FLR (M) Spouse Visa Renewal Supporting Document Checklist

ah, ok...I can try to find other mail for the months I have payslips. Aug-Sep for 2015? for both of us?

Can anyone confirm if I can use payslips as correspondence? I feel like I have so much mail but not able to spread it across correctly.

Can anyone confirm if I can use payslips as correspondence? I feel like I have so much mail but not able to spread it across correctly.

Well, payslips are not explicitly listed on the application form as acceptable documents, but then again, it just says 'examples of' acceptable documents, so it may not be an exhaustive list.

If you're applying in person, then I would take them anyway and see if they will accept them in the case that your other correspondence is not suitable.

From the application form:

Examples of acceptable items of correspondence
• Letters or other documents from government departments or agencies, for example HM Revenue and Customs, Department for Work and Pensions, DVLA, TV Licensing.
• Letters or other documents from your GP, a hospital or other local health service about
medical treatments, appointments, home visits or other medical matters
• Bank statements/letters
• Building society savings books/letters
• Council tax bills or statements
• Electricity and/or gas bills or statements
• Water rates bills or statements
• Mortgage statements/agreement
• Tenancy agreement(s)
• Telephone bills or statements

Thank you! I am working on the application now and not sure how to answer section 5.2: When did you first enter the UK? Does this mean the date I entered after my spouse visa was approved (18th June 2014)? I spent nearly 6 months here in 2013 as a tourist (no visa).

Thank you! I am working on the application now and not sure how to answer section 5.2: When did you first enter the UK? Does this mean the date I entered after my spouse visa was approved (18th June 2014)? I spent nearly 6 months here in 2013 as a tourist (no visa).

I would go with the date you moved to the UK on your spousal visa, since that is what the questions are asking you about.

The next question is 'In what category were you granted permission to enter the UK?', and for this, you want to put the spousal visa.

Thanks...would this be the same for question 6.7: When did you start living together in a relationship? We did live together when I was here as a tourist Oct 2013-March 2014 and have lived together ever since I arrived in June 2014 on my spouse visa.

Thanks...would this be the same for question 6.7: When did you start living together in a relationship? We did live together when I was here as a tourist Oct 2013-March 2014 and have lived together ever since I arrived in June 2014 on my spouse visa.

I'd put the date you started legally living together on your spousal visa, because:

a) that's the important date, as you need to be able to show you have been continuously living together during your spousal visa
and
b) technically you were not living together on your visitor visa, because you could not legally live in the UK yet... you were just visiting him temporarily as a tourist.

Hi Ksand - just a question on this topic. I know I'm getting ahead of myself as I wait for my spousal visa. When I arrive to the UK I plan on living with my husbands mom before we find a suitable place to live together (plus we have to plan and do a religious ceremony before we can). Am I required to be living with him upon arrival legally and am I going to screw myself over for evidence when I do eventually apply for FLRM in 2.5 years time? Trying to think ahead/plan ahead.

Thank you!

Hi Ksand - just a question on this topic. I know I'm getting ahead of myself as I wait for my spousal visa. When I arrive to the UK I plan on living with my husbands mom before we find a suitable place to live together (plus we have to plan and do a religious ceremony before we can). Am I required to be living with him upon arrival legally and am I going to screw myself over for evidence when I do eventually apply for FLRM in 2.5 years time? Trying to think ahead/plan ahead.

Will he be living in his mum's house with you, or will you be at his mum's house and he'll be living somewhere else?

In order to get your spousal visa, you have to show you will be living at the same address, and have evidence that you both have permission to live there together.

This could be his mum's house, or it could be a rented place... the point is that you are under the same roof at the same time.

When you apply for FLR(M), you will need to provide 2 years of evidence of living together... by way of letters and documents addressed to both of you at the same address as each other.

Will he be living in his mum's house with you, or will you be at his mum's house and he'll be living somewhere else?

In order to get your spousal visa, you have to show you will be living at the same address, and have evidence that you both have permission to live there together.

This could be his mum's house, or it could be a rented place... the point is that you are under the same roof at the same time.

When you apply for FLR(M), you will need to provide 2 years of evidence of living together... by way of letters and documents addressed to both of you at the same address as each other.

I submitted my spousal visa app on the 25th. I have permission to live at his mothers which I included in my app for my accommodation. It's a fully paid for 3 bedroom house with only her living there (all explained in the accommodation letter and with the land registry). In his sponser letter he specified that he will be living down the road at his current flat and that when I get to the UK we will find a suitable home together (She gave me permission to live there as long as I like tho).  Does this mean my spousal visa will get denied? Is there anything I can do in the mean time? I can have her send a second letter to send to sheffield to explain that he is more then welcome to live at his mothers too under the same roof and there is sufficient space and not an issue. I'm now panicking.   :/

I submitted my spousal visa app on the 25th. I have permission to live at his mothers which I included in my app for my accommodation. It's a fully paid for 3 bedroom house with only her living there (all explained in the accommodation letter and with the land registry). In his sponser letter he specified that he will be living down the road at his current flat and that when I get to the UK we will find a suitable home together (She gave me permission to live there as long as I like tho).  Does this mean my spousal visa will get denied? Is there anything I can do in the mean time? I can have her send a second letter to send to sheffield to explain that he is more then welcome to live at his mothers too under the same roof and there is sufficient space and not an issue. I'm now panicking.   

You can't add anything to the application once it has been mailed, unless they contact you to ask for more documents.

I honestly don't know if this will affect the visa decision but all you can do now is wait and see what happens.

The accommodation requirement of the spousal visa is:

-    you intend to continue living with your family member or partner in the UK after you apply (unless you’re a parent who has access to the child)
-    you and your family will have an adequate place to live in the UK

So, it's not just about showing YOU have somewhere to live (i.e. his mum's), it's about showing HE will also live there with you as well and that will you have a bedroom to share in that property.

To do this, you either provide his current tenancy agreement along with a letter from his landlord giving you permission to live there too, or you provide a letter from his mum, along with her Land Registry document, giving BOTH of you permission to live in her house together.

The requirements for accommodation are:

 9. MAA9 Assessing adequate accommodation

The ECO should be satisfied that the accommodation complies with the following requirements:

-    it is (or will be) owned or legally occupied for the exclusive use of the couple (see definition in section below); and
-    it is capable of accommodating the couple, and any children, without overcrowding as defined in the Housing Act 1985 (see MAA134).

Depending on the circumstances of the case, there may be other relevant factors; for example, the ECO should be satisfied that housing the couple in rented accommodation will not be in breach of any tenancy agreement as regards sub-letting (see below).

and

10. MAA10 Legally owned or exclusively occupied

The ECO should consider the basis of the availability and security of tenure of the accommodation. Factors to be taken into account will include:

    the ownership of the property and/or the duration of a lease
    whether any lease enables the tenant to sublet to the couple or take them in as lodgers.

If the accommodation is not owned by the couple (or one of them), the Rules require that there be adequate accommodation which is for their exclusive use. This need not be as elaborate as a self-contained flat. It is acceptable for a couple to live in an existing household, for example, that of a parent, uncle, aunt, sibling or friend, as long as they have at least a bedroom for their exclusive use.

If the couple have children with them there must be additional adequate accommodation for them (see MAA134 for maximum numbers of persons allowed).

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa--2#maa6-accommodation-general-requirements

You can't add anything to the application once it has been mailed, unless they contact you to ask for more documents.

I honestly don't know if this will affect the visa decision but all you can do now is wait and see what happens.

The accommodation requirement of the spousal visa is:
So, it's not just about showing YOU have somewhere to live (i.e. his mum's), it's about showing HE will also live there with you as well and that will you have a bedroom to share in that property.

To do this, you either provide his current tenancy agreement along with a letter from his landlord giving you permission to live there too, or you provide a letter from his mum, along with her Land Registry document, giving BOTH of you permission to live in her house together.

The requirements for accommodation are:
andhttps://www.gov.uk/government/publications/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa/maintenance-and-accommodation-maa--2#maa6-accommodation-general-requirements

Thank you so much for your help.  I wish I could go back in time. Reading this means it will likely be a denial. I didn't show that HE will be living there too. His mothers letter says that I have permission to live in her 3 bedroom home. My husbands letter says that he will be living at his current flat upon my arrival until we find a suitable place together. (we were gonna go to the mosque then flat hunt when I got there - but now I wish I said he'd move in her house because i don't have to sleep in the same room as him and let religion make me screw my visa up). The only way we wouldn't get denied is if the ECO recognizes that her house isn't going to be an overcrowding and for some weird reason gives us the chance to explain ourselves and why don't we just live at his moms.

Is there any email address I can send an email to inquiring? I just spoke to his mom and she drafted a second letter which gives him permission to live in her house too and I can attach it in an email and say that I can mail an original as well etc.

 I just really want to catch this before a refusal as I won't be able to afford a second visa. I understand its my fault.

It was a non priority visa which i got a confirmation for last week on the 25th. Theres a national enquiry email or number I suppose I could try?

Thanks a bunch though. Had a feeling I would mess this visa up doing it myself :/

I'd put the date you started legally living together on your spousal visa, because:

a) that's the important date, as you need to be able to show you have been continuously living together during your spousal visa
and
b) technically you were not living together on your visitor visa, because you could not legally live in the UK yet... you were just visiting him temporarily as a tourist.

Thank you! I think I have everything answered on the application. Can you let me know if the list below is ok for correspondence? I have so many letters but feel like I am not showing enough with the list below:

Applicant
- Mar 2015 (Feb-May) - SSE Scottish Hydro Electric bill
- Jul 2015 (Jun-Sep) – Pension Statement Letter
- Jan 2016 (Oct-Jan) – O2 Bill
- Mar 2016 (Feb-May) – SSE Scottish Hydro Gas Bill
- Sep 2016 (Jun-Sep) –  Letter from North East Scotland College
- Dec 2016 (Oct-Jan) – SSE Scottish Hydro Electric Bill

Sponsor
- Feb 2015 (Feb-May) – Letter from Sky
- Sep 2015 (Jun-Sep) – Letter from American Express
- Dec 2015 (Oct-Jan) – O2 Bill
- Mar 2016 (Feb-May) – Letter from Aberdeen City Council Tax Bill
- July 2016 (Jun-Sep) – Denplan – Letter confirming dental coverage for both
- Dec 2016 (Oct-Jan) – AXA PPP Healthcare – Letter confirming private healthcare for both

I wish I could go back in time. Reading this means it will likely be a denial. I didn't show that HE will be living there too. His mothers letter says that I have permission to live in her 3 bedroom home. My husbands letter says that he will be living at his current flat upon my arrival until we find a suitable place together.

I wouldn't give up just yet - I'd just wait and see what happens. Did you/he explain that the reason you won't be living together immediately is because of your religion? If so, that may be taken into account and it may be okay.

(we were gonna go to the mosque then flat hunt when I got there - but now I wish I said he'd move in her house because i don't have to sleep in the same room as him and let religion make me screw my visa up)

The thing is that you don't actually have to end up living where you say you will in the application - your plans might change, after all. You just have to show that you have SOMEWHERE you can go, where both of you can live in the same bedroom... so that you don't end up on the streets.

The fact that you need to have the religious ceremony first before you live together has no bearing on the accommodation requirement - you just show that you WILL have somewhere to live together when you are able to.

The only way we wouldn't get denied is if the ECO recognizes that her house isn't going to be an overcrowding and for some weird reason gives us the chance to explain ourselves and why don't we just live at his moms.

Overcrowding or not has nothing to do with it. If only his mum lives there and it's a 3-bedroom house, then they will immediately know it won't be overcrowded with both of you living there. Overcrowding would only be an issue if more than 7.5 people will be living in the property at the same time.

The issue here is that you haven't provided evidence that you will live in the same property. In fact, you've provided evidence that you WON'T live together... which means they may decide you don't meet the accommodation requirement.

Is there any email address I can send an email to inquiring? I just spoke to his mom and she drafted a second letter which gives him permission to live in her house too and I can attach it in an email and say that I can mail an original as well etc.

I'm afraid not. You cannot add extra evidence after you have mailed the application UNLESS they email you to request it. If not, then they can only consider what arrived in your original package.

It was a non priority visa which i got a confirmation for last week on the 25th. Theres a national enquiry email or number I suppose I could try?

Not really - there's an enquiry service, but they are just a call centre who has no access to your application... all they can do is type your application number/name in to their system and see what it says about your application status.

Thanks for your patience and quick response. He didn't mention religion in the letter as we didn't want it to get more confusing.

Fingers crossed they contact us or his mom (w the info she provided in her letter) for clarification as to why his name is not included in the accommodation permission letter. Hopefully the ECO notices the accommodation I have permission for is a) his mom b) there is place for us to live together. But as you said, we've actually given them evidence later in the package that he plans to be across the street till we find a suitable flat together.

I'll just have to wait and see. Thank you :/ <3