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Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« on: April 05, 2017, 02:02:10 AM »
Hi there Everyone!



I'm a longtime lurker who, today, finally made the decision to become a full part of this community. Yesterday, I shipped off my fiancee visa application packet for (Priority) processing in Sheffield. My lawyer believes my fiancee and I will receive a positive decision. However, a couple things worry me.

I warn you in advance that this may be a long post. Here goes...

I have a single black spot on my record; a 6.5-year-old (2010) Class B misdemeanor resulting from a stupid mistake I made during a post-collegiate sojourn in California (charged with and convicted of 1 count of Solicitation of Prostitution after being targeted in a Backpage sting after a week of working as a tantric masseuse). I was given 3 years' unsupervised probation, a choice between fines and court costs or 9 days community service (I chose the fines due to not being able to take time off from my day job), a community class on AIDS, and an AIDS test (negative, of course) which I needed to show the judge. When my dear Mr. Ross proposed, I decided to look into and pursue expungement options. I found that California's version of "expungement" is, sadly, just the removal of a "guilty" plea and the dismissal of the original complaint. Yet, as it was the best option available, I chose to pursue that, and was granted my "dismissal pursuant to 1203.4" in May 2016.

My lawyers do not seem to think this will result in a rejection. First of all, my offence was one which would not be considered illegal in the UK (online ad was appropriately-worded with no nudity; everything took place behind closed doors; I was the only person using the room/place aside from a client). Secondly, my sentence was a non-custodial one (technically ISS -- no sentence was handed down; I was just placed on unsupervised probation and given the terms). I spent a night in detention directly following my arrest, but that was before charges were pressed and a month before my court date.
Third, I have applied for and received dismissal pursuant to 1203.4, which will hopefully help demonstrate to the UK that my offence was a one-off incident, and that I am not a habitual criminal or "bad person".

Yet I am still worried about one thing where this is concerned -- to serve as proof of non-criminality, I have submitted my FBI record. It shows that I was only arrested the one time, and accurately reflects my penalty. However, it was never updated to reflect my dismissal. We've included plenty of other proof of the case's dismissal in my application packet -- the order for dismissal, the updated court records, and a screencap from the LA Superior Court's website showing the case's disposition as "dismissed" -- I only hope that will be enough for the Home Office, and that they will understand the FBI's record of failing to properly update (i'm working on that now, for what it's worth).

While the above misdemeanor is my major concern, there are a few other small issues that have been keeping me up at night. First of all, I have several minor traffic offences on my record, the most recent of which was an Assured Clear Distance Ahead citation from July 2013. All traffic violations resulted in fines. My concern is that, though I provided my solicitors with every violation (having acquired documentation of every violation and ticket payment to ensure I did not miss anything or state any incorrect information), they did not list every traffic violation specifically (aside from those they could list on the application) in their lodgement letter, only stating that the minor offences exist. They claim this will be acceptable. I would hope they know what they are doing, as visas are the specialty of their firm.

Finally, I have visited seven times over the past 3 years. Ross proposed 4 days into my fifth visit -- and what was supposed to be a 3-week visit transformed into a 5-month, 30-day maxed-out visit for the year. I have visited twice since then with no incident or trouble (beyond an honest explanation) at the border, but I hope it does not cause the UK Home Office any additional concerns about granting me entry. To my credit, I have never engaged in any sort of work while in the UK (unless cooking meals for my fiancee  or making Christmas cards for his family count as "unpaid work" - I have read some horror stories on these forums).

I suppose I'm looking for peace of mind, advice, and support, if any is on offer. While my fiance (and our solicitors) are optimistic, I sometimes struggle with blind positivity in cases like this. I do hope everything turns out alright -- I honestly cannot envision a future without my beloved Ross.

Thanks for reading/listening. I'm aware that these sort of journeys are never easy, and that many of you have struggled mightily with the immigration process as well. No matter where you are, personally, along this road, I am sending loads of love and positive energy to every one of you.

Thanks again,

Rachel





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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2017, 02:58:40 AM »
first off, welcome. I think all of us are/were looking for reassurance that it will be ok. I cant tell you will, but there are statistics that the vast majority of American applicants are approved.

Your case was exceptional so the first thing they would have told you was to get a lawyer.

take a deep breath, have a glass of wine or two if you are so inclined. your package is gone and you just have to wait. Regardless of the outcome everyone here is amazing support and if it as negative now, who knows someone on here maybe able to help you going forward! Think positive by end of the summer you and your ross could be on your way to getting married!
Met Dublin Ireland- July 2013
Long distance from November 2014-2016
Married 😍 in NYC :6th of January 2017
Spouse Visa Approved!! : 27th of February 2017
Moved to UK: 28th of April 2017

Applied FLR(M)-  12th January 2020
Biometrics- 20th of January 2020


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2017, 03:12:16 AM »
Thank you so much. Our lawyers tell us we tick every box for approval.

By end of the summer we could be on our way? Here's hoping we are --
we have booked a venue, scheduled a registry appointment, and set the date for August 19th...!

Thank you so much again,

Rachel


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2017, 09:09:57 AM »
Did you apply with priority?  I'd always caution against booking too much wedding stuff until the visa comes through.  UKVI sucks all the romance out of weddings.  Hopefully the dates will be just fine though (should be with priority processing).  Just depends on if your council makes you wait 70 days or only 28 days for a notice period.


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2017, 10:22:33 AM »
We did apply with priority!Ross's local council, thankfully, only requires a 28-day waiting period.

Checked UPS yesterday - our package is due to arrive today!
<3

--Rachel--


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2017, 10:33:07 AM »
Great news, with priority you'll likely make your target wedding date. 

It's actually the Home Office that requires 70 days for foreign nationals, but usually you don't have to wait more than 28 days if you have a fiancé visa.

https://www.gov.uk/marriages-civil-partnerships/foreign-national


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 10:41:33 AM »
If it makes you feel better, I had a wide variety of stupid things I did as a teenager and none of them have caused me trouble so far, and I've been here years. 

Good luck, and once again I am amazed at how interesting people are. 


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 12:10:45 PM »
If it makes you feel better, I had a wide variety of stupid things I did as a teenager and none of them have caused me trouble so far, and I've been here years. 

So far? Did you put these on your visa applications? If you did, there is nothing to worry about.
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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 01:02:41 PM »
So far? Did you put these on your visa applications? If you did, there is nothing to worry about.

Can't you "get away with more" on the EU route too Sirius? ... no offence Jimbo.  :)


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 03:25:33 PM »
Yay, hope you get good news!
Online application submitted April 5, 2017
Biometrics & shipping to UK April 17, 2017
Email confirmation from Sheffield April 24, 2017
Submitted ToR May 12, 2017
Decision email: June 2, 2017


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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2017, 03:28:02 PM »
Can't you "get away with more" on the EU route too Sirius? ... no offence Jimbo.  :)

Yeah, with lots. i.e. a foreign sex offender in not allowed in the UK, unless they come in via the EU routes: criminals the UK has deported are allowed back into the UK via the EU routes.

But jimbocz said he has ILR and that is the UK immigration road and would have needed UK visa applications.
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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #11 on: April 05, 2017, 03:30:05 PM »
Yeah, with lots. i.e. a foreign sex offender in not allowed in the UK, unless they come in via the EU routes.

But jimbocz said he has ILR and that is the UK immigration road and would have needed UK visa applications.

Oh, my mistake, I thought he was here because of his French wife.  Sorry jimbo.
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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2017, 03:41:27 PM »
Bloody heck, sex offenders? Violent criminals? No wonder my lawyer views my single, dismissed, not-even-technically-illegal-in-the-UK, 6.5-year-old (class B misdemeanor), non-custodial sentenced, offense of stupidly agreeing to engage in a lewd behavior for pay with an undercover officer  as relatively minute!

Despite that, I have been bogged down by regret since that event, and have beaten myself up internally a great deal for making that mistake. One of the reasons I have become so open in discussing it since gaining expungement/dismissal is that I wish to gain forgiveness from society - I want reassurance that this single, silly mistake does not brand me an irrevocably irredeemable abomination. :(

I would like to thank this community from the bottom of my heart for being so welcoming and supportive.

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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2017, 03:54:14 PM »
Bloody heck, sex offenders? Violent criminals?

They are allowed to live the UK under EU laws, while the UK is in the EU. They will never be granted British citizenship as they fail the Good Character requirement

No wonder my lawyer views my single, dismissed, not-even-technically-illegal-in-the-UK, 6.5-year-old (class B misdemeanor), non-custodial sentenced, offense of stupidly agreeing to engage in a lewd behavior for pay with an undercover officer  as relatively minute!

I don't think the UK will see that as a biggie. 'scus the pun. :)

It's not declaring offences that is the problem with UK visa applications.



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Re: Hopeful, but Riddled with Concerns and Worries
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2017, 03:58:19 PM »
Bloody heck, sex offenders? Violent criminals? No wonder my lawyer views my single, dismissed, not-even-technically-illegal-in-the-UK, 6.5-year-old (class B misdemeanor), non-custodial sentenced, offense of stupidly agreeing to engage in a lewd behavior for pay with an undercover officer  as relatively minute!

Despite that, I have been bogged down by regret since that event, and have beaten myself up internally a great deal for making that mistake. One of the reasons I have become so open in discussing it since gaining expungement/dismissal is that I wish to gain forgiveness from society - I want reassurance that this single, silly mistake does not brand me an irrevocably irredeemable abomination. :(

I would like to thank this community from the bottom of my heart for being so welcoming and supportive.

Glad to have you with us!  :D


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