to pick.  I like this one:
"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water." -- Trump

Ah. Yes, that old one.  They won't allow dams to be built on a river in a sensitive habitat because it would kill endangered species of fish. So all that water just goes where it has always gone, out to sea.

California may have to ration water (again) because the farmers in the central valley are using obscene amounts of water to raise the produce that is shipped all over the country to feed people. And then there are the vineyards that go in and drop the water tables in the vicinity so much that people's wells go dry. And almond trees. They are not native to California and they suck up amazing amounts of water.  All of the above in the name of "free enterprise".  Vast swaths of the land are arid and semi-arid. They've already diverted the Colorado River to the point that it no longer flows into Mexico and the Gulf of California. Add to that the huge population (that really shouldn't be there, as the land can't support that kind of number), the cycle in the SW USA of decades of drought that have historically come and gone, and the global warming scenario....  They're ultimately screwed, unless they do some spectacular interventions.  The rich folks won't be, of course. It's going to hit the poor and later the working classes hardest.

But yeah, that one river isn't going to keep them from having to ration water.  ::)


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