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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #135 on: October 26, 2012, 10:34:01 AM »
The BBC (and other media elements, but especially the BBC). The current affairs and documentary programming areas often seem to be gripped by anti-US and anti-Israel sentiment that leads to inherent bias in the way these countries are portrayed. Just watch BBC current affairs (and documentary programmes with any kind of political overtone), and just count how often you see an Israeli or an American who is left wing, moderate, secular, and tolerant. It's pretty rare. This portrayal of the US as a country full of foaming at the mouth uber-patriot warmongers creates a negative sense of 'us and them'.

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On the contrary, I'd be willing to bet money that they were Bosnian Serbs, who (as do many Serbs in Serbia and Kosovo), resent NATO, (particularly the UK and USA who did most of the actual bombing) for our role in Kosovo.

I don't think the Kosovan conflict was all we think it to be. The simple fact is, before the conflict, Kosovo was a province of Serbia and had many Serbs living there, and now, it isn't, and there are none. Kosovo is virtually pure Albanian. Now that, to me, sounds like ethnic cleansing, but isn't that what THEY were accused of? Whilst I am certainly not defending Serbs, I feel all is not as at seems there at all.



I think you are right on the Bosnia thing, I couldn't work out how to describe it and was just wanting to make the point about the anti-British feeling I encountered. I actually worked with a Serb during that time, he'd moved to the UK some years before and it was quite an interesting time getting a different view of the conflict.

As to the BBC - anti-Israeli? Not sure we need to go down this path on this thread, but my viewpoint is that they are just not pro-Israel like the vast majority of US media. They don't always have rabid right-wing Americans on either, in fact I find they speak to a lot of Democrats. As an aside - next week on Question Time, as it's the one prior to the Presidential election, they have Jerry Springer on (a Democrat) and an, as yet unnamed, "prominant Republican supporter" on. DW and I mused on that one and wondered - Clint Eastwood?!
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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #136 on: October 26, 2012, 05:22:38 PM »
Well, I generally don't go spouting off strongly held opinions in groups of people I don't know well, and that was true when I lived in the US, too.  I don't do it because I'm guarded and inauthentic, but because I don't want people I just met to think I'm a blowhard who lacks empathy.   :)

I'm with you on that.I would not engage a complete stranger on a controversial topic unless they approached me and maybe not even then.Every society has a  certain set of norms that are customary when it come to public interaction, and that includes casual conversation in and outside the work place. So really I was just being a bit of an anthropologist. Even the way people greet one another can be different in various cultures.Where I live in the States when ever I see a buddy from my social group(not my close friends) we usually greet with a handshake and the half hug,not to be confused with a full on hug. This type of greeting might be more of an American custom.I'm not sure if that is something you would see in the UK unless the people in question are very good friends.The brits might be more formal, maybe similar to the reputation that the Germans have.In my neck of the woods I usually always greet women in social settings with a chin kiss when receptive. These really are all just symbolic richuals but they are things that people do notice.


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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #137 on: October 26, 2012, 06:13:46 PM »
I usually always greet women in social settings with a chin kiss when receptive.

Chin kiss?!?!
I am trying to picture what you might mean by this, but not having much luck.  I do know that if anyone apart from my man ever tried to kiss my chin, it would be a 'no way' moment for me.

(edited once I recovered from the initial shock)
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« Reply #138 on: October 26, 2012, 07:29:06 PM »
This will reassure my mother, she is still despairing that we didn't end up having a proper Jewish wedding. (There are four rabbis in my family, so it wasn't for lack of choice of officiant. :) )
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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #139 on: October 26, 2012, 09:42:25 PM »
Four rabbis, wow!  I'm a northern Jew, too Jennie, but not a mum.
Meh, we only had one rabbi.


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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #140 on: October 26, 2012, 11:40:19 PM »
Chin kiss?!?!
I am trying to picture what you might mean by this, but not having much luck.  I do know that if anyone apart from my man ever tried to kiss my chin, it would be a 'no way' moment for me.

(edited once I recovered from the initial shock)

"when receptive"
You didn't notice the above part of my post. And yeah it's pretty par for the course in the area where I stay. It is a metropolitan attitude around here about those kind of things.Maybe not something done with a complete stranger but casual friends and good friends,yes.
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« Reply #141 on: October 27, 2012, 12:29:18 AM »
It's not the receptiveness, it's the image of someone kissing someone's chin as a social nicety. Do you mean a cheek to cheek kiss?
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« Reply #142 on: October 27, 2012, 07:33:23 AM »
I'm baffled by this too. If a man kissed me on the chin, I'd burst into a raging fit of the giggles.

Round here, it's the double cheek air kiss. Much better not to actually have to make contact!
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« Reply #143 on: October 27, 2012, 11:42:21 AM »
"when receptive"
You didn't notice the above part of my post.

Your assumption above is incorrect.
I read 'when receptive', but I cant imagine anyone being receptive to having their chin kissed.
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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #144 on: October 27, 2012, 12:15:58 PM »
Meh, we only had one rabbi.
Ha. Well, we didn't have any actually in the wedding itself. My dad's side has about 200 people we "had" to invite to the wedding, even cutting it all off at first cousins, so 4 rabbis blended right in. We had our best friend officiate though, then the rabbis taught all the people from the UK the hora. It was brilliant fun. :)


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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #145 on: October 27, 2012, 01:41:49 PM »
I'm baffled by this too. If a man kissed me on the chin, I'd burst into a raging fit of the giggles.

Round here, it's the double cheek air kiss. Much better not to actually have to make contact!

Baffled as well. So you kiss a friend with your lips on her chin?   :o :o
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« Reply #146 on: October 27, 2012, 05:03:38 PM »
Ha. Well, we didn't have any actually in the wedding itself. My dad's side has about 200 people we "had" to invite to the wedding, even cutting it all off at first cousins, so 4 rabbis blended right in. We had our best friend officiate though, then the rabbis taught all the people from the UK the hora. It was brilliant fun. :)

lol, when are you coming round to mine for Brisket?


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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #147 on: October 27, 2012, 10:45:04 PM »
lol, when are you coming round to mine for Brisket?

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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #148 on: October 27, 2012, 11:36:32 PM »
I'm baffled by this too. If a man kissed me on the chin, I'd burst into a raging fit of the giggles.
That can be a good thing ;D


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Re: Is the UK worth the change in life style and uprooting from America?
« Reply #149 on: October 27, 2012, 11:38:56 PM »
It's not the receptiveness, it's the image of someone kissing someone's chin as a social nicety. Do you mean a cheek to cheek kiss?

Exactly.I meant to say cheek.Not sure why I typed chin.Maybe it was late.


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