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Help! Head exploding!
« on: November 29, 2007, 09:20:17 PM »
My husband is actually the American, but somehow I get left to do all the paperwork type stuff. As a result, he hasn't filed any taxes for the past 3 or 4 years we have been back in the UK.  From what I understand (which is little when it comes to US Taxes), this shouldn't be a big problem, we just need to file the right forms.

But, which forms do we need to file?   Do we send them to the US or the embassy in London?

I was a permanent resident in the US (we married in 1998, and resided in the US until 2003) so I have an SSN number, so hopefully that might make things a little easier?  He earns under the $80k threshold, and I have no income so hopefully that part of it should be straightforward.  We hope to move back to the US next year (currently filing for my second greencard, ugh) and need this done for the immigrant paperwork for me.

However, since we moved to the UK, we've had two children.  So we have never filed taxes with the kids before.  They both have SSN numbers as we got them registered at the US Embassy in London. 
I read elsewhere on this forum something about Child tax allowances and being refunded money even though nothing has been paid?  Can someone explain that to me and tell me if it applies to us?

Also, I'm not sure which was the last year he filed.  Is there a way to find this out?  I know we initially owed the IRS some money, but we paid that off shortly after we moved here. 



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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2007, 10:36:28 AM »
1)  USE A TAX PROGRAMME OR A TAX PROFESSIONAL.  That way, you don't have to start from square one, namely the ubiquitous "What forms do we have to file?".

2)  You only have to do the past thee years.  That's 2006, 2005, and 2004.  If you wait another month, the three years will be 2007, 2006, and 2005, shaving off one year.  If he had any US source income in the year he moved, then he also should file that year's return if he hasn't already done so.

3)  As a greencard holder, you too are considered an American.  You must also file a US tax return every year.  Otherwise, they can take your greencard away from you, making next year's planned move a might more difficult.

4)  The programme or the tax accountant will guide you through the whole process.  Don't try to do the maths by hand.  Just don't. 

5)  The tax credits are based on earned income.  You'll need to run your return through the programme several different ways to see which method generates the most tax credits.  The main options are:  Foreign Earned Income Exclusion only, Foreign Tax Credits only, or a blended method.  The programme will help only to a certain degree.  A tax professional will do this for you automatically. 

6)  Your options for tax professionals are: 
a)  Stateside:  Cheapest.  Make sure you tell them about my point 5 above - they may not realize they can run it several ways and that the different ways will affect the child tax credits.
b)  UK:  More expensive, but you don't have to tell us how to suck eggs.

7)  Your options for tax programmes:  I like Turbotax, as it guides you through the process better than most programmes.

8)  Whatever option you go for (programme, accountant, or pencil and paper), if you come up with any number other than a zero balance due, seek further advice from a paid professional before signing and paying.  Most tax professionals will review someone else's work for free or for a bargain price in the hopes that they'll find an error and get a new client.
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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2007, 11:03:39 AM »
Thanks!  I was hoping to be able to do this without paying anything as we are on an extremely tight budget.  Seems crazy to pay when we don't owe any taxes.    Since I've been out of the country 4 years, I've "abandoned" my greencard, and am currently going through the process all over again (ugh).  We filed taxes for the partial year we were in the US (2003) but haven't filed anything since.

Edit:  Oh, I have an old copy of TurboTax from 2001, is there anyway I can use that and just plug the info into the newer forms?  Probably not eh?


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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2007, 01:37:03 PM »
Old Copies of Turbo Tax will have old figures and laws in them.  The deductibles will be off and some exemptions as well. 

You could use it to get a general idea, but the fact it is > 5 years old means I wouldn't recommend it.

(p.s. a new one, bought online, is only like $30 or so)...


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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2007, 03:04:33 PM »
Modifying the Turbotax Buy A New One instruction.

What you actually need is a TurboTax for EACH tax year, as they are specific.  For example, the 2006 Turbotax programme is for the 2006 CALENDAR year.  The 2006 exemptions, deductions, adjustments, etc., are all different than those for 2005 or 2007. Thus, you need to buy a 2004 Turbotax (if you're starting with the 2004 return), a 2005 Turbotax, a 2006 Turbotax, and a 2007 Turbotax. 

You can buy old ones off Ebay for less than Turbotax's full price.  Or you can buy old years off the main Turbotax site.
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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2007, 08:46:19 PM »
Hi...

Extremely helpful information!  i am an expat working in the UK and needing to file a tax return.  I was wondering if anyone knows of a tax professional who specializes in US AND UK tax filing.  I'm a bit over my head with the processes and my company (unfortunately) does not provide me tax equalization.

Any contacts you have are appreciated!

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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 07:45:03 AM »
Michi,

Scoot further down the forum and read some of the titles.  You'll find http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=30797.0 which covers this.  Also, searching the forum further will yeild yet more suggestions, rants, and so forth.

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Re: Help! Head exploding!
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 03:39:56 PM »
Thank you Lizzit!  i'll take a look...


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