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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 10:02:44 AM »
I moved from what felt like a soulless, sweaty, concrete jungle covered in Wal-Marts and McDonald's drive-thrus to a gorgeous seaside village with rolling green hills and flowers and castles... so why WOULDN'T I want to live here instead of there?!  ;)


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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2010, 10:14:55 AM »
I moved from what felt like a soulless, sweaty, concrete jungle covered in Wal-Marts and McDonald's drive-thrus to a gorgeous seaside village with rolling green hills and flowers and castles... so why WOULDN'T I want to live here instead of there?!  ;)

Plus, the BBC, Radio 4, working in a building that was built before California was a state, sensible amounts of vacation from my job, quick/cheap/easy access to the continent, Badminton Horse Trials!, miles and miles of greenbelt, and for me, a great group of friends.

Maybe this thread should just be about all those things we love about living here! :)


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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2010, 10:47:14 AM »
Maybe this thread should just be about all those things we love about living here! :)

We have a few of those! There's this one:

http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=3338.0

But I can't seem to find the other one just now. Maybe someone else knows where it is....  :)


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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2010, 10:55:03 AM »
I guess the grass is always greener! We have actually had some lovely weather lately (not too hot, not too cold) and although I would always recommend a nice (short) vacation here - you might rethink wanting to live here when the "warm sunshine" turns into "oppressive heat" that you can't turn off or escape for months on end without staying indoors all the time in the air conditioning :-/.
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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2010, 11:56:04 AM »
Ya know I have been here a short time but I love the fact  I can walk somewhere!!! I can get where I need to go pretty easy...

Although it took a minute to get used to the non-rushed lifestyle I am ok with it now...Not everything has to be done RIGHT NOW (even though I prefer that) hee hee

SO far good since everything has gone as planned now if it didnt I might be a bit bitchy...
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In the US I felt always running around never taking time to relax or enjoy things and here I do!


Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2010, 04:42:46 PM »
I moved from what felt like a soulless, sweaty, concrete jungle covered in Wal-Marts and McDonald's drive-thrus to a gorgeous seaside village with rolling green hills and flowers and castles... so why WOULDN'T I want to live here instead of there?!  ;)

((((HUGS))) Jewels!  That made me feel so much better.  I, for one, am dreading my impending move, but that just made me feel so inspired and excited about it. 

To answer the OP.  Why the UK? 

I think a majority of people here have a spouse that is British and that's why they live here.  My husband moved here 10 1/2 years ago and describes the way of life here "brutal."  Other people have differing opinions, and some have it better than others.  This is our point of view and why we are chosing to move back to my husband's country. 

1.  Vacations/Holidays/Sick Pay.  Employers offer far less vacation pay, holidays, and sick pay than in the UK.  For example, my husband will get 2 weeks vacation after 5 years at his current employer and no more, even if he works there for 20 years.  I worked for an insurance company and the maximum number of paid sick days/holidays/vacation pay was 18 days (that's everything together) and they're on Forbes top 100 places to work in the US!  One of the reasons they one that spot for the last 7 years is their generous paid time off!   In the UK my husbands prospective employer will give him 6 weeks paid holiday/vacation time.  That's a far cry from what we get here.  There again, some people have it better than others; it varies.

2.  The current economic situation and unemployment.  If you lose your job, unemployment is not enough to live on and it runs out in 6 months.  That's if you qualify for unemployment; usually your employer will contest it.  After six months, you're on your own.  Fall behind on your taxes, the government puts a lein on your home.  There is no such thing as council housing you can apply for if you lose your house due to being behind on mortgage payments unless you are among the poorest and qualify for section 5 and you don't want to live in that, trust me.

3.  Health insurance.  For many it's too expensive to insure their whole families; others have fully employer paid benefits.  I've been on both sides of that coin.  I've paid as much as $800-1000 a month for premiums and then had deductibles as high as $1500 a person  plus 20% and office visit co-pays anywhere from $10-40 depending on the type of provider.  Granted I don't have to have referals from my GP but the insurance company can determine that seeing that particular specialist is not regular and routine care and deny my claim, for example.  My US mom need a knee replacement surgery but will have to wait for 2 years until Medicaid kicks in or else have $60,000 of treatment.  On the other hand my UK mother in law has had 2 heart operations in the last year and my fil had a bilateral hip replacement.  This is not to argue the health system issues but to provide our point of view of the differences.

4.  Cost of driving/cost of activities/things to do.  Everything is so spread out.  It costs a fortune sometimes to drive anywhere. I don't live in a major metropolis; I live outside OKC.  It's big enough to have an NBA team, finally!  ;D  Culturally, though, there is little else unless you like line dancing.  When my husband moved here, he thought we could be in the Rocky mountains in a few hours (its about 10-12 hours from where I live to Denver, CO.)  I could fly or drive to one of America's scenic beauties but who has the cash- or vacation time?  I spent it all up on health care LOL.  I took my kids to the zoo last weekend.  The weather was great, 62F, sunny skies.  We threw down $100 bill just to treat our kids to McDonalds, the zoo admission, the tram and a cheap souvenier.  OUCH!  Enjoy your National Trust attractions.

Those are my husband's and my big reasons.  There are other reasons.  Perceptions are deceiving.  The weather looks fantastic but that is short lived like anything else.  Extreme weather. Tornados.  Thunderstorms with straight line winds fast enough to topple trees.  Lows near 0F in the winters and  temps in the summer reaching 105F with 80% humidity.  Mosquitos, ticks, lime disease, poisonous spiders, snakes, scorpions.  Bad roads, dirt roads, toll roads.  Poor schools- not poor in spirit poor in funds : (  Grass that dies in late summer. Grass fires.  Volunteer fire departments that local people have to fund out of pocket (In my rural area of the county there are no government sponsored fire/safety brigades.  It's funded by donations and spaghetti dinners. No I'm not kidding.).  A community mindset, despite one's level of income or education, that doesn't think life, technology or culture lies outside of the United States.   SUVs and trucks that get only 11 miles a gallon; cars that only get 22 miles a gallon.  Driving up to 90 miles round trip to take my children to school, go to work, pick them up and go back home.  Very little public transportation in most places.  Public transportation that cost almost as much as commuting in your own vehicles.  Trains that go to only one place and then back.  Ridiculously outrageously priced daycare costs if you have children (1000-1200/mo for one full-time and two after-care children).  OUCh.  Those are some of our reasons  :)

One more...He's still very very homesick and I'm ready for adventure (never lived away from home)!


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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2010, 05:19:37 PM »
Good post, juliebug! I would say, though, that the cost of going out to eat here is extortionate, for the most part, as well as going to the cinema, and doing all those other things. And train fares can cost an arm and a leg here, too, though you are right, there are more places you can go by public transport, at least. And many people in my office commute more than an hour each way to go to work (I'm guessing that may be by choice to live somewhere else, as there is nice, affordable housing where we live but many would consider it to be too far out of the city). So, those things you mentioned in the last part of your post might not be as good as you expect them to be. Having said that, it's still worth it, in my opinion. We may not be able to afford to go out to dinner, to the cinema (and the nearest zoo is in Edinburgh, which is over an hour's drive away, by the way!) or even to do much shopping, but it doesn't bother me as much as I would have thought. I enjoy just walking on the beach and taking in the scenery, which costs nothing, and the beach is at the end of my street!  ;D


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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2010, 05:27:40 PM »
Personally, I'm also excited to be able to walk everywhere. It'll give me a chance to really take in my surroundings.
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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2010, 05:45:44 PM »
Like most people on here, I get asked this question alot too by famil and friends.  It's tempting to give an answer that would make me sound adventerous and "cool". Very tempting. But for me, I am moving there because that's where DH is, and since he is still in school, that's where I am going to be living too for at least a few years.  I don't particularly like the UK because I did not really have a very positive experience when I studied there not too long ago. 

However, I am determined to focus on all the good aspects of it (as many people have pointed out here) and adjust my attitude to really make the best of this whatever length of time we end up living in the UK.




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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2010, 05:54:16 PM »
In the past (before I ever met my hubby) I'd been to the UK on more than a few vacations.  I have a great love of ancient megaliths, stone circles, the countryside, old buildings and churches and Jane Austen and the Bronte sisters--stuff like that.  But it was my number two love.  My number one love was Ireland. 

I met my British hubby in Ireland a few summers ago, and it was a natural decision for me to move over here since we both love Ireland and visit as often as we can, and want to live there someday (it's only a cheap and short flight away!).  Also, he is closer to his family than I am to mine, plus he has a career here which pays more than my job in the US did.
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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2010, 06:01:15 PM »
I like a lot of the same things that others have said already - the NHS, walking, being closer to Europe, vacation time, etc.  I moved here to marry my British husband - he had a better job & was much better paid than me, plus he had no desire to move to the US, so our decision (mostly on account of finances) was simple.  My standard of living here is much better than it was in the US.  Also like what Andee said, my husband is closer to his family than I am to mine - only my two brothers still living now in the US, my parents are gone, while my husband's parents are still alive & quite vibrant into their old age.

That said, I moved from Tampa Bay, Florida - and I do miss the Florida weather terribly!  Please give me heat & humidity & sunshine & light any day over the cold, snowy or rainy, grey, dark blahs.  I try my best to deal, but the winters really get me down something awful, especially the stretch after the Xmas/New Year holidays that we're in now.  Summers, when they do manage to make a brief appearance here, are quite lovely though - sort of like winter in Florida.  I hope someday we can maybe move to Spain or something!
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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2010, 01:29:55 PM »
Pretty much what everyone said.  Extreme heat and humidity make me sick - I had dreadful sinusitis and infections in Houston often.

Less crime here, too, than there.

I do miss the weather (but NOT the snow) in Denver.

But hey ho, you can't have it all.

Now that we have three young children, the whole health insurance and time off issues in the US really put us off ever living there again. 



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Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2010, 03:17:57 PM »
Thanks for all the responses. - Interesting to get all the different perspectives. Ive been to Florida twice, even got married there but I guess living there full time with heat may wear me down. Never thought about the health insurance and time off issues many of you have commented on, I always assumed it was similar to the U.K. Perhaps I should be grateful for my blessings after all - I guess we take things for granted sometime.
Best to you all.  ;)


Re: Why the U.K
« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 04:04:26 PM »
Thanks for all the responses. - Interesting to get all the different perspectives. Ive been to Florida twice, even got married there but I guess living there full time with heat may wear me down. Never thought about the health insurance and time off issues many of you have commented on, I always assumed it was similar to the U.K. Perhaps I should be grateful for my blessings after all - I guess we take things for granted sometime.
Best to you all.  ;)

Not to discourage you from a move, I hope. I know several people from Britain that would never go back. They love it here. I also know people that would do anything to go home too!  It's all what you value.  Give me a year in the rain in Scotland, and I'll probably have a rant or two about that too. LOL.

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