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Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« on: October 27, 2020, 05:14:15 PM »
Hi everyone,

Me again - I’ve been very active on this forum recently in preparing to apply for the FLR. Thanks for the support :)

I have a question regarding proof of residence...

My husband and I have bought a new build house. We secured purchase in January.

In order to provide evidence of where we live, we requested the title sheet of the land documents from our solicitor. We were met with this reply:
How should we proceed and what option would be best in providing UKVI with proof of our address?

“Unfortunately, as the property was a new build, it can take up to 24 months to complete with the Land Register of Scotland. The title sheet would only show that you owned the property, rather than lived there. I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?

Another option may be that I certify some documents you have with your address on it, such as a driving licence or utility bill? Or, I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2020, 05:20:31 PM »
Hi everyone,

Me again - I’ve been very active on this forum recently in preparing to apply for the FLR. Thanks for the support :)

I have a question regarding proof of residence...

My husband and I have bought a new build house. We secured purchase in January.

In order to provide evidence of where we live, we requested the title sheet of the land documents from our solicitor. We were met with this reply:
How should we proceed and what option would be best in providing UKVI with proof of our address?

“Unfortunately, as the property was a new build, it can take up to 24 months to complete with the Land Register of Scotland. The title sheet would only show that you owned the property, rather than lived there. I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?

Another option may be that I certify some documents you have with your address on it, such as a driving licence or utility bill? Or, I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you.


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There are two separate requirements at play here.

1- The accommodation requirement. In this case, you need to prove you own the property you are living in. Send the proof of ownership that your lawyer suggested.

2-The correspondence requirement which is part of the relationship requirement and consists of 6 joint equivalent pieces of mail, from at least 3 different sources, received by you at the same address over the prior two year period.
They must have come to you through the post, certification is not necessary.



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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2020, 05:46:28 PM »
There are two separate requirements at play here.

1- The accommodation requirement. In this case, you need to prove you own the property you are living in. Send the proof of ownership that your lawyer suggested.

2-The correspondence requirement which is part of the relationship requirement and consists of 6 joint equivalent pieces of mail, from at least 3 different sources, received by you at the same address over the prior two year period.
They must have come to you through the post, certification is not necessary.
Thanks Larrabee.

The question I have is in relation to the first point re: accommodation requirement.

Which option listed by my solicitor would be the best?
She listed a few, which are:

-“The title sheet would only show that you owned the property, rather than lived there. I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?”
- “Another option may be that I certify some documents you have with your address on it, such as a driving licence or utility bill?”
OR
-“I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2020, 05:48:20 PM »
Just to add - our solicitor is giving us these options because Unfortunately, as the property was a new build, it can take up to 24 months to complete with the Land Register of Scotland.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2020, 05:48:57 PM »
Thanks Larrabee.

The question I have is in relation to the first point re: accommodation requirement.

Which option listed by my solicitor would be the best?
She listed a few, which are:

-“The title sheet would only show that you owned the property, rather than lived there. I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?”
- “Another option may be that I certify some documents you have with your address on it, such as a driving licence or utility bill?”
OR
-“I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”


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I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?

AND

“I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2020, 05:50:07 PM »
Just to add - our solicitor is giving us these options because Unfortunately, as the property was a new build, it can take up to 24 months to complete with the Land Register of Scotland.


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That's OK, you need to send proof of ownership and your solicitor as suggested ways to provide this.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2020, 06:07:41 PM »
Thanks Larrabee. Are you suggesting we take up our solicitor for both of the options you’ve outlined?
Also, do you think this evidence produced from our solicitor (the options you’ve said would be best) would be sufficient for UKVI?


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2020, 06:31:20 PM »
Thanks Larrabee. Are you suggesting we take up our solicitor for both of the options you’ve outlined?
Also, do you think this evidence produced from our solicitor (the options you’ve said would be best) would be sufficient for UKVI?

You have to provide two sets of documents here:

1. Accommodation Requirement
Evidence you own the property:
- Land Registry document (the Title sheet)
Evidence of your monthly accommodation costs:
- your latest mortgage statement
- your latest council tax bill

2. Cohabitation Requirement
- 6 documents in each of your names, addressed to you both at the same address covering the last 2 years to show you have been living together
- they must be evenly-spaced, every 4 months
- they must be from at least 3 official sources and have been received in the mail
- they can either be jointly-addressed (6 in total - 1 each from each 4-month period), separately-addressed (12 documents in total - 1 each from each 4-month period), or a combination of both

For the cohabitation requirement, the following are examples of documents you can use:
- mortgage statements
- tenancy agreements
- bank statements
- water bills
- electricity bills
- council tax bills
- TV licence
- letters from the NHS, HMRC, DVLA, DWP etc.
- phone bills
- TV/internet bills
- credit card statements


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2020, 06:38:57 PM »
Thanks Larrabee. Are you suggesting we take up our solicitor for both of the options you’ve outlined?
Also, do you think this evidence produced from our solicitor (the options you’ve said would be best) would be sufficient for UKVI?



For the portion of the requirements which involves proving you own the property, because the registration process is not complete, I would send both.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2020, 06:54:40 PM »
I can send you an acknowledgement received from Registers of Scotland from 4th February 2020 confirming that they have received the application to register the property and it is currently undergoing registration?

AND

“I could send you a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into your name?”
Thanks for your replies folks.

If we can get the title sheet, would this be sufficient (and without the need of the other 2 options as LarraBee suggested we go forward with - attached here)?

If we can’t get the title sheet, do we need to then provide BOTH of the options that Larrabee has suggested (from our solicitor) or would one be adequate?

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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2020, 07:34:59 PM »
Thanks for your replies folks.

If we can get the title sheet, would this be sufficient (and without the need of the other 2 options as LarraBee suggested we go forward with - attached here)?

If we can’t get the title sheet, do we need to then provide BOTH of the options that Larrabee has suggested (from our solicitor) or would one be adequate?

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Sorry, didn’t read it all thoroughly.

As larrabee said, provide both.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2020, 10:01:38 PM »
Hi folks,

I realise this post comes 2+ weeks after I originally posted, but I’ve got an update. For proof that we own the address we’re living in, I’ve asked our solicitor for the following 3 pieces of info:

- a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into our names (as you’ve highlighted previously);
- a copy of the acknowledgment received from Registers of Scotland when the application was submitted, confirming that it is undergoing registration;
- signed cover letter explaining that because our house is a new build it can take up to 24 months for the title sheet to be completed and returned... certified by our solicitor.

We can’t obtain the title sheet because Land Registers of Scotland can take up to 24 months to complete this form for new builds. Would this be sufficient evidence in meeting the proof of ownership of accommodation requirement for the FLR?

Thank you!


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2020, 05:17:39 AM »
Hi folks,

I realise this post comes 2+ weeks after I originally posted, but I’ve got an update. For proof that we own the address we’re living in, I’ve asked our solicitor for the following 3 pieces of info:

- a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into our names (as you’ve highlighted previously);
- a copy of the acknowledgment received from Registers of Scotland when the application was submitted, confirming that it is undergoing registration;
- signed cover letter explaining that because our house is a new build it can take up to 24 months for the title sheet to be completed and returned... certified by our solicitor.

We can’t obtain the title sheet because Land Registers of Scotland can take up to 24 months to complete this form for new builds. Would this be sufficient evidence in meeting the proof of ownership of accommodation requirement for the FLR?

Thank you!


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That is perfect.


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2020, 09:28:59 AM »
That is perfect.
Thank you, larrabee. Hopefully our solicitor will oblige!
Is there anything else I might be missing?


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Re: Proof of residence question for FLR(m)
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2020, 02:23:27 PM »
Hi folks,

I realise this post comes 2+ weeks after I originally posted, but I’ve got an update. For proof that we own the address we’re living in, I’ve asked our solicitor for the following 3 pieces of info:

- a copy of the deed that is currently being registered at Regiseters of Scotland showing that the property was transferred into our names (as you’ve highlighted previously);
- a copy of the acknowledgment received from Registers of Scotland when the application was submitted, confirming that it is undergoing registration;
- signed cover letter explaining that because our house is a new build it can take up to 24 months for the title sheet to be completed and returned... certified by our solicitor.

We can’t obtain the title sheet because Land Registers of Scotland can take up to 24 months to complete this form for new builds. Would this be sufficient evidence in meeting the proof of ownership of accommodation requirement for the FLR?

Thank you!


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Hi everyone

Further to the point above, I was wondering if the 3 bits of materials bulleted above had to be dated within 28 days of application submission. This includes: cover letter from solicitor, copy of acknowledgment received from registers of Scotland confirming that new-build property is undergoing registration, and lastly copy of deed being registered through registers of Scotland showing that the property is being transferred over into our names.

I think I remember from the first spouse visa that certain documents had to be dated within a certain time frame of 28 days??

Please correct me if I’m wrong!


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