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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2009, 10:50:38 PM »
Especially since this is such a low hurdle for US applicants to clear (this is not always the case for applicants from other countries,) if you can't provide enough real world examples to clear it, it's a real problem. In the entire time I've been reading this site, I think I saw only one case where the visa was rejected cause the ECO didn't think the relationship was genuine.

Yeah, it's definitely good to have those RL things, and it doesn't hurt to sprinkle a couple of inbox screenshots and such throughout, as long as you have those things like phone bills and letters and photos *for sure*. In my case I'm collecting some phone bills even though I'm applying for a spousal visa, since it's incredibly hard for me to fake them since the call logs are printed on the back of my bill >.> So if you do that, and take some pictures together when you're over there, I think it'll be okay. Like Mort said (and other people have said it as well) we're incredibly lucky to be applying from the US as American citizens, since sometimes we don't have to show as much to prove a point as we would be if we were from some other part of the world.

I just don't think the ECO wants thousands of pages of logs off the internet--if I were to provide mine, they'd reject me just out of frustration since we've been sending emails and using MSN multiple times a day for 3 years :) And like what's been pointed out, those are easier to fake than a phone bill or a hand-written letter.
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2009, 10:56:28 PM »
I just don't think the ECO wants thousands of pages of logs off the internet--if I were to provide mine, they'd reject me just out of frustration since we've been sending emails and using MSN multiple times a day for 3 years :)

This.  Honestly, sometimes I read people's posts about all the relationship stuff they included in their application and think that if I were the ECO, I wouldn't even bother looking at most of it.  A few pictures, some call logs, maybe some visa stamps or boarding passes from visits, and you're good to go. 
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2009, 10:57:06 PM »
Random question -

Obviously, Tim and I have met, have photos together, etc.  But we hardly ever email each other or talk on the regular phone. We do all our communicating through Skype-to-Skype.  I can get records of that through Skype, but is this something for me to be concerned about now? (I'd say we're 6 months to a year away from applying for my visa)
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 11:00:20 PM »
Random question -

Obviously, Tim and I have met, have photos together, etc.  But we hardly ever email each other or talk on the regular phone. We do all our communicating through Skype-to-Skype.  I can get records of that through Skype, but is this something for me to be concerned about now? (I'd say we're 6 months to a year away from applying for my visa)


It is one thing to provide some kind of online record as a small part of your evidence. It's entirely another to have it be your ONLY evidence.

You have photos and you have ticket stubs. Take a screenshot of your skype phone logs and you're probably done and dusted.
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2009, 11:01:44 PM »


It is one thing to provide some kind of online record as a small part of your evidence. It's entirely another to have it be your ONLY evidence.

You have photos and you have ticket stubs. Take a screenshot of your skype phone logs and you're probably done and dusted.

Thanks Mort.  Definately makes me feel better!  OH - and I have my UK Mobile phone records, too!  I just thought of that.
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2009, 11:05:08 PM »
This.  Honestly, sometimes I read people's posts about all the relationship stuff they included in their application and think that if I were the ECO, I wouldn't even bother looking at most of it.  A few pictures, some call logs, maybe some visa stamps or boarding passes from visits, and you're good to go. 

If anything, I think they'd be looking to see if the couple have indeed been in contact for as long as they say they have been. So, just have a bit of stuff from over the period of time you've been talking, along with the RL stuff you can include would prolly satisfy an ECO. I think I'd be bored having to read through MSN conversations, personally :P
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2009, 11:09:40 PM »
Thanks Mort.  Definately makes me feel better!  OH - and I have my UK Mobile phone records, too!  I just thought of that.

Look, there are different people, different circumstances, so it's hard to make a blanket statement, but a lot of the time, I read about US spousal visas being rejected for preventable mistakes: failure to do research, failure to submit correct (or correctly copied) documents, etc. Basically, for being unprepared. You're six months away from application and, admit it, you've probably already printed out a copy of the application and filled it out "just to practice." ;) When time comes, you'll be ready, so you'll be fine. :)
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2009, 01:50:35 AM »
I just read your signature. Did you get a fiance visa and stay in the US for a while during that visa?

Sorry, only just saw this...

I was granted my fiance visa on the 21st of July 2008 and I left for England 10 days later. Then we didn't get married in the UK until 1st of November 2008 and I was granted my FLR(M) that following Monday, the 3rd, at an in-person appointment.

It wouldn't benefit anyone to spend any of their visa time in the states for longer than necessary as there is a 6 month time limit in which you have to marry the person you are going to the UK for. Once you're married, you can't leave the UK again and re-enter without first getting FLR(M), which is what I did.
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #23 on: April 10, 2009, 02:00:39 AM »
Mort = stealing my job.

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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #24 on: April 10, 2009, 04:07:15 AM »
Mort = stealing my job.

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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2009, 04:04:02 PM »
You're six months away from application and, admit it, you've probably already printed out a copy of the application and filled it out "just to practice." ;) When time comes, you'll be ready, so you'll be fine. :)

Shhhhh! :p

I'm also overly paranoid and like to be prepared for things. I've already informed Tim that he needs to keep all his bank statements and pay slips so we're ready with the three months worth when we need it! 
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2009, 05:32:54 PM »
As for proof of relationship:

I met my fiance online --- early in 2008.  We've talked via email and daily on Skype.  I printed out copies of a few emails only.  And we did in fact meet -- I spent two weeks with him during Christmas and New Years in England.

As far as photos --- he took a few of me while I was there.  We don't have any together.  I do have a printout from Expedia from my flight info when I went there.  So, will this be a problem when applying for a fiance visa?
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2009, 05:50:07 PM »
As far as photos --- he took a few of me while I was there.  We don't have any together.  I do have a printout from Expedia from my flight info when I went there.  So, will this be a problem when applying for a fiance visa?

Don't you have anything to really show that you met each other?  A receipt from dinner?  Not trying to be paranoid, but someone could say "yeah, so she took a trip to the UK, there are 30,000,000 people in the UK..."
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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2009, 05:57:03 PM »
Don't you have anything to really show that you met each other?  A receipt from dinner?  Not trying to be paranoid, but someone could say "yeah, so she took a trip to the UK, there are 30,000,000 people in the UK..."

I see what you mean --- I'm also getting very nervous.  But, I wouldn't think a receipt would necessarily prove we actually met.  The only 'evidence' we have is that I also met a few of his friends and his adult son.  And I don't know how their word could be used as proof.

I just don't have anything other than proof that I went there from the stamp on my passport.


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Re: Questions about Online Chat logs
« Reply #29 on: April 10, 2009, 06:48:16 PM »
Stetements from the people you met.

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