FLR(M) - applying in January - questions

Finalized things for the employer letter to be done tomorrow but still want to see if the summary statement is ok or do we need to list every week’s payslip in the letter?

We’re submitting around 24 payslips.  If I do have to list them, can I put them in a table with 2 columns to reduce the size of the letter?

It's best if they are listed. Putting them in a table sounds like a good idea. 

Thank you @larrabee 

Ok, here's the final draft. Missing anything?

To Whom It May Concern:
11/01/2021
Ref:   Sponsor name – Employer Letter
Please find the following information as requested:

Mr. X has been employed as a xx with our company for 3 years and 10 months. He began his employment on xx xx xx. He currently earns an hourly rate of £xx.xx with a guarantee of xx hours per week and any additional overtime hours paid in at time and third.  His employment is permanent and he is non-salaried. I can verify that the details listed on Mr. X's P60 are correct.

Mr. X was placed on furlough in our company due to COVID-19 from 30 March 2020 until 26 June 2020. His last furloughed payslip is dated 3 July 2020. During his furlough, he was paid 80% of his wage at £xx.xx. After 26 June 2020, he resumed his normal rate of 100% (£xx.xx).

I can confirm that the payslips provided by Mr. X are authentic originals and reflect his pay. These payslips are provided directly to the employee from Name of accounting firm, address of firm and are on behalf of company name Ltd. The payslips are verified as follows:

Payslip date   Gross pay  Net pay  Date deposited into bank
05/06/2020   XX XX   03/06/2020
12/06/2020   XX XX   10/06/2020
19/06/2020   XX XX   17/06/2020
26/06/2020   XX XX   24/06/2020
03/07/2020   XX XX   01/07/2020
10/07/2020   XX XX   08/07/2020
17/07/2020   XX XX   15/07/2020
24/07/2020   XX XX   22/07/2020
31/07/2020   XX XX   29/07/2020
07/08/2020   XX XX   05/08/2020
14/08/2020   XX XX   12/08/2020
21/08/2020   XX XX   19/08/2020
28/08/2020   XX XX     26/08/2020
04/09/2020   XX XX   02/09/2020
11/09/2020   XX XX   09/09/2020
18/09/2020   XX XX   16/09/2020
25/09/2020   XX XX   23/09/2020
02/10/2020   XX XX   30/09/2020
09/10/2020   XX XX   07/10/2020
16/10/2020   XX XX    14/10/2020
23/10/2020   XX XX   21/10/2020
30/10/2020   XX XX   28/10/2020
06/11/2020   XX XX   04/11/2020
13/11/2020   XX XX   11/11/2020
20/11/2020   XX XX   18/11/2020
27/11/2020   XX XX   25/11/2020
04/12/2020   XX XX   02/12/2020
11/12/2020   XX XX   09/12/2020
18/12/2020   XXX XXX   16/12/2020
 
All payslips are dated the day the accounting firm prints the payslips but the employee’s pay is actually deposited two working days prior. The 18/12/2020 pay included the employee’s unused holiday pay for the year.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further information.
Yours sincerely,
XX XX
Company Owner/Director
 

Also we're almost at the deadline of being able to use the December payslip, so I need to get the online application done before Wednesday.

Is it OK to do the application before my passport is back? I had sent it away first of December for the name to be changed.

I know I scan and upload everything before my Biometrics appointment and the passport has been sent back to the embassy to be mailed to me, but I've been trying to wait on it before I did the application.

Any help is always appreciated

Post has run today and still no passport. Anyone be able to review my letter and question in the previous post? Think I'll get the application done tomorrow if all is OK. TIA

Also we're almost at the deadline of being able to use the December payslip, so I need to get the online application done before Wednesday.

Is it OK to do the application before my passport is back? I had sent it away first of December for the name to be changed.

I know I scan and upload everything before my Biometrics appointment and the passport has been sent back to the embassy to be mailed to me, but I've been trying to wait on it before I did the application.

Any help is always appreciated

Also we're almost at the deadline of being able to use the December payslip, so I need to get the online application done before Wednesday.

Is it OK to do the application before my passport is back? I had sent it away first of December for the name to be changed.

Someone else had a similar situation a year or two ago where their visa was expiring and they had to submit their online application, but they didn't have their new passport back yet.

They applied online using their old passport details, then included both the old and new passports with the application, along with a cover letter explaining that they had not received the new passport at the time of applying online. I believe it all worked out fine.

I know I scan and upload everything before my Biometrics appointment and the passport has been sent back to the embassy to be mailed to me, but I've been trying to wait on it before I did the application.

Don't forget that you also have the option to add 'Document Scanning' to your biometrics appointment for £50 when you book it, and they will scan and upload all your documents for you at the appointment, instead of you doing it yourself at home.

Thank you @ksand24. Would it still be fine to do either different last names?

My passport details i have from my old passport are in my maiden name and the new passport in my married name. I got it changed so I could get this visa in my married name.

Thank you @ksand24. Would it still be fine to do either different last names?

My passport details i have from my old passport are in my maiden name and the new passport in my married name. I got it changed so I could get this visa in my married name.

Hmm, well, your visa can only be issued in the name on your current passport - so that will be your married name. However, the online application must also be filled out in the exact name on your current passport as well. But you don't have the passport yet, so you won't know exactly how your name is printed on it. So, I don't know if you should fill out the application in your married name or your maiden name.

As your BRP does not expire until February 7th, personally, I would advise waiting until you get your passport back before submitting the online application. You would just need to adjust your payslips and bank statements, and the employer letter accordingly.

Actually, from what you have posted above, it looks like he gets paid weekly, so why are you only including the payslips up to December 16th? What about the payslips from December 25th, January 1st and January 8th? Those need to be included as well.

Weekly payslips also mean you have much more flexibility over when you apply because your latest payslip will always be within 7 days of when you apply online.

Which means there's no need to apply in the next 2 days for the deadline, because all you have to do is add in the payslips (and bank statements) issued after December 16th in order to give yourself more time to apply.

As you know that your passport is on its way, you can just wait a few more days and apply next week instead, using all the payslips (and bank statements) dated up to this week's payslip. Or if it doesn't arrive by then, you can apply the week after that.

OK ill just wait then.

His work paid everyone for Christmas early as they were closed (construction closes for 2 weeks for christmas). I could get them to include that on the letter and add his latest payslip but it wouldn't be shown on the bank statement I have.

And our post is so slow just now I can contact the bank and see if they'll give me a partial statement to show the latest payslip.

Still hopeful my passport comes tomorrow though   

OK ill just wait then.

His work paid everyone for Christmas early as they were closed (construction closes for 2 weeks for christmas). I could get them to include that on the letter and add his latest payslip but it wouldn't be shown on the bank statement I have.

And our post is so slow just now I can contact the bank and see if they'll give me a partial statement to show the latest payslip.

Since banks are allowed to open during lockdown, you should be able to just go into the branch and ask them to print it for you then and there.

Do we have to submit his job contract?

Depending on when my passport shows, I can have the employment letter updated, latest payslips printed, statement printed at the bank to show latest payslip deposited.

I have :

all my correspondence (list posted earlier in the thread)
Husbands current passport
My current and old passport (when they show up)
My brp
Marriage certificate
Land registry (newest one I printed doesn’t say land registry on it, but says title...the information is exactly the same as the land registry I already had)
Latest mortgage statement
Latest council tax bill
bank statements  (we will use category A)
Weekly payslips
Employment letter (posted earlier but updated with newest payslips, explanation about no pay for the 2 weeks during Christmas and New Years)

I’m I missing anything?

Do we have to submit his job contract?

You don't HAVE to, but if you have it, we recommend including it, because the Appendix FM 1.7 guidance says that they can ask to see the job contract and latest P60... so if you send it initially, they don't have to ask you for it later.

Just going to rearrange your document list into the different upload sections:

Application Documents
- My current and old passport (when they show up)
- Signed declarations and consent to checks forms (part of the online application)

Proof of Identity/Travel History
- Husbands current passport
- My brp

Residence in the UK
Accommodation
- Land registry
- Latest mortgage statement
- Latest council tax bill
Cohabitation
- all my correspondence (list posted earlier in the thread)

Finances
- bank statements  (we will use category A)
- Weekly payslips
- Employment letter (posted earlier but updated with newest payslips, explanation about no pay for the 2 weeks during Christmas and New Years)
Optional but Recommended:
- job contract
- latest P60

Other
- Marriage certificate

I’m I missing anything?

Looks pretty good to me.

There are a couple of other things that may not be applicable to you, but I'll put them below just in case they are:

Other
- Divorce decrees if either of you have been previously married
If either of you have any children living in the UK, you also need:
- each child's passport
- each child's birth certificate
- letter(s) dated in the last 3 months confirming each child's address (i.e. from their GP or school)

Thank you as always  I’ve turned the house upside down looking for the job contract and cannot find it. I will look again just to make sure. This is the first marriage for both of us and no children so the last bit won’t apply for us. 

You don't HAVE to, but if you have it, we recommend including it, because the Appendix FM 1.7 guidance says that they can ask to see the job contract and latest P60... so if you send it initially, they don't have to ask you for it later.

Optional but Recommended:
- job contract
- latest P60

Looks pretty good to me.

There are a couple of other things that may not be applicable to you, but I'll put them below just in case they are:

Other
- Divorce decrees if either of you have been previously married
If either of you have any children living in the UK, you also need:
- each child's passport
- each child's birth certificate
- letter(s) dated in the last 3 months confirming each child's address (i.e. from their GP or school)

Thank you as always  I’ve turned the house upside down looking for the job contract and cannot find it. I will look again just to make sure.

If you can't find the job contract, don't worry. It's not that important... just one of those: "if you have it handy, you might as well include it" things.

For the partial statement, does it need to be stamped by a bank official? We are heading there tomorrow as I think my passport maybe coming back tomorrow.

If so, I’ll do the online application tomorrow.  Husband’s employer will have the updated letter done and they have the 2 missing payslips I needed from the accounting firm.