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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2004, 09:43:12 AM »
I never got checked by an OB or anyone while I was in the ward after birth. They checked Philip, but didn't give a toss about me. Never even had a midwife come talk to me.
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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2004, 09:55:46 AM »
Gadzooks all! First I want to thank you  for posting all of this. I would so rather know ahead of time than get blind-sided if any of this should ever happen to me. But I gotta say, right now this is powerful birthcontrol!  :o

Just out of curiousity... does anyone have any idea if there's a country that might have the whole pregnancy/delivery/aftercare thing right? Not that I'd go there! Just wondering really...
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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2004, 10:09:42 AM »
Balmer, I don't mean to frighten you with my experiences.  Part of my frustration with my NHS birth experience is that I also delivered in the US, had excellent care and facilities, and ample time to recover.  Considering my US experience, the NHS delivery was like comparing a Mercedes to an old banger (and I'm not talking about purely aesthetics).

Everyone's experiences are different and I've heard loads of women say that have been very pleased with their NHS births, but there's two sides to every coin.  Marlespo and I are the other sides.

Another note for you:  make sure your husband understands your birth plan and can speak for you if you can't.  I can't imagine why I wrote a birth plan because the eejits never bothered to follow any of it until my husband told them to.

I can't say only bad things about the NHS.  I feel that the in-home aftercare provided by the midwives and then the health visitor was second to none.  The midwives come every day for 10 (?) days after birth to check on you and baby.  After that, the health visitor comes once a week, then dropping to once every two weeks, then once a month (if memory serves).  It was nice to have some readily available advice and help, and sure beats the heck out of toting baby to the doctor's office.
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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2004, 10:14:15 AM »
I'm the other side.  Have had babies in both countries and would chose the UK any day. 
I also had the misfortune of having the same problem as Sara-really bad tear and was left with pain and discomfort until after I had my second baby.  Only, the tear happened in the US and was finally fixed in the UK. 


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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2004, 01:08:24 AM »
Oh my gosh, Sara!

You are so lucky not to have bled out due to low platelets!   :o :o

I am so, so sorry to hear the experience you've been through.  I remember when you were pregnant and I kept thinking, I hope she has really good care from her midwives, she deserves it.  Please believe me when I tell you this is very upsetting to me, especially since after I finish training as a nurse here, I will go on to get my midwifery training (was considering to do that in the U.K., but now, maybe I'll just finish here instead!). 

I can just imagine how tired and exhausted you were while in the ward with lots of other tired moms and crying babies.  This topic of private hospital rooms has been debated recently on another discussion board I take part in.  It appears that many hospitals here do offer private rooms, first come first serve.  Most of the time, there is an additional fee to pay, to ensure a private room.  Some hospitals have undertaken to make all rooms private (though quite small).  The hospital John and I took the childbirth preparation class has mainly shared rooms, unless you pay an extra fee.  I know sharing a room with even one other person can be annoying and stressful, but I can't imagine it being any worse than a ward full of women with only curtains to separate them.

We had Jackson in a freestanding birth center, across the street from a Level III NICU hospital.  That worked well for us, except since any woman who gives birth at the center is "low-risk," the longest she can remain post-birth is 12 hours.  If I had wanted to stay longer, I could have transfered to the hospital after the birth, but then we'd have had to pay something like $800 for just one extra night's stay.  Needless to say, we just opted to go home.  But at least before we went home, we were left alone in the birthing suite, where John, Jackson, and I were able to get a 4 hour nap on the queen-sized bed.  When I woke up, and had eaten, the nurse assisted me to the bathroom and helped me shower.  We had Jackson at 7:37 a.m., and we were home by 7 p.m. that night.  It was actually kind of nice being in my own bed.  If we'd been in the hospital, I know I'd have been hassled by nurses coming and going all the time, and Jackson most likely would have spent a good deal of time away from me in the nursery.  So, for us, it worked out.  The only thing I wished we had, was more than the single home visit, two days later, by the nurse.  It would have been nice to have the home health care here that the U.K. offers.

I'm really miffed now that you've told me how the doctors and midwives there are refusing to fix the tear.  At least if my sister really wanted to have hers fixed, I know she could circumvent the military insurance (her husband is deployed in Iraq, so maybe that's why it's not an immediate concern for her right now, KWIM?). and pay out-of-pocket to have it done.  If you'd like, I can ask my professors and/or the Certified Nurse Midwives at the Birth Center, to see if any of them either knows or can refer a good practice or OB in the area you will be moving to.  I don't know what state you are headed to, but whenever your family arrives here and when you are ready to have the tear repaired, I can certainly inquire to find out if they have any recommendations.

Good luck, and I hope you smash ass on the phone Monday!

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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2004, 07:57:27 AM »
I don't know what state you are headed to,

Neither do we! :) We probably won't know until 2 weeks or so before we move, it is still a bit up in the air.  ::) THanks for your support as well, you're a star. And Mindy really emphasized the point that you can receive fantastic care in both countries, just as well as receving crap care in both countries. But when you've had a crap experience in one country it is hard to not feel bitter about the system that created it, you know? I suppose that's natural...
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Re: Smoking while pregnant!
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2004, 03:11:19 PM »
I have had 2 children on the NHS and both experiences were different.  My first was HORRIBLE.  It was so bad that when I got pregnant six months later I was praying for a miscarriage.  Luckily we moved before my son was born and the differences between hospitals is staggering.  I do prefer the UK way.  Midwives are closer to humans than doctors will ever be.
I don't think that there is a country that has good pregnancy care but you can certainly research the hospitals in your area.
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