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Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« on: February 08, 2014, 06:14:08 PM »
Hello:

I am looking for help on the proper steps I need to complete for a fiance visa.  I have read numerous threads in this forum and I think I am more confused than ever and I have been to the UK Border Agency website as well and again I'm still confused.

I am an American and my fiance is a British citizen and lives in England. My fiance and I have met 3 years ago online and have met on two occasions and have numerous pictures and cards to prove a genuine relationship.  I understand that he will need to meet the 18,600 pound financial requirement and he does meet that...I'm assuming his pay stubs and contract from his employment would suffice.

My questions are as follows:

1.  Sponsoring: what is required from my fiance to sponsor me?
2.  Registering at the Registar's Office:  what will my fiance need to do to complete this process? and
     what will I need to show proof that he registered us for marry?
3.  Me being an American and can speak, read, write in English, would I still need to complete the
     English language requirement?  If not, then is there something on the application where I can put
     that I speak, read, write fluently in English?
4.  Fiance requirements: his weekly pay stubs, bank statements, contract from work, a letter that he
     will sponsor me - what will he need to include in this letter??? proof of where we will be living...is
     there anything else that he will need to supply for my application for fiance visa?
5.  I have read that I need evidence showing that we will be living together once married...what is
     needed for this....letter from his landlord? he is in process of buying a home...so once he buys
     a home...how do we show that I will be living w/ him?
6.  Biometrics....where do I get this done at? I live in Michigan...
7.  Finally, what are the application fees for a fiance visa?

I would appreciate any suggestions and/or help in any of this and thank you!







 


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2014, 07:12:59 PM »
I understand that he will need to meet the 18,600 pound financial requirement and he does meet that...I'm assuming his pay stubs and contract from his employment would suffice.
Not quite - there are very specific documents he must provide for the financial requirement:

- 6 continuous months of original payslips showing a salary of £1,550 or more (before tax)
- 6 months of original bank statements showing the deposit of each of the 6 payslips
- a letter from his employer, with specific details on it
- his job contract and most recent P60 (these are both optional, but it's a good idea to include them as UKBA may ask for them).

The specific documents he needs are listed on the financial requirements document:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/documents/policyandlaw/IDIs/chp8-annex/section-FM-1.7.pdf?view=Binary

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1.  Sponsoring: what is required from my fiance to sponsor me?
He will need to provide:

- his passport (or certified copy of his photo page)
- a letter of confirmation
- the financial requirement documents as listed above
- evidence of suitable accommodation for you to live in in the UK
- any relationship evidence that he has do add to your evidence

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2.  Registering at the Registar's Office:  what will my fiance need to do to complete this process? and what will I need to show proof that he registered us for marry?

You both have to be in the UK together in order to give notice to marry, so he cannot do it before you arrive. You will need to show your fiance visa to the registry office in order to give notice.

If you are marrying in England:
- you must both have been resident in the county you will marry for 7 days before you can give notice to marry
- the notice to marry must be displayed for 15 days before you can have the ceremony

So, you will need to be in the UK with your fiance visa for at least 22 days before you can marry.

So, for the fiance visa application, all you need to show is evidence of e-mail correspondence between you and the registry office enquiring about possible ceremony dates, or if you can make one, a provisional booking for a ceremony, plus any other organising you have already done for the wedding (pictures of the dress, the rings, any invitations you may have had done etc.)

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3.  Me being an American and can speak, read, write in English, would I still need to complete the English language requirement?  If not, then is there something on the application where I can put that I speak, read, write fluently in English?

People from predominantly English-speaking countries don't have to worry about the language requirements.

All you need to provide to show you meet the requirement is provide your US passport.

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4.  Fiance requirements: his weekly pay stubs, bank statements, contract from work, a letter that he will sponsor me - what will he need to include in this letter??? proof of where we will be living...is there anything else that he will need to supply for my application for fiance visa?

I've already listed what he needs to supply above, in reply to question 1.

An example sponsor letter is here:
http://www.londonelegance.com/transpondia/sites/default/files/spousal.pdf

Which is from Transpondia's site: http://www.londonelegance.com/transpondia/family-visas/spousal-visa

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5.  I have read that I need evidence showing that we will be living together once married...what is needed for this....letter from his landlord? he is in process of buying a home...so once he buys a home...how do we show that I will be living w/ him?

The proof of where you will live depends on his living situation:

- If he owns, you need to provide his land registry document and mortgage statements. That's it. He just needs to state in his sponsor letter that you will live there too.

- If he rents, you need to provide his tenancy agreement and a letter from his landlord giving you permission to live there too.

- If you will live with family members, you need a letter from them, plus their land registry document and mortgage statements.

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6.  Biometrics....where do I get this done at? I live in Michigan...

You will be prompted to book a biometrics appointment when you submit your visa application online.

You can get biometrics done at any of the 129 UCSIC Application Support Centers across the US.

There are 4 centers in Michigan that you can choose from:
https://egov.uscis.gov/crisgwi/go?action=offices.summary&OfficeLocator.office_type=ASC&OfficeLocator.statecode=MI

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7.  Finally, what are the application fees for a fiance visa?

Current fee in US dollars is $1,404 (this is likely to increase in April).

There is also a Settlement Priority Service that costs $300 extra and can be purchased on the day you mail your application and documents to Sheffield. It will get your application put to the front of the processing line and so can speed up the processing time.


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2014, 09:46:47 PM »
Thank you ksand...I now understand.  I guess it is easier and most economical if my fiance came here to marry then I apply for a spousal visa.

Thanks again for your help..have a great evening.


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2014, 11:08:47 PM »
Thank you ksand...I now understand.  I guess it is easier and most economical if my fiance came here to marry then I apply for a spousal visa.

No problem :).

Yes, it's probably easier to marry in the US and apply for a spousal visa, as it means one less visa to apply for. Also, you can work immediately in the UK on a spousal visa, but with a fiance visa, you have to wait until after you are married and have your next visa before you can work.


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2014, 11:38:33 PM »
Thank you again ksand....now would you be willing to help me with the conditions of applying for a spousal visa and what needs to be done? Also the cost of applying for a spousal visa? I do think we will be going this route.

Thank you! :)


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2014, 11:50:01 PM »
Me again  :D I was reading in the other forum and a member asked if they can fly to England (where her fiance lives) and marry there (with a US passport) then return back to the states and then apply for a spousal visa to the UK....is this correct? I have looked on the UK gov website and I don't see anything supporting this....that site is so confusing to me.

I have no idea how to go about applying for and what documents are needed from both fiance and myself and the cost on applying...need some serious help.

Thank you!


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2014, 12:28:28 AM »
You need a visa to marry in the UK. 

If you intend to marry in the UK and live in the UK then you need a fiancé visa.  If you intend to marry in the UK and live elsewhere then you need a marriage visit visa. 


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 01:51:50 PM »
That is what I thought but in one of the threads in this forum someone replied that that person would not need a visa...just pointing out that someone supplied misinformation.

Thank you again ksand...would you mind pointing me in the correct direction on how to go about applying for a spousal visa?

Thank you in advance.


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 02:01:18 PM »
That is what I thought but in one of the threads in this forum someone replied that that person would not need a visa...just pointing out that someone supplied misinformation.

Technically, it is possible to marry in the UK as a visitor, then return to the US to apply for a spousal visa. However, you would still need to apply for a visa to do this: the Marriage Visitor Visa. And you would also have to prove that you had no intention of living in the UK after the wedding and that you had a home, a job and a life to return to in the US afterwards.

If you know that you wish to live in the UK after the wedding, you are supposed to apply for a fiance visa, and then switch to an FLR(M) visa from inside the UK after you are married.

Alternatively, you can marry in the US and then apply for the spousal visa before moving to the UK.

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Thank you again ksand...would you mind pointing me in the correct direction on how to go about applying for a spousal visa?

See here: http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 02:44:47 PM »
The link you provided me is all too confusing...I was hoping for some other guidance on what is needed to apply for a spousal visa...we have decided to go this route.

Thank you


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 03:09:08 PM »
The link you provided me is all too confusing...I was hoping for some other guidance on what is needed to apply for a spousal visa...we have decided to go this route.

What are you having trouble finding? All the information on how to apply for the spousal visa can be found using the links on the left hand side of the page:

The 'Can You Apply?' link lists the requirements of the visa:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/can-you-apply/

The 'Documents Required' link lists the documents you need to apply for the visa:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/documents/

The 'Applying from Outside the UK' link tells you how to apply from outside the UK:
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/partners-families/citizens-settled/spouse-cp/apply-outside-uk/

- The bottom link on the right hand side of the 'Applying from Outside the UK' page has a supporting documents guidance
- Also, the top link on the right hand side is the paper version of the application form, the VAF4a.
- You have to apply online in the US (here), but you can use the VAF4a for reference so you get an idea of the questions.
- Just underneath this is VAF4a Appendix 2, which you will also need to print out and fill in by hand.

The link to Transpondia's website, that I gave you in a post above, details exactly how you apply for the visa and what documents to include:
http://www.londonelegance.com/transpondia/family-visas/spousal-visa


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2014, 03:13:36 PM »
The links are confusing, but since every situation is different you really need to read through all the documents to decide what you need to submit as evidence. The only thing that's the same for everyone is needing to complete the vaf4a, appendix 2, and submit your passport and marriage certificate.

Since you are in the US you will complete the vaf4a online, which is pretty straightforward.
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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2014, 03:26:59 PM »
Thank you both ksand and sputinka...yes it can be confusing and overwhelming...I guess I'm one of those that need things to be clear cut and concise.

Another question...am I able to apply for a spousal visa in the UK (after we marry and I travel back to the UK w/ my newly married husband?) or am I limited to applying here in the States?


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2014, 03:35:17 PM »
Thank you both ksand and sputinka...yes it can be confusing and overwhelming...I guess I'm one of those that need things to be clear cut and concise.

Another question...am I able to apply for a spousal visa in the UK (after we marry and I travel back to the UK w/ my newly married husband?) or am I limited to applying here in the States?

If you marry in the US you need to apply for a spouse visa in the US.  You have to apply from your normal place of residence which is the US.  You cannot change from a  UK visit visa to any other kind of visa.


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Re: Fiance Visa - what are the proper steps?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2014, 03:36:42 PM »
Another question...am I able to apply for a spousal visa in the UK (after we marry and I travel back to the UK w/ my newly married husband?) or am I limited to applying here in the States?

No, you have to apply in the US before you travel to the UK. You cannot switch from a visitor visa to an FLR(M) visa from inside the UK.

The only way to apply from inside the UK is if you are already living in the UK on a different visa:

- if you got the fiance visa first, then married in the UK and switched to FLR(M).

- if you were living in the UK on a work visa or a student visa and then married in the UK and switched to FLR(M).

If you marry in the US, as you will not already have a visa that allows you to live in the UK, you cannot apply in the UK, you have to get the spousal visa in the US before you fly over.

Also, it would be difficult for you to enter the UK without the spousal visa anyway, because you would be a visitor and would have to prove that you had no intention of living in the UK and that you had return ticket, were going to return to the US within 6 months and you had a life (a job and a home) back in the US to return to.


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