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Re: Typical American
« Reply #45 on: August 07, 2012, 07:45:40 AM »
A guy said to me once that Alannis Morrisette* was proof that Americans don't get ironics.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #46 on: August 07, 2012, 07:59:32 AM »
Woadgrrl, Gaelic doesn't really have swear-words?

Really?

How interesting!

I didn't know that!

Do they just not really have 'official' ones, and they have... like... unofficial slang... that they use?
Or, do they not even have that?
Or do they just swear in English?

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #47 on: August 07, 2012, 08:12:10 AM »
A guy said to me once that Alannis Morrisette* was proof that Americans don't get ironics.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #48 on: August 07, 2012, 09:31:58 AM »
A guy said to me once that Alannis Morrisette* was proof that Americans don't get ironics.


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He might have been right, depending on when it was said!:
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #49 on: August 07, 2012, 11:38:51 PM »
Woadgrrl, Gaelic doesn't really have swear-words?

Really?

How interesting!

I didn't know that!

Do they just not really have 'official' ones, and they have... like... unofficial slang... that they use?
Or, do they not even have that?
Or do they just swear in English?



As I understand it (from my husband, who's a native speaker), there aren't any words that are, in and of themselves, 'dirty.'  It's all about context.  There's certainly vulgar slang, but they tend to be double entendres of otherwise acceptable words.  And there's a strong tradition of long and inventive curses, which seem often to involve descriptions of horrible things that ought to happen to the other guy.    But there's not an 'F-word,' equivalent-- i.e. a word that's 'bad' no matter how you use it.

That being the case, everyday gaelic conversations are often peppered with English swearwords.


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Re: Typical American
« Reply #50 on: August 08, 2012, 05:40:25 AM »
"And there's a strong tradition of long and inventive curses, which seem often to involve descriptions of horrible things that ought to happen to the other guy."

AWESOME, I love the Irish... LOL!
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #51 on: August 08, 2012, 07:58:11 AM »
AWESOME, I love the Irish... LOL!

Judging by woadgrrl's location, that would be the Scottish that you love.
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #52 on: August 08, 2012, 08:39:47 AM »
"And there's a strong tradition of long and inventive curses, which seem often to involve descriptions of horrible things that ought to happen to the other guy."

AWESOME, I love the Irish... LOL!

That's Scottish Gaelic- Woadgrrl lives in the Western Isles-   Very similar to Irish Gaelic, but different.   ;)
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #53 on: August 08, 2012, 08:51:28 AM »
AWESOME, I love the Irish... LOL!

Now that is ironic. 
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #54 on: August 08, 2012, 01:21:08 PM »
A lot of irony is in the phrasing.  Personally, I don't think it's funny to say "Where I come from we shoot people like you."  That is phrased as a threat.  But if you say something like, "Well, I'm American, so obviously I just shoot people who annoy me," then that's clearly ironic.  However, I hope we can agree that all shooting-people jokes are in pretty poor taste given the recent events in Colorado and Wisconsin, whether they're intended as irony or not. 

Isn't that sarcasm, not irony?  [smiley=bobby.gif]

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #55 on: August 08, 2012, 01:43:26 PM »
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2012, 10:57:04 PM »
haha... ok, shall I say I love both?

I don't want to be arrested. I'm being sincere!
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2012, 02:38:51 PM »
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Re: Typical American
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2012, 04:43:33 PM »
It might prove useful to have some "Pedant Police" roaming around...

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Re: Typical American
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2012, 05:55:36 PM »
It might prove useful to have some "Pedant Police" roaming around...

That's the elite special forces unit that protects innocent pedants from the irrational hatred of those whom they correct, right?  Cuz we definitely need one of those.
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