FLR(M) Visa Questions

I can't believe we're so close to applying for the next visa. We're so grateful for all of the help we received for our initial visa.

We're starting to think about and gather information for what we need for our extension.

I arrived in the UK on 23rd June 2019. My BRP expires in the beginning of March 2022.

We've been gathering mail all of this time and I'm wondering how much we need if we were to apply in December. Would it be one piece each (or joint piece) every 4 months?  And how many different sources are we supposed to provide?

I also was wondering about our rental agreement. Ours was signed by both parties digitally. Is that acceptable?

Thank you in advance.

I arrived in the UK on 23rd June 2019. My BRP expires in the beginning of March 2022.

For info, if you aren’t already aware, you can apply any time from 25th November 2021 through to the expiry date of your BRP in March 2022.

We've been gathering mail all of this time and I'm wondering how much we need if we were to apply in December. Would it be one piece each (or joint piece) every 4 months?  And how many different sources are we supposed to provide?

You need at least 3 different official sources, and yes, you provide 1 item in each name dated every 4 months covering the last 2 years.

For a December application, you can either use mail from November 2019 to November 2021, or from December 2019 to December 2021, depending on if you have any mail from Dec 2021 by the time you apply.

So you would need to use the following months…
either:
Nov 2019
Mar 2020
Jul 2020
Nov 2020
Mar 2021
Jul 2021
Nov 2021

Or:
Dec 2019
Apr 2020
Aug 2020
Dec 2020
Apr 2021
Aug 2021
Dec 2021

I also was wondering about our rental agreement. Ours was signed by both parties digitally. Is that acceptable?

Yes, that should be fine. You just need the rental agreement and your latest council tax bill.


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I can't believe we're so close to applying for the next visa. We're so grateful for all of the help we received for our initial visa.

We're starting to think about and gather information for what we need for our extension.

I arrived in the UK on 23rd June 2019. My BRP expires in the beginning of March 2022.

We've been gathering mail all of this time and I'm wondering how much we need if we were to apply in December. Would it be one piece each (or joint piece) every 4 months?  And how many different sources are we supposed to provide?

I also was wondering about our rental agreement. Ours was signed by both parties digitally. Is that acceptable?

Thank you in advance.

A digitally signed rental agreement is good for the accommodation requirement but won't work for the correspondence requirement.

Yes, one joint piece or two individual pieces every 4 months from at least 3 sources. To have it perfectly spaced, you'll actually need mail from 7 points in time rather than 6 but it's neater that way.

Aw, thank you both so much for your responses. You're very helpful.

I have another question I'm hoping someone could help with,

At my job I am paid hourly and earn above the requirement.

I was offered a promotion that I'm doing as a trial basis for a couple of weeks. I don't think I'm going to stick with it. If I'm paid at a
slightly  higher rate for this ~two week period then go back to my usual hourly rate will that affect me in any way?

I was offered a promotion that I'm doing as a trial basis for a couple of weeks. I don't think I'm going to stick with it. If I'm paid at a
slightly  higher rate for this ~two week period then go back to my usual hourly rate will that affect me in any way?

Nope, it won't affect you.

As you are non-salaried (paid hourly), your previous 6 months of income will be calculated as follows:

All 6 months of pre-tax payslips added together / 6 = average monthly wage
Average monthly wage x 12 = average annual wage

As long as the calculated average annual wage = £18,600 or more, you will meet the requirement, regardless of what hourly wage you were on during the 6 months.

For the employer letter, assuming you go back to your usual wage, they will need to mention that you are NON-SALARIED (this is very important because it will affect how they calculate your income) and they will need to state your usual hourly wage as your current income. If you like, the letter can mention the temporary promotion, but it won't have any bearing on the application as you will not be earning that amount going forward.

Nope, it won't affect you.

As you are non-salaried (paid hourly), your previous 6 months of income will be calculated as follows:

All 6 months of pre-tax payslips added together / 6 = average monthly wage
Average monthly wage x 12 = average annual wage

As long as the calculated average annual wage = £18,600 or more, you will meet the requirement, regardless of what hourly wage you were on during the 6 months.

For the employer letter, assuming you go back to your usual wage, they will need to mention that you are NON-SALARIED (this is very important because it will affect how they calculate your income) and they will need to state your usual hourly wage as your current income. If you like, the letter can mention the temporary promotion, but it won't have any bearing on the application as you will not be earning that amount going forward.

Thank you so much for your response! I was worrying about that. What a load off my mind. Thank you!

Sorry deleted my previous post because I forgot to include a couple of things.

As of right now our tentative plan is to apply in mid-December assuming we have everything we need ready.

So I've been working for my employer for about 11 months now (started in December 2020). For the first three months I was part time then I became full time in March.

My payslips from April to November are all at my full time wage and meet the requirement.

Also last month my job title changed slightly but my pay will be unchanged for the time being. My hourly pay has been the same since the beginning of my employment. The only major change was when I went from part time to full time.

Would something like this work?

To Whom It May Concern

I am writing this letter to confirm that [Name] has been employed with us on an hourly, permanent contract since 11th of December 2020.

He was initially employed part time, however, since 18th of March 2021 has been on a full time contract of 42.5 hours per week. His original job title was as a [Position] but as of 15th October 2021 his current job title is [Position].

His hourly wage is £9.50 per hour and he has been earning this since the start of his employment.

[also include payslip verification as they are emailed to me]

Would something like this work?

To Whom It May Concern

I am writing this letter to confirm that [Name] has been employed with us on an hourly, permanent contract since 11th of December 2020.

He was initially employed part time, however, since 18th of March 2021 has been on a full time contract of 42.5 hours per week. His original job title was as a [Position] but as of 15th October 2021 his current job title is [Position].

His hourly wage is £9.50 per hour and he has been earning this since the start of his employment.

[also include payslip verification as they are emailed to me]

That looks good to me.

The only things I would suggest are:
- explicitly stating in the letter that you are NON-SALARIED (this is important as it can affect how your income is calculated which in turn can affect whether or not you meet the requirements)
- stating the total annual income based on 42.5 hours x £9.50 hours per week  (which will be £20,995), to explicitly state that your annual income is more than £18,600
- take out the 'of' in the dates... you don't need to be that formal. The dates can either be written as: 11th December 2020 or 11/12/2020... either is fine.

So, the letter could say:

To Whom It May Concern

I am writing this letter to confirm that [Name] has been employed with us on a permanent, non-salaried contract since 11th December 2020.

He was initially employed part time, however, since 18th March 2021 has been on a full time contract of 42.5 hours per week with an hourly wage is £9.50 per hour which he has been earning since the start of his employment.  This gives a total annual income of £20,995 per year. His original job title was as a [Position] but as of 15th October 2021 his current job title is [Position].

[also include payslip verification as they are emailed to me]

Yours Faithfully,
[Relevant Name]

That's great thank you so much for your help.

I've read previous advice mentioning that if the date on the payslips is different to the deposit date that should be addressed as well.

All of my payslips say "Month Ending 20 [Month] 2021" at the top. But the actual pay is always deposited into my account on the last third business day of the month.

I'm not sure why. Is the letter just stating that is how they do it good enough or do does there need to be a reason?

Another payslip-related question is that on the top right of the payslip it has the name of the company that is like the parent company of the company I work for.

So on my employment contract it says [company name] but on the payslip is says [parent company]. Is that something that could cause an issue or needs to be addressed?

Thank you for reading.

That's great thank you so much for your help.

I've read previous advice mentioning that if the date on the payslips is different to the deposit date that should be addressed as well.

All of my payslips say "Month Ending 20 [Month] 2021" at the top. But the actual pay is always deposited into my account on the last third business day of the month.

I'm not sure why. Is the letter just stating that is how they do it good enough or do does there need to be a reason?

Your employer needs to state that this is the case so that UKVI don't question why the dates are different.

Another payslip-related question is that on the top right of the payslip it has the name of the company that is like the parent company of the company I work for.

So on my employment contract it says [company name] but on the payslip is says [parent company]. Is that something that could cause an issue or needs to be addressed?

Again, that's for your employer to address in the letter.

So, they might say something like:

'Our payslips are issued through [parent company]. They are dated for [Month Ending 20 [Month] 2021] but are deposited into employee bank accounts on the [last third business day of the month]'

That makes sense to me! Thank you I'll make sure to include that.

I've got a couple more general questions if anyone can help that'd be awesome.

My wife changed her name when we got married but hasn't changed her passport to reflect that. So on everything else she has her married name except her passport. Would we just need to include a copy of our marriage certificate again?

On our mail evidence I'm assuming we need to include every page of each piece, is that right? Also some of our mail are cell phone bills from Three. Is that a suitable source?

Also I saw a post about this recently but when I arrived I was told they no longer stamped passports so I didn't get one. We're trying to find my boarding passes from that day but if we can't would I just submit my printed itinerary?


Thank you for reading

My wife changed her name when we got married but hasn't changed her passport to reflect that. So on everything else she has her married name except her passport. Would we just need to include a copy of our marriage certificate again?

Yes, it’s mandatory to include your marriage certificate as that’s a major part of your proof of relationship.

No marriage certificate will mean a visa refusal.

On our mail evidence I'm assuming we need to include every page of each piece, is that right? Also some of our mail are cell phone bills from Three. Is that a suitable source?

Yes. I would include every page.

And yes, phone bills are listed as acceptable documents.

Also I saw a post about this recently but when I arrived I was told they no longer stamped passports so I didn't get one. We're trying to find my boarding passes from that day but if we can't would I just submit my printed itinerary?

I would think so, though since it was UKVI’s decision not to stamp anymore, hopefully they will have an electronic record of the entry and won’t need to check the boarding pass/flight itinerary.


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Thank you so much for your help, Ksand

Does anyone know if I would be able to use an American credit card to pay for flr(m) fees/IHS surcharge? I'm trying to get some air miles lol.

Thank you so much for your help, Ksand

Does anyone know if I would be able to use an American credit card to pay for flr(m) fees/IHS surcharge? I'm trying to get some air miles lol.

I think you can (as long as the card type is accepted), but you will most likely be charged international transaction/currency conversion fees, so it could end up costing you a lot more to pay with a US card than a UK card.


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