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Job application timing question
« on: December 31, 2017, 02:43:07 PM »
Hey everyone,
I just wanted some opinions.
I came over on a fiance visa in July and as you know I can't work on it. We applied for our FLR-M on December 11th and have done biometrics. If the 6-8 week timeline holds I should be getting an answer toward the last two weeks of January.

I've been looking for jobs to just to get some ideas and I've found a couple that I really like--- one specifically. A friend of mine, also an American, works at the place I'm interested in applying. She told me to go ahead and apply because it generally takes them a long time to contact you for an interview and that I will likely have to back by the time they contact me.  However, I'm worried about whether or not I should apply. The posting closes on Jan 2nd or 3rd so I'm just trying to get some advice.

Thanks a bunch!
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2017, 02:48:57 PM »
Hey everyone,
I just wanted some opinions.
I came over on a fiance visa in July and as you know I can't work on it. We applied for our FLR-M on December 11th and have done biometrics. If the 6-8 week timeline holds I should be getting an answer toward the last two weeks of January.

I've been looking for jobs to just to get some ideas and I've found a couple that I really like--- one specifically. A friend of mine, also an American, works at the place I'm interested in applying. She told me to go ahead and apply because it generally takes them a long time to contact you for an interview and that I will likely have to back by the time they contact me.  However, I'm worried about whether or not I should apply. The posting closes on Jan 2nd or 3rd so I'm just trying to get some advice.

Thanks a bunch!

You aren't eligible to apply as you don't have your FLR and aren't eligible to work until you have that.
The usual. American girl meets British guy. They fall into like, then into love. Then there was the big decision. The American traveled across the pond to join the Brit. And life was never the same again.


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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2017, 02:49:51 PM »
It’s fine to go ahead and apply for jobs before you get your FLR(M), as long as you don’t actually start working until you have it.

The only issue might be that because you don’t currently have the right to work in the UK, they may not be willing to interview or hire you.

I’d say there’s no harm in applying though, especially if it could take a while for an interview.


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Job application timing question
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2017, 02:51:04 PM »
You aren't eligible to apply as you don't have your FLR and aren't eligible to work until you have that.

But people without visas can apply for jobs and even interview on a visitor visa... so why would this be different?

As long as you don’t physically start working before you get it, I don’t see the problem.

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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2017, 02:51:57 PM »
You aren't eligible to apply as you don't have your FLR and aren't eligible to work until you have that.

Applying is fine, she just can't start work until she has the FLR(M).

Recruitment can take a long time, so I'd go ahead and make the application.
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2017, 02:55:33 PM »
oooh yay! Thanks everyone :) I'll go ahead and look into it further.
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2017, 02:57:01 PM »
It’s fine to go ahead and apply for jobs before you get your FLR(M), as long as you don’t actually start working until you have it.

The only issue might be that because you don’t currently have the right to work in the UK, they may not be willing to interview or hire you.

I’d say there’s no harm in applying though, especially if it could take a while for an interview.


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Unless the rules changed they say you aren't even allowed to actively look for work while you're on your marriage settlement/fiance visa. Since she's on that visa until she receives FLR that would be breaking that rule, wouldn't it?
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2017, 03:01:48 PM »
Unless the rules changed they say you aren't even allowed to actively look for work while you're on your marriage settlement/fiance visa. Since she's on that visa until she receives FLR that would be breaking that rule, wouldn't it?

Which part of the rules is that?

I'm looking on the main Family visa pages and it just says:

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If you’re applying as a fiancé, fiancée or proposed civil partner

You won’t be able to work during your engagement.
(https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/partner-spouse)

and the immigration rules have no mention of looking for work, they just say you cannot work:
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Leave to enter as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner

291. A person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom as a fiance(e) or proposed civil partner may be admitted, with a prohibition on employment, for a period not exceeding 6 months to enable the marriage or civil partnership to take place provided a valid United Kingdom entry clearance for entry in this capacity is produced to the Immigration Officer on arrival.
(https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-part-8-family-members)


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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2017, 03:06:53 PM »
oooh yay! Thanks everyone :) I'll go ahead and look into it further.

Good luck!  :D
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2017, 03:15:11 PM »
Which part of the rules is that?

I'm looking on the main Family visa pages and it just says:
(https://www.gov.uk/uk-family-visa/partner-spouse)

and the immigration rules have no mention of looking for work, they just say you cannot work:(https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-part-8-family-members)

Last time I looked they did. Heck, I could even find posts on here where people were told not to apply until they had their FLR.

I wouldn't do it since you aren't eligible to work but I am outnumbered. Hopefully the company isn't using an agency as you have to go in for a meeting with the agency and provide them your BRP and passport before the company can interview you.
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2017, 03:23:56 PM »
Last time I looked they did. Heck, I could even find posts on here where people were told not to apply until they had their FLR.

I don’t ever recall that being part of the rules, to be honest.

I seem to remember there have been quite a few people who already had jobs lined up ready for when they received their FLR(M) visa.

If someone can interview and accept a job on a visitor visa before they even know if they can get a visa to work in the UK yet, I don’t see why someone who already lives in the UK and who has applied for a visa that allows work and will receive it in the next few weeks can’t do it.


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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2017, 04:19:17 PM »
I appreciate all the advice---
I haven't made a decision yet, I'm going to sleep on it.
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2018, 11:21:27 AM »
If you're sending your CV directly to a company email you'd be okay. It's the application programs ( they ask about right to work) or agencies that act as gatekeepers that will be an issue.

They've already got one American working there, they know the process.
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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #13 on: January 01, 2018, 11:41:21 AM »
If you're sending your CV directly to a company email you'd be okay. It's the application programs ( they ask about right to work) or agencies that act as gatekeepers that will be an issue.

They've already got one American working there, they know the process.
I had several websites request my NIN and I couldn't progress with the application until I supplied it.

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Re: Job application timing question
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2018, 12:51:21 PM »
Yeah, so I just read all the posts about the NIN---awesome that they make everything such a pain. So it's probably not even worth me applying since I can't get that until I have my visa.
Engaged-Jun 16
Applied online(fiance/marriage)-17 Apr 17
Biometrics- 21 Apr 17
Application rec'd Sheffield-26 Apr 17
Decision email- 2 Jun 17-Approved!
Moved to UK-17 Jul 17
Married-5 Oct 17
FLR-M App Sent- 11 Dec 17
Biometrics letter received- 22 Dec 17
Biometrics taken- 23 Dec 17


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