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Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« on: July 18, 2006, 11:45:30 AM »
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Why does all this visa stuff have to be so difficult! Anyways so I'm already in Colchester, with a UK visitor visa. Is there ANY way to switch it over to a different visa? I know I can apply for an extension, but I would really like to work here. I know I need a NIN, but do I need a work permit to get one. Also what would be the ways I could stay here permentally. I don't think there are any since I'm already in the UK. If there is I would really like to know! Thanks for the help.





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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2006, 11:50:06 AM »
You cannot change status of any sort from a visitor visa.  All visas need to be issued from the consulate in your home country.


Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2006, 11:54:33 AM »
you cannot get a NIN until you are able to prove you are eligible to work or have some form of settlement visa, or which a tourist visa is neither.

you will have to go back to the US once your visa time is finished.


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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2006, 01:50:17 PM »
You won't be able to extend the visit visa either, unless there is a really good reason, ie you are too ill to fly.

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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2006, 02:00:28 PM »
How long do I have to stay in America before I'm able to come back to the UK?





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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2006, 02:03:14 PM »
That depends....I stayed on a visitors visa for a full 6 months and then tried to come back for a long weekend visit about 4 months after I left and I was held at immigration with the threat of being denied entry.   I think the rule can be interpreted as 6 months within one calendar year - at least that was the line I got from the immigration officer I got that time.

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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2006, 10:47:32 PM »
It also depends on how you are coming back.

What is your long term strategy for staying in the UK?  It can't be "just because".  If you have a valid visa you can apply for (fiancee) the turn around time is very quick.  If you are going to come right back on a visitors visa, the IO that is going to meet you is going to get very suspicious how you can just live in the UK without working for > 6 months and will likely refuse you entry.

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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2006, 09:53:44 AM »
Well I am living with my boyfriend, but I'm not going to get married to him yet. I am only 21. My main concern was the whole visitor to student switch on your visa. I'm trying to get into school here, but I heard that you cant change your visa from visitor to student at all. Then I called the school I'm trying to go to, and the women there said I CAN switch it "in country" but it has to be for a degree level course. Im not sure what that means, but if I dont get into to a degree level course I have to apply for the school I want and then return to America and apply in my country. So thats why I was wondering how long it had to be that I would have to stay in america.





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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2006, 10:05:59 AM »
You can't change from a student to a visitor visa "in-country".  You will have to apply for and receive the visa in the US.

A student visa definitely seems to be the way to go for you; but be forewarned, it is NOT cheap!



Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2006, 10:20:33 AM »
Yep, Gwen's right.  You used to be able to do this - some of us got married on tourist visas and switched to FLR whilst in country - but that was years ago.  I think it changed in 2003.  At any rate, it's definitely changed and you'll have to go back to the US and apply for a student visa from there.  You can do it in person same day at a British Embassy, but it's not cheap.

I would also think long and hard about studying here to live with a boyfriend w/whom your future is uncertain.  Fair play if it was always your dream to study here, but it is a very, very costly - for you, at any rate - way to test out a relationship b/c of international student fees. 



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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2006, 10:39:39 AM »
Actually, the change only came about in April, which is probably why the student office didn't know about it. Until then, it was possible for a non-visa national in the UK as a visitor to switch to a student visa if the course was degree level of above.

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Re: Already in the UK. Confused!!!
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2006, 10:44:10 AM »
Actually, the change only came about in April, which is probably why the student office didn't know about it. Until then, it was possible for a non-visa national in the UK as a visitor to switch to a student visa if the course was degree level of above.

Vicky

Ah!  I knew it had changed, but not when b/c it never applied to me or anyone I knew.  The marriage thingy changed before that, though, IIRC. 

I did marry on a tourist visa and change over to what was called FLR(M) by post whilst staying in the UK, but that was back in 2002.


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