FLR(M) process and document comfirmation

Hi all. it's that time again when the stress of applying for the visa sets in. So wondering if you guys can confirm the details below on how i think i will be able to extend my wife's visa as it has 6 months remaining on her BRP. So

>we married in sept 2018 in india. Indian marriage and certificate
>Her BRP expires 2nd Week of September 2021
>She came to the UK in  end of December 2018
>We had our first boy in september 2019
i know september seems to be our month
>shes held couple of jobs for a very short period for 2.5 years
>She does not pay any bills.
> I used to co-own a property with my sister but now she is the sole owner and we live with her.
> I have  been working over a year and exceed the financial requirements.

So this is the process i am thinking of following in terms of application and documents.

Application online to be filled in August 2021. With fees paid for both including IHS. print documents

collect documents which are:

Our sons birth certificate. Passport copies then authenticate at royalmail
our passports. then authenticate at royalmail.
6x salary payslips, original contract, letter from my company with everything in relation to salary in august to meet 28 days or less
sponser form
land registry print out in august with my sisters name and a signed letter from her.
6x bank statements stamped by my bank in august
6x bank statements of my wife stamped by her bank in august

Now she doesnt get that many letters and has only held only couple of short jobs. I have printed her payslips and contracts from those two jobs. But not been authenticated.
Bank statements from Jan 2019 to august 2021 with 4 month gap for both of us. We dont have anything in joint name
photos of us over 2.5 years and any holidays we been on.

Any NHS letters with my wifes name.
I only pay phone bills so i can include them however, again all online printed. i am also thinking of including statements from my second bank account.

original marriage certificate from india
She graduated in mba from greenwich internation university in amsterdam in 2017. using this as english language requirement.

Form filled, payment receipts, ihs surcharge receipts,
Join UKVAS
upload documents in august
book biometrics through UKVAS in august.


what do you guys think?

Welcome to the forum .

Okay, so she can apply for her next visa up to 28 days before she reaches 30 months in the UK. If she arrived in the UK at the end of December 2018, then she will reach 30 months at the end of June 2021.

So, that means the earliest she can apply for FLR(M) will be the beginning of June 2021... the exact date she can apply will depend on the date in June that she reaches 30 months.

The latest date she can apply is the expiry date of her current visa - so the 2nd week in September 2021.

So this is the process i am thinking of following in terms of application and documents.

Application online to be filled in August 2021. With fees paid for both including IHS. print documents

As per the dates above, you can actually apply at any time between the beginning of June and mid-September, so you don't need to wait until August if you don't want to.

The documents you will need (organised into the various upload sections on the UVKCAS website) are (comments are in blue, missing documents are in red):

Application Documents
- Full scan of your wife's current passport - does not need to be certified
- Full scan of any other passports your wife has held since moving to the UK - does not need to be certified
- Sponsor's declaration (part of online application)
- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by your wife  (part of online application)
- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by you  (part of online application)

Proof of Identity/Travel History
- Your UK passport (full scan) - does not need to be certified
- Your wife's BRP card

Finances
- 6 full months of your payslips... usually 7 months' worth are required to cover every single day of the 6 months
- 6 full months of YOUR bank statements showing every payslip deposit.. usually 7 months' worth are required to cover every single day of the 6 months. You do not need your wife's bank statements for the financial requirement.
- letter from your employer... if your payslips are electronic, the letter must also verify them
- your job contract
- your latest P60

Residence in the UK
Accommodation
Proof of homeownership
- land registry print out in august with my sisters name
- a signed letter from her confirming you have permission to live there
Proof of monthly housing costs
- latest mortgage statement (if she has a mortgage)
- latest council tax bill
Co-habitation
- 6 items of mail in each of your names, spread evenly over the last 2 years before applying, from at least 3 official sources.
- each item must be original (not printed) and received in the post in the month it was issued
- they should be dated every 4 months
- if you don't have enough, or they are not evenly-spaced, or you don't have 3 sources, you need to write an explanation for why not
- letter from your sister confirming you have been living with her for the last 2 years
Say you apply in August, you will need 1 original mailed document in each name from each of the following months:
August 2019
December 2019
April 2020
August 2020
December 2020
April 2021
August 2021

Other
Marriage evidence
- Your marriage certificate
English Language Requirement
- Your wife's degree certificate from the Greenwich International University in Amsterdam
- NARIC certificate confirming the degree was taught in English (https://www.naric.org.uk/Qualifications/VAN/Default.aspx)
Documents for your son
- Your sons birth certificate.
- Your son's UK passport (scanned copy)... if he has a passport - does not need to be certified
- A letter dated in the last 3 months confirming your son's address (i.e. from his GP)

Thanks Ksand24 . Very informative and useful info thanks so much. apologies i forgot the things but you have highlighted them very clearly. With the CO-habitation. i was going to use her job contract, payslips, NHS letters, her bank statements as 3 official sources but like you mentioned should be original and sent home. Thanks again ive got some thinking to do

Thanks Ksand24 . Very informative and useful info thanks so much. apologies i forgot the things but you have highlighted them very clearly. With the CO-habitation. i was going to use her job contract, payslips, NHS letters, her bank statements as 3 official sources but like you mentioned should be original and sent home. Thanks again ive got some thinking to do

You only need 3 sources between you - it doesn’t matter whether they are in your name or hers, as long as there are at least 3 in total.

I’m not sure if you can use her job contract or payslips though... they would need to have her address on them and have been mailed to your house in the same months as the documents you are using in your name.

Examples of acceptable documents that you can use are:
• Letters or other documents from government departments or agencies, for example HM Revenue and Customs, Department for Work and Pensions, DVLA, TV Licensing.
• Letters or other documents from your GP, a hospital or other local health service about medical treatments, appointments, home visits or other medical matters
• Bank statements/letters
• Building society savings books/letters
• Council tax bills or statements
• Electricity and/or gas bills or statements
• Water rates bills or statements
• Mortgage statements/agreement
• Tenancy agreement(s)
• Telephone bills or statements


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thanks you for your reply. Much appreciated. I am now collecting all the co-habitation evidence. No doubt i will struggle with letters for my wife. One thought comes to my mind in regards to bank statements. lets say we misplaced the statements from couple of years ago and then requested them again through the post. Surely it will be the same thing as it would have been posted couple of years. I mean the bank won;t issue a statement if it didn't exist back then. Just wondering more than anything.

Hopefully all goes smooth and as always this forums the best.

thanks you for your reply. Much appreciated. I am now collecting all the co-habitation evidence. No doubt i will struggle with letters for my wife. One thought comes to my mind in regards to bank statements. lets say we misplaced the statements from couple of years ago and then requested them again through the post. Surely it will be the same thing as it would have been posted couple of years. I mean the bank won;t issue a statement if it didn't exist back then. Just wondering more than anything.

Hopefully all goes smooth and as always this forums the best.

Anything like that where you have a document resent, it will count for the time it arrives (now) rather than the time period it covers (then).

OK guys this is how far I've gotten.


Wife arrived on 29th Dec 2018 so aiming for the 15th June 2021 to complete the online application.


Application Documents
- Full scan of your wife's current passport - does not need to be certified - Done in grey scale 200 dpi PDF
- Full scan of any other passports your wife has held since moving to the UK - does not need to be certified She doesn't have any other passports
- Sponsor's declaration (part of online application) Will do on 15th June 2021
- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by your wife  (part of online application)  Will do on 15th June 2021
- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by you  (part of online application) Will do on 15th June 2021
Whats part 2 and 3, been reading this on other posts
Proof of Identity/Travel History
- Your UK passport (full scan) - does not need to be certified  Done in grey scale 200 dpi PDF
- Your wife's BRP card Done in grey scale 200 dpi PDF front and back

Finances
- 6 full months of your payslips... usually 7 months' worth are required to cover every single day of the 6 months Will add nov, dec, jan, feb, mar, april, may slips all electronics but HR to provide cover letter
- 6 full months of YOUR bank statements showing every payslip deposit.. usually 7 months' worth are required to cover every single day of the 6 months. You do not need your wife's bank statements for the financial requirement. received copy statements in post covering till dec 2020. will get remaining via request from online to be sent by post. Will include nov, dec, jan, feb, mar, april, may, june statements
- letter from your employer... if your payslips are electronic, the letter must also verify them Will request on 01st June 2021
- your job contract  i have original printed contract
- your latest P60 available in april electronically. cover letter by employer to authenticate on 1st June 2021

Residence in the UK
Accommodation
Proof of homeownership
- land registry print out in august with my sisters name Will print on 1st of June 2021
- a signed letter from her confirming you have permission to live there  letter drafted and for her to sign on 1st of June 2021
Proof of monthly housing costs
- latest mortgage statement (if she has a mortgage) i told her to get it this month. if this isnt enough i have a solicitor letter confirming trasfer of equity from me to her alone
- latest council tax bill Will get this month march 2021

Co-habitation
- 6 items of mail in each of your names, spread evenly over the last 2 years before applying, from at least 3 official sources.
- each item must be original (not printed) and received in the post in the month it was issued
- they should be dated every 4 months
- if you don't have enough, or they are not evenly-spaced, or you don't have 3 sources, you need to write an explanation for why not
- letter from your sister confirming you have been living with her for the last 2 years
.
so far i have 

HSBC letter for my wife 8 march 21 to confirm she held account since jan 2019

June 2021- Wife-
June 2021-Husband-

Feb 2021 wife- NHS letter
Feb 2021 Husband- AA loan payed off statement

Jan 2021 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
Jan 2021 Husband- home insurance cancellation

Nov 2020  wife- NHS letter
Nov 2020 Husband- Metropolitan police letter

MAY 2020 wife- Legal and General pension plan
MAY 2020 Husband- Student finance SFC letter

June 2020 Wife - NHS letter
June 2020 husband - Barclay finance settlement letter


March 2020 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
March 2020 Husband- council tax letter

Dec 2019 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
Dec 2019 Husband - hm and revenue & customs letter

August 2019 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )  Also have discharge papers for my son this month
August 2019 Husband- Council planning permission

June 2019 Wife- Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )  Also have midwife signed slip visiting home address.
June 2019 Husband- Council tax reminder

March 2019 Wife - National insurance letter
March 2019 Husband - electric bill

Jan 2019 Wife - Provisional licence letter
Jan 2019 Husband- Water bill.


This is all i have so far to be honest

 

Other
Marriage evidence
- Your marriage certificate Original from India used previously to apply will scan that this month 
English Language Requirement
- Your wife's degree certificate from the Greenwich International University in Amsterdam its actually from Greenwich UK and her transcript says degree taught in english so i wont use NARIC. this was previously used for entry 
- NARIC certificate confirming the degree was taught in English (https://www.naric.org.uk/Qualifications/VAN/Default.aspx) not going to use
Documents for your son
- Your sons birth certificate. scanned grey scale 200 dpi PDF
- Your son's UK passport (scanned copy)... if he has a passport - does not need to be certified. scanned grey scale 200 dpi PDF
- A letter dated in the last 3 months confirming your son's address (i.e. from his GP). Will be requesting end of this month

- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by your wife  (part of online application)  Will do on 15th June 2021
- Part 1 consent to checks form signed by you  (part of online application) Will do on 15th June 2021
Whats part 2 and 3, been reading this on other posts

Sorry, that second one should be Part 2... I copied and pasted and forgot to change Part 1 to Part 2.

Part 1 is Consent to Checks on the applicant.. so the applicant signs it

Part 2 is Consent to Checks on anyone else jointly named on any documents you are including... so usually the sponsor signs it, but if you live with other people and they are named on any of your documents, they have to sign it too. So, if your sister is named on the Land Registry and/or anything else, she will need to sign Part 2 as well.

Part 3 is Consent to Checks on third party financial sponsors... however, you are not allowed to use a third party financial sponsor, so no one signs this one

so far i have 

HSBC letter for my wife 8 march 21 to confirm she held account since jan 2019

June 2021- Wife-
June 2021-Husband-

Feb 2021 wife- NHS letter
Feb 2021 Husband- AA loan payed off statement

Jan 2021 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
Jan 2021 Husband- home insurance cancellation

Nov 2020  wife- NHS letter
Nov 2020 Husband- Metropolitan police letter

MAY 2020 wife- Legal and General pension plan
MAY 2020 Husband- Student finance SFC letter

June 2020 Wife - NHS letter
June 2020 husband - Barclay finance settlement letter

March 2020 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
March 2020 Husband- council tax letter

Dec 2019 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )
Dec 2019 Husband - hm and revenue & customs letter

August 2019 wife-  Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )  Also have discharge papers for my son this month
August 2019 Husband- Council planning permission

June 2019 Wife- Dublicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )  Also have midwife signed slip visiting home address.
June 2019 Husband- Council tax reminder

March 2019 Wife - National insurance letter
March 2019 Husband - electric bill

Jan 2019 Wife - Provisional licence letter
Jan 2019 Husband- Water bill.


This is all i have so far to be honest

 

Okay, so from the documents you've listed, you can use:

June 2019
1. Applicant:  midwife signed slip visiting home address. (Source 1)
1. Sponsor: Council tax reminder (Source 2)

October 2019
2. Applicant: ?
2. Sponsor: ?

February 2020
3. Applicant: March 2019 - National insurance letter (Source 3)
3. Sponsor: March 2019 - electric bill (Source 4)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

June 2020
4. Applicant: NHS letter
4. Sponsor: Barclay finance settlement letter (Source 5)

October 2020
5. Applicant:  Nov 2020 NHS letter
5. Sponsor: Nov 2020 Metropolitan police letter (Source 6)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

February 2021
6. Applicant: NHS letter
6. Sponsor: AA loan payed off statement (Source 5)

June 2021
7. Applicant: TBD
7. Sponsor: TBD

At the moment, assuming you each receive some mail in June 2021, you will have:
- 6 documents in the applicant's name
- 6 documents in the sponsor's name
- 6 different sources

And if you use the March 2019 and November 2020 documents, that means you're only missing documents from October 2019 (unless you have anything from September or November 2019 you could use instead.

So, you will just need to write a letter of explanation for:
- the March 2019 and November 2020 documents instead of February 2019 and October 2020
- the missing documents in October 2019

Other
Marriage evidence
- Your marriage certificate Original from India used previously to apply will scan that this month 

Just to note that if it is not in English, you will need a translated version as well.

English Language Requirement
- Your wife's degree certificate from the Greenwich International University in Amsterdam its actually from Greenwich UK and her transcript says degree taught in english so i wont use NARIC. this was previously used for entry 
- NARIC certificate confirming the degree was taught in English (https://www.naric.org.uk/Qualifications/VAN/Default.aspx) not going to use

Personally, I would include the NARIC certificate just to be on the safe side.

Okay, so from the documents you've listed, you can use:

June 2019
1. Applicant:  midwife signed slip visiting home address. (Source 1)
1. Sponsor: Council tax reminder (Source 2)

October 2019 the only one i have is for the sponsor which is the planning permission from council and one addressed to parent guardian to the baby. but his surname at the time was same as my wifes.
2. Applicant: ?
2. Sponsor: ?

February 2020 Little confused here. can i use march 2019 documents for feb 2020?.
3. Applicant: March 2019 - National insurance letter (Source 3)
3. Sponsor: March 2019 - electric bill (Source 4)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

June 2020
4. Applicant: NHS letter
4. Sponsor: Barclay finance settlement letter (Source 5)

October 2020
5. Applicant:  Nov 2020 NHS letter
5. Sponsor: Nov 2020 Metropolitan police letter (Source 6)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

February 2021
6. Applicant: NHS letter
6. Sponsor: AA loan payed off statement (Source 5)

June 2021
7. Applicant: TBD Will include latest bank statement due 18th jun 2021
7. Sponsor: TBD will include latest bank statement due 9th june 2021

At the moment, assuming you each receive some mail in June 2021, you will have:
- 6 documents in the applicant's name
- 6 documents in the sponsor's name
- 6 different sources

And if you use the March 2019 and November 2020 documents, that means you're only missing documents from October 2019 (unless you have anything from September or November 2019 you could use instead.

So, you will just need to write a letter of explanation for:
- the March 2019 and November 2020 documents instead of February 2019 and October 2020
- the missing documents in October 2019

Just to note that if it is not in English, you will need a translated version as well. Good point luckily its all english

Personally, I would include the NARIC certificate just to be on the safe side.ok i have now uploaded documents on naric now on checking stage

please check my comments in red and thanks again as always really helpful

October 2019 the only one i have is for the sponsor which is the planning permission from counci. None for the applicant
2. Applicant: ?
2. Sponsor: ?

Okay, include the sponsor document, and then explain in a letter the reason there's no applicant document.

February 2020 Little confused here. can i use march 2019 documents for feb 2020?.
3. Applicant: March 2019 - National insurance letter (Source 3)
3. Sponsor: March 2019 - electric bill (Source 4)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

Sorry, that was me copying and pasting the wrong month. I meant, use what you have for March 2020 instead of February 2020.

So, you would use:

June 2019
1. Applicant:  midwife signed slip visiting home address. (Source 1)
1. Sponsor: Council tax reminder (Source 2)

October 2019
2. Applicant: ?
2. Sponsor: Planning permission from council (Source 3)

February 2020
3. Applicant: March 2020 - Duplicate HSBC statement - (Cover letter to explain )... you're not really supposed to use this as it's a duplicate, but I guess there's no harm if you explain it (Source 4)
3. Sponsor: March 2020 - council tax letter
And include an explanation for why they are from March and not February

June 2020
4. Applicant: NHS letter
4. Sponsor: Barclay finance settlement letter

October 2020
5. Applicant:  Nov 2020 NHS letter
5. Sponsor: Nov 2020 Metropolitan police letter (Source 5)
And include an explanation for why they are from November and not October

February 2021
6. Applicant: NHS letter
6. Sponsor: AA loan payed off statement (Source 56

June 2021
7. Applicant: TBD
7. Sponsor: TBD

Brilliant. Thanks again for lightening quick responses. 

October 2019
2. Applicant: ? I can add a letter addressed to parent/guardian of newborn has my wife's surname
2. Sponsor: Planning permission from council (Source 3)

June 2021
7. Applicant: TBD   HSBC Statement for June 21
7. Sponsor: TBD  HSBC statement for June 21

Hi Ksand. I got Naric status saying the application cannot be processed as the certification has been provided by the uk body so unable to process. I guess in this case I don’t need one then ?

Hi Ksand. I got Naric status saying the application cannot be processed as the certification has been provided by the uk body so unable to process. I guess in this case I don’t need one then ?

I assume not, then.

Thank you.

Hi Guys,  Sorry i have another question probably a silly one but just want to confirm. I usually get online statements so i went on halifax online banking which allowed me to order a set of bank statements. they have come in set of 4 months each time from May 2020 to March 2021 accompanied with a letter to say here are your copy statements. These are on halifax stationary and printed from them and arrived in post.

Would these still require stamping from the bank?

Thanks for your help as always