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Baking questions
« on: June 25, 2011, 12:51:15 PM »
I don't bake.  At all.  I don't even warm up the pumpkin pie that I buy for Thanksgiving.  So, you get the picture.

However, I am going to attempt brownies or chocolate chip cookies or both for a 4th of July do.

If I use a US recipe with US measurements, are flour and baking powder the same here as in the US?  Should I use a certain flour?  Will the measurements be the same?

If I use a UK recipe, do i measure grams for dry ingredients and weigh grams for things like butter and chocolate?

Any other tips?

Sorry if these are stupid questions, but did I mention that I don't bake? ;D


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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 01:08:03 PM »
I prefer using UK recipes when I'm in the UK - just to eliminate any unnecessary ingredient malfunction! Also, I weigh everything. May I recommend Nigel Slater's Very Good Brownies? They are indeed very good.

http://www.food.com/recipe/nigel-slaters-very-good-chocolate-brownies-144713
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 01:19:54 PM »
I make regular old toll house cookies from the recipe on the back of the nestle chip bag.  I use strong flour but use arm & hammer baking soda in the box and they turn out identical to the ones I made in the US. Even burn the same, too.  I am a crappy cook.  Previously I made them a few times with a random container of baking soda I bought at tesco and the cookies were totally flat.  I used arm & hammer, and they were back to normal.  It is entirely possible that it was operator error, because I am a shitty cook.  That's just my experience and not a judgement of uk baking soda.

I weigh out the butter, but have my measuring cups and spoons from the us for everything else.  If I didn't have those, I'd weigh everything.

ETA: I do realize this is the unassimilated way of doing things.  So probably not recommended.
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 01:41:08 PM »
Meh.  I use British recipes for new things, but for my traditional cookies and pies from home I use American recipes. 

I mean, I haven't seen a decent recipe for Shoo-fly pie from the UK so what else am I going to do?  In fact, given that I make "Lehigh Valley" Shoo-Fly pie, (or just Shoo-Fly pie, it should never have a wet bottom! NEVER! and no eggs.) I have rarely seen a decent version of it in the US.  HA! 

I use strong flour, (US flour naturally has more gluten than plain UK flour and strong flour has more gluten in it) and I use cups for everything other than butter.   


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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 01:57:34 PM »
Brownies should work fine using a US recipe with UK ingredients. Cookies, however, are a whole other story and I think the general concensus is to use strong (bread) flour instead of plain flour so they don't go flat.
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2011, 08:04:27 PM »
If you never ever bake as you say, my tip would be to buy a brownie mix at the grocery store & go with that!  :)
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 02:13:54 PM »
Thank you for your suggestions.  I opted for brownies and used a UK recipe like chary suggested and weighed everything.  It was similar to hers but didn't require a mixer which of course I don't have.  The brownies were a hit!    [smiley=2thumbsup.gif] Mrs. Robinson, your suggestion of brownie mix was reasonable, but I guess I should have added that I'm a competent cook so I was comfortable giving a from scratch recipe a try with the extra knowledge I got from you guys.

Thanks again!
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 04:22:34 PM »
Glad your brownies turned out! I used Chary's recommendation for those Nigel Slater brownies and I'll never go back to a mix after making them. They're awesome!


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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 04:35:12 PM »
I always use that recipe and everyone loves them! But I'm in the US right now and I tried to make them the other day using my friend's oven. Instead of taking 25-30 minutes to cook, they were burnt after 15 minutes! Total brownie failure!  :\\\'(

But I'm glad yours were a success, gretel44!
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2011, 04:37:46 PM »
Oh my, now I've got a brownie craving.  I think I'll be making these for my barbeque on Saturday.  I may even need to make a test batch, purely for scientific purposes of course.  ;)
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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2011, 02:13:54 PM »
I always use that recipe and everyone loves them! But I'm in the US right now and I tried to make them the other day using my friend's oven. Instead of taking 25-30 minutes to cook, they were burnt after 15 minutes! Total brownie failure!  :\\\'(

But I'm glad yours were a success, gretel44!

Uh oh...I haven't tried to make them here yet!  :-\\\\


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Re: Baking questions
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2011, 10:33:20 AM »
Thought I'd pitch in on this conversation with my 2 cents (or pence) worth!  I'm a chef and can shed a little light on tips and tricks.  If you're using a specific recipe, it may be a bit tricky to convert it to another system (eg UK to US) because except for teaspoons and tablespoons, pretty much everything else is different in measurement.  You have a US fluid ounce which doesn't equate to UK ounces exactly.  Thus 8 US fl oz is 1 cup, which is slightly less than a UK cup (48mls or so less).  Remember that depending on whether you sift your flour, 500 grams could be a different volume from one day to the next.  Weight will always give you the same amount no matter what.  US measurements of 1 1/2 cup of flour are rough generalisations and can still be off if you scoop the flour with the cup or spoon it in and level it off. 

Baking is a bit of chemistry and you have to get the chemicals (salt, baking soda and/or baking powder) in the right proportions or you won't get a reaction, that is raising effect. 

So, to sum it all up, if you're going to be making a lot of recipes from both countries, invest in two sets of measuring cups from each and a good set of digital kitchen scales. 


Re: Baking questions
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2011, 01:08:14 PM »
I like to experiment with my cooking and baking...always have, always will.....anyway I decided to make a Chocolate Mayonnaise Cake.....turned out rather well.....moist and yummy and no added calories as I didn't put frosting on it.........I sometimes use UK recipes but convert everything into a language I can understand.....I am way to old to learn new tricks........ ;)


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