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Need advice!
« on: May 21, 2006, 04:56:39 AM »
Hello everybody!! I love this forum...just reading the posts help me so much to hang in there and be positive about my relationship :) I am new by the way :)

I think I have never missed someone as much as I miss my bf. We met online 4 years ago and we were friends until early last year after I broke up with my ex bf and we started to talk more often and eventually developed feelings for each other. I flew to England two months ago and we met in person, it was amazing to comfirm the feelings we had for each other online were there for real. We always talked about the future and he promised to come over for Xmas and meet my son and my parents, I'v already met his family and they were lovely. He is always talking about what he will say the day of our weeding and daydreaming about our little house and etc, it shows he really loves me :)
He is now in France and we dont get to chat or email at all because he is working in the middle of the nowhere and doesnt have access to the internet, but everytime he has a day off he goes to the nearest town and sends me an emails, he does write letters and postcards though, but its not the same as hearing his voice and chatting online, but at least i know he is ok and that he remembers me and it is also a bit more romantic.

I am a bit afraid my mom will not accept him, my mom will do anything to see me back with my ex ( I am 28 and she still thinks I'm a kid)( my ex is an angel, a great person) but the love is not there anymore and I dont think I can be attached to someone I dont love for the rest of my life, knowing that person loves me, I just dont think is fair for him.  My ex bf has been more than a father to my 10 year old  and so its a bit of a complicated situation, and sometimes I dont know if I am doing the right thing here....do I follow my heart and my happiness with my bf, or do I sacrifice that happiness for my son and my ex? I am sure my bf will love my son very much, he is an amazing guy and I think we deserve the chance to be happy together and I think my son will get to love him too.

We have talked about moving to Scotland and start a new life there and so I wanted you guys opinion ...Where do you think education is better? The US or the UK? and do you guys think is easier for a brithish to get used to the States or for an american to the UK? ( I know it probably depends on the person)
I have always wanted to move to the UK, but I will do whatever is best for all of us. How complicated is to get the visa when you have a kid? And do you think it will be better to go to the UK or to stay in the US? sorry...too many questions :(

Thanks for listening guys!!! I hope I hope I didnt confuse you guys much  :)


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Re: Need advice!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2006, 07:58:44 AM »
My ex bf has been more than a father to my 10 year old  and so its a bit of a complicated situation, and sometimes I dont know if I am doing the right thing here....do I follow my heart and my happiness with my bf, or do I sacrifice that happiness for my son and my ex? I am sure my bf will love my son very much, he is an amazing guy and I think we deserve the chance to be happy together and I think my son will get to love him too.

You do what is best by you in this situation.  How happy is your son going to be if you are in a relationship you don't really like?  Maybe it's fine for now, but five years down the line?  Ten?  Is it still going to be okay or are you going to always wonder about the "could have beens"?

I was in something of a similar situation when I met the man who is now my husband.  I had been dating someone for four years and we were six months away from the Big Wedding Of My Dreams, which my parents had laid out their life savings for.  Talk about pressure!  I felt very much as you did, that my ex is a GREAT guy (and he is) but that the relationship was lacking a connection, a spark that I felt with my then-friend from the UK.  It did come down to making one of the most difficult decisions of my life, but a million miles and one wedding ring later, I know I've made the right choice.  Some things you just have to do for you.  Yes, it's a risk, and yes, it's a big move.  You'll probably even get a lot of BS for it like I did.  If you're as lucky in your new man as I was, then it will all be worth it in the end.  Not easy by any stretch of the imagination (in my case there was a lot of money on the wedding, my parents hadn't even met the new guy when I called things off, and my fiance-at-the-time was and remains the nicest, sweetest human being alive...he just wasn't for me...there were a lot of bruised feelings.  I lost friends, lost the relationship with my ex's family, people took sides even though it was an amicable split...it was a mess) but wholly worth it.

Where do you think education is better? The US or the UK? and do you guys think is easier for a brithish to get used to the States or for an american to the UK? ( I know it probably depends on the person)
I have always wanted to move to the UK, but I will do whatever is best for all of us. How complicated is to get the visa when you have a kid? And do you think it will be better to go to the UK or to stay in the US? sorry...too many questions :(

I'm no real judge of this, but I do know that the UK values their teachers more than the US does just from an employment perspective!  As I don't have children yet, I can only speak from the hypotheses drawn from conversation with my husband wherein we compared our schooling.  We decided that the UK was far better education-wise for our (future) progeny, simply given the BS that goes on in the local (fairly good and reputable) American schools I went to.  My husband went to private schools and our kids probably will as well, so I know that makes a difference too.

Neither my hubby nor I have had any particular problems adjusting to the other's country.  I lived in the UK with him for two months and then he lived in the states with me for the better part of a year before we decided we wanted to move back here, and both of us seemed to adapt fairly well.  I think that's just going to depend on the personalities involved as opposed to how easy a culture is to adapt to.

I prefer it here in the UK, but we did something not everyone could afford to do-both took a chance in the other's country for a while.  If you can, I highly recommend doing a "test run" this way, just an extended holiday of sorts (a month or two), to see how you like it.  You won't be able to work and there are some aspects of daily life you might miss, but on the whole there's no way to see if you will adapt other than just jumping in.

Good luck!  You have some tough decisions in the end there, but I still maintain you need to make them for you.  Not your mom, not your son...this is and has to be purely for you.


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Re: Need advice!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2006, 10:23:29 AM »
It is a super hard choice when kids are involved. I am in similar boat. I have children from previous relationships. We had originally planned for my husband to immigrate to the US. We are even two months into that process, but a recent delay is making us reconsider our choice. A couple of things to consider:

From UK to US takes at best 6 months for a K1 (fiancee) or K3 (spousal) visa. Realistically 9 months, a year or year and a half. In the end it costs more and there are additional steps necessary for him to work in the US.

From US to UK takes 1 day at one of the consulates (Chicago, NY or LA). It can also be done in a couple of weeks by post. It costs more initially but if it is a spousal visa that is all you pay for 2 years until time to adjust your status to ILR (Indefinite Leave to Remain). If it is spousal, you have the right to work from the moment you step off the plane.

You should also consider who makes more...since either way you must show that you won't be public charges (welfare).

As for your child, unless you have sole legal and physical custody, you will need your ex to authorize you to take him from the US (a notarized letter at least).

I have explored both...email me if you want/need to talk it out more.
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Re: Need advice!
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2006, 05:56:50 PM »
Thanks guys..is good to know that other people have been in a similar situation as I am now and can understand me better than the people that haven't and instead of giving you support, they discourage you or make you feel guilty.
Gwen666  I take my hat off for you, it took courage to do what you did and I am glad everything turned out great!!and you are right, I have to do things for myself only, at the end of the day I am the one who is living my life not my family. I think that if I am happy in a relationship, my son will be happy too.  I think my mom is very old fashion and coming from a a latin culture (south america) they tend to have a very "machista" point of view, you know the guy needs to make the money to give the girl secuity etc, but I have a good job, I make decent money to support myself and my son....but that is how they think!

terriponeale, I do have complete custody of my son, we are both US citizen and his dad is not and lives in another country, but I  have all marriage and divorced papers from the country we married in, but I am not sure if I will still need his consent since he is not here. When are you planning to move to the UK and how many kids do you have?

Now, this is another thing, my bf has a reputation of being a traveller and so has lived in other countries and never had a stable job in the UK,( but last year he actually had a job until I went to visit him) last time we talked he said  when gets back to the UK  from France he would like to get a job and get a house and settle so we (my son and I) wouldn't have to worry about that.  He is lucky he comes from a wealthy family and so money for them is not a problem, but that doesnt mean he wouldnt have to start living in the real world and he is all up for it, he said he wants to settle and have a family.
I just want to make sure I give my son a good education and a safe and happy enviroment to live in.


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Re: Need advice!
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2006, 06:33:19 PM »
The standard is that you wouldn't become a 'public charge.' For most of us that means good jobs. If your bf is wealthy that may not be an issue. If he has other resources of his own, trust funds and the like, that is fine. If though the money is all his families then they would need to co-sponsor you. Make sense?
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Re: Need advice!
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 05:14:31 AM »
The standard is that you wouldn't become a 'public charge.' For most of us that means good jobs. If your bf is wealthy that may not be an issue. If he has other resources of his own, trust funds and the like, that is fine. If though the money is all his families then they would need to co-sponsor you. Make sense?

I understand, and i wouldnt want to go there under those circumstances neither :) I don't think he has much money himself :) but I know his family does, but in any case if my son and I do end up going to the UK at some point I would like it to be under our own resources...but sometimes a little help doesn't hurt!!.....I think time will tell and we'll see where the relationship goes first...is hard when sometimes you both plan a future together and being so far away sometimes make me feel insecure...is that normal?

Where in the States are you in terriponeale? you can email or IM me too :)




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