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quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« on: July 20, 2006, 02:57:19 AM »
I had a baby June 2005, we did everything British Embassy told us to do to have her british citizenship legalized, barr the foot and hand prints (hospital I had her at doesn't do them for some seriously stupis reason)
Anyone have ANY clue what it is I need to do, now that she's beyond a year old, to get her british citizenship recognized and legalized in the UK???? If anything???
If not, it looks like she's going to be robbed of that citizenship, and I think that's pretty sad.
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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2006, 08:35:08 AM »
Did you register her birth with the Consulate?

Though I didn't register my youngest son's birth, (born in 2004) he was still entitled to a British passport which we got this year in time for our move to the UK.

Since being back in the UK his birth certificate, (US) has been sufficient to apply for child benefit for him so I guess it'll be just fine should it be needed for anything else.


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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2006, 09:18:08 AM »
I had a baby June 2005, we did everything British Embassy told us to do to have her british citizenship legalized, barr the foot and hand prints (hospital I had her at doesn't do them for some seriously stupis reason)

What did they tell you to do?

We applied for a passport and that was it.  She's a British Citizen(is now 17) and never had any problems. 


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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2006, 10:39:25 AM »
I'm pretty sure just registering the birth with the consulate is sufficient.  I was born in the US to british-born parents and that is all they did when I was born.  Earlier this year I was able to apply for my British Passport with no probs and am now living in the UK as a dual citizen.  Though you might want to double check with the consulate to be sure.





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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2006, 03:02:26 PM »
What did they tell you to do?

We applied for a passport and that was it.  She's a British Citizen(is now 17) and never had any problems. 
They told me that we had to have the long version of our birth certificates as well as for Natalie, we had to have a letter of acknowledgement that DH is in fact her father from a doctor or a professional that has known us for at least 1 year and can verify parentage (and that note must be notarized), they also want originals of foot and hand prints that were taken....which the hospital never did, and to top it off, they wanted in excess of $200 to process all of that paperwork including the booklet they gave us to fill out.  :-\\\\ We figured we were basically screwed on getting anything for her due to the fact that they didn't do the foot/hand prints, because they said that was the only other thing they needed if we were applying for her after she was 3 months of age....
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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2006, 03:07:24 PM »
Is her father the British national other than by descent?  Are you married?  If the answer to these questions is 'yes' then your daughter is also British. They can't refuse her this because the hospital didn't take footprints!!!

They need the long version of birth certificates to prove that your husband is a british Citizen other than by Descent, and therefore able to pass his nationality onto his child.  With this, and proof of paternity, there should be no problem.

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2006, 05:38:03 PM »
If you're married, that is proof of paternity.  You do need the long birth certificate, or if she was born in the States, you need the birth certificate that you send away for.  But that stuff is what you need to apply for her passport.  Personally, I'd try that route first. 


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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2006, 11:22:33 AM »
If you're married, that is proof of paternity.  You do need the long birth certificate, or if she was born in the States, you need the birth certificate that you send away for.  But that stuff is what you need to apply for her passport.  Personally, I'd try that route first. 

Marriage is not necessarily proof of paternity.  The birth certificate is usually, but they seem to be asking for more evidence in this case.  It may be that, because of the recent changes which allow nationality to be passed from fathers even if the parents are not married, that they are asking for more evidence as a matter of course.

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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2006, 11:30:13 AM »
It may be that, because of the recent changes which allow nationality to be passed from fathers even if the parents are not married, that they are asking for more evidence as a matter of course.

When did that change and how does it work, when did it come into effect? If the baby was born in the UK before the marriage, but the husband is the father, does that right itself after the marriage in terms of citizenship being passed thru the father or has that changed that you don't have to be married for it to pass?


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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2006, 11:54:59 AM »
It was always the case that if the marriage is 'legitimised', ie the parents marry after the child is born, then nationality is passed...however, it is now the case that nationality can be passed fromt he father even if the parents are not married.  This came into affect on 1st July 2006, but is not ap0lied retrospectively, so only applies to children born from then on.

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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2006, 12:07:15 PM »
Thanks for the clarification.  :)


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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2006, 01:09:25 PM »
Marriage is not necessarily proof of paternity.  The birth certificate is usually, but they seem to be asking for more evidence in this case.  It may be that, because of the recent changes which allow nationality to be passed from fathers even if the parents are not married, that they are asking for more evidence as a matter of course.

Vicky


Legally, the man you're married to at the time of giving birth is the father.  The new changes in the law only pertain to people who aren't married.  Plus,  we all know that the info you get over the phone is not always %100 accurate.


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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2006, 01:24:46 PM »
This is not true!  In immigration and nationality  terms, the man you are married to at the time of giving birth is most definitely not legally the father.

The changes refer to biological parents who are not married to each other.

What is your reference to 'info you get over the phone'?  I don't understand.

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Re: quickt (maybe) about dual citizenship
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2006, 01:30:37 PM »
Have you looked at this site:
http://www.britainusa.com/sections/articles_show_nt1.asp?d=1&i=41016&L1=10080&L2=41016&a=25315

When DD was born (in the US - my DH is the British half), we just sent in the Application to Register a birth with a copy of her US birth certificate.

http://www.britainusa.com/consular/BirthReg06COMPLETED.pdf

As you can see, the application only refers to the birth certificate for the parents, the child, marriage certificate and divorce decree (if applicable). Nothing is mentioned about footprints  ???

If I were in your situation, I would just print off the app and send the appropriate forms with the fee. If there is an issue or question, the Consulate will contact you (they did us when there was a question about something) and they are very helpful IME.

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