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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2010, 02:09:04 PM »
There are councils in London that I would consider more progressive, such as Camden, which is actively promoting green living.  London feels like a bunch of different villages, so I would check it out as well.


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2010, 08:37:23 PM »
Thank you so much everyone for your replies! I  didn't reply before now because I wanted to see what everyone else came up with, and I like everyone's interpretations- basically I wanted to know which areas are "setting the pace" for the future.  I like the fact Brighton elected the UK's first Green MP, that's definitely on the cutting edge. And I am very interested in checking out that village in York and Camden.
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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2010, 01:32:25 PM »
I would like to know what asbo/yob ridden area of Newcastle you are in and why you are having such negative views on the city on a whole?


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2010, 08:18:32 PM »
What village in York are you talking about?


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2010, 08:46:44 PM »
Like everyone else, I agree the definition of a city being "progressive" is subjective and part of a personal experience.  There is an urban/town planning (my field) definition and I am not sure the OP is looking for that.

IMO, I think the sense of Madison, Portland, parts of CA or CO that I consider "progressive" will never exist in the UK.  There is so much trust in government, so much entrenchment in history and tradition, and so little globalization and diversity even in the most educated places (as a comparison) that it is hard to have a large segment of a population that really could be viewed as progressive.    I live in the "international" side of Sheffield with large numbers of university and hospital staff, the lib dems are huge, we have all green/ local products, all organic, conservation of the peaks and on and on.   But it is a small part of this city and the school system, the public library, services - and local governments and councils are not independent of the national system and so there is less advocacy and community action.

I think the concept of a progressive city is interesting and I love the discussion on this web forum.  
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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2010, 09:11:18 PM »
This *is* an interesting thread. I lived in Portland, Oregon for several years before moving to Brighton, and I was glad that Brighton's more open-minded, artistic, and free-flowing in general, though it's certainly no Portland. Portland, I think, is really embodying the ultra-green and socially progressive movement right now, and I'm a little bummed to be missing it. That said, I think Brighton's pretty decent. It's definitely liberal, and more and more shops and cafes are going green. If you talk to people on the street, they seem to have similar attitudes to people I would meet in Portland. The art scene is alive and vibrant.

But on the other hand... there's a lot of litter. Maybe that sounds like an odd thing to notice, but it's quite striking. Back home, I almost never saw litter. Here (and I don't know if this applies to the rest of the UK), there's just gobs and gobs of it--the grass next to the sidewalk will be covered in candy foils, old soda cans, packs of cigarettes. So while the city may collectively purport environmental awareness, a large majority of folks aren't really backing that up.

One thing I'd like to see here in Brighton are more alternative primary schools, a UK version of magnet and charter schools. I'm disappointed in the state educational system here, and I was surprised to learn that there aren't any state-funded alternatives given how liberal Brighton is supposed to be.

Those are just a couple aspects of "progressive", and folks will have their own preferences. Of course Brighton is all of those things other people mentioned--a huge party town, lots of drunks on the weekends, etc. But the influx of youth, whether for the clubs or the university, are really a driving force behind modern social and political views, so I'll take the bad with the good.  :)
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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #36 on: October 22, 2010, 09:05:05 AM »
One thing I'd like to see here in Brighton are more alternative primary schools, a UK version of magnet and charter schools. I'm disappointed in the state educational system here, and I was surprised to learn that there aren't any state-funded alternatives given how liberal Brighton is supposed to be.

I don't know what a magnet and charter school is but I thought Brighton had a Steiner School?  :)

http://www.brightonsteinerschool.org.uk/


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2010, 07:39:27 PM »
I agree that you will find progressives in any moderately large city, Newcastle certainly being one of them. But this is an interesting topic, and what area best suits you really depends on how you define "progressive". Some people would call Manhattan's Soho "progressive", for example, I would characterize it as "bourgeois bohemian". Read here for a comprehensive definition: newcomer link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theobserver/2000/may/28/focus.news1 [nonactive]

An area I really like is Manchester's Chorlton - it's less bourgeois (and much less expensive) than London's Wimbledon Village, for example, and less cliched than London's Camden, but definitely progressive. For example, there's an initiative to keep Tesco out: newcomer link: http://keepchorltoninteresting.org/ [nonactive]

But before you move, I would suggest giving Newcastle a chance, first - and if you really don't like your particular area, consider moving locally.


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2010, 07:03:24 PM »
But Brighton did elect the first Green MP.

It's also very "vegetarian friendly" -- animal rights = progressive in the minds of many.


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2010, 07:47:39 PM »

An area I really like is Manchester's Chorlton - it's less bourgeois (and much less expensive) than London's Wimbledon Village, for example, and less cliched than London's Camden, but definitely progressive. For example, there's an initiative to keep Tesco out: http://keepchorltoninteresting.org/

I never saw this, but I live in Chorlton, its a great place to live. Not the be all and end all, but it is quite progressive. For example, there are lots of primary schools, but the one that my son goes to is non-uniform and they are extremely proud of that, we call all the teachers by their first names (the parents do) and its all very laid back. We have a high number of children with same sex parents also. There is a big movement to keep Tesco out, however, unfortunately two Tesco Metros have opened in the last year. And plans for a BIG Tesco have passed, and will be opening in the future. However, we do have the most fantastic independantly owned shops here, food shops, toy shops, clothing shops. We have a vegan co-operative which is amazing to live near, and in my opinion...some of the nicest most sincere people around. I love it, and think its pretty progressive.


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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #40 on: December 27, 2010, 09:47:04 PM »
Brighton is probably the place for you. Its very left-wing, environmentally-conscious and all that crap. Its also dirty and is known as "London by the sea". Personally I hate it. You might also consider Reading and St Albans.


Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #41 on: December 27, 2010, 10:11:08 PM »
Brighton is probably the place for you. Its very left-wing, environmentally-conscious and all that crap.

Is there something wrong with that?

Brighton is also considered by many to be Britain's "gay capital".




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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #42 on: December 27, 2010, 10:21:41 PM »
You might also consider Reading and St Albans.

St Albans is a nice place, but I don't know if I'd consider it 'progressive'!
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Re: Your opinions on "progressive" towns in the UK
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2011, 11:49:28 PM »
Just as a follow-up, I settled between Bristol and Swindon and I am loving it already.  Again, one man's food is another man's poison... it works for me  ;D
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