held at immigration:(

I think she'll just have to apply for a visitor's visa.  The visa waiver program isn't available to her now, so she'll have to go through the motions of applying like someone from a non VWP country.

Ladymoonwalker, I'm really sorry you've had to go through all of this, but I think you've given lots of people a good lesson.  It always pays to be honest when you're asked a direct question by an IO....the fact that you denied Patrick was your boyfriend multiple times couldn't have done you any favors!   

I agree with Lola. It is hard not to lie in these situations, but lying must be the worst possible thing to do. From here on in let's go by the book, even if it takes a while. You will get here, Shala!

I think she'll just have to apply for a visitor's visa.  The visa waiver program isn't available to her now, so she'll have to go through the motions of applying like someone from a non VWP country.

It never occurred to me that there was any such creature!   DUH!!    Of course there is... i guess its just that i'd never heard of an American using this option.

you guys ROCK
i dont knwo what i would do without this site i really don't. I finally told one of my clostest friends what happend. she was like" WHY DIDNT U TELL ME OMG SHALA dont not tell us things"  i just was embarrased.
  OKAY
so her's whats up
I filled out the form online and had that sent out today. TOMORROW  we are sending out the FED EX package. My dad put money ( more much more) into my account so i can have a statment .. and I applied to just go for 2 months and 3 weeks ( aug. 19-nov. 11th) i am waiting on the confrimation from Birtish airways on the ticket ( u know u cant BUY the ticket but they need a confirmation - thankx  MISSY *HUGS*)
   PLEASE undersatnd that I am NOT in any way a good liar. I think they could tell that. I hate lying so bad. and felt so bad in saying patch was not my boyfriend  aweee.. but i didnt know what to do.. I shoulda said something but i was afraid to .. NEXT TIME i will be honest if i am further questioned. If i am asked during my phone interview i wonder should I say no or not. I feel bad when i sneak a cookie out the cubard and i am 28. LOL.
 ANYway. where it said where i was staying i put Patrick Mulcrone and his family.
 His parents are writting a letter stating I may stay with them for free and that they are BRITISH Citizens ect....     
   so anyway. This has tought me to ask LOTS of questions of people around me. My family and friends have been so supportive, Even though some of them ar mad I didnt ask them questions when they live in U. K. but hello they dont know everything sometimes
  *HUGS* TO ALL OF YOU
  and by the way when i meant proper visa. i meant that i had to apply for one
*HUGS*
GOING away for a week. My sister is letting me stay at her house. my aunt and her family are visiting and my room was promised LOL I cant wait.. my cousins are HILLARIOUS!

Awww babes *huggles* it's been my pleasure to help you with this in every way!!

I'm hoping to be out there by 8 September...if I am, I'll be hunting you down!! You, me, my hubby and Patch will all have to get together for drinkies!!

As I told you yesterday I admire how quickly you're getting back on the 'horse' and getting out there and trying to get your visa. It took me four months to work up the courage to apply for the visitors visa and to get over that initial shock of being denied. But my husband was the only one who was there for me at the time through everything and when all was said and done...it was that which brought us really close together. It was the worst time in my life and yet he stood by me no problem at all.

I imagine Patch will do the same for you! He sounds like he wants you back there as badly as you want to be there. If you do decide you guys want to get married, once you come home, I'm sure you can apply for the fiancee' visa if you guys are ready to take that step. But I can't wait to hear what happens with you getting your visa hun!!

It took me awhile to tell my friends as well when I got home, I was embarassed especially as they had thrown me a party before I left thinking it would be awhile till we would all see eachother...boy was my face red. 

*hugs* I'll be here for you no matter what hun!!

x x x - Missy 

P.S. Oh and I stated that he was my boyfriend (at the time) just because I knew that they wouldn't believe me that I was staying with a bloke 100% of the time and that it was completely platonic. Be as honest as possible lovey!

I am going to get my visa processed tomorrow. the lady told me that if i go to the office they could interview me and  if everything is okay they will stapm me and i can get it at 2pm.  i did not have total funds avialalbe today so the lady at the bank, the manager wrote me a note in place of a statement which was nice of her.
i am sooooooooooooo beyond nervous guys.
  i see i have made a great friend in  you missy. i cant wait to meet you. we will totally have to get together a few times while i am out there and YES i am hoping th next step is a fiance visa. i cant take this anmymore. being away is too hard.
 shala
ps is it good that i made an itenearary with random dates that are  definet and left things blank? In fact lemme put it on here so u can see. in case they ask whati plan to do there an dsee.



MY LIST ( i am just bringing it in case)

FUN PLACES TO GO AND SEE

Hampton Court - Henry VIII's home
Alton Towers - Theme Park
Big Ben - Tourist site
Windsor Castle - Royal Family
White Hart Lane - Football Match
London Eye - Tourist site
Thorpe Park - Theme Park  (August 20)
Buckingham Palace - Royal Family
Madame Tussauds - Celebrity wax-works
Wembley Arena - Lionel Ritchie concert (oct. 28)
Houses of Parliament - Politics
Tower Bridge - Tourist site
Tottenham Court Road - Famous shopping street
Greenwich - Where world time is measured from (GMT)
Stonehenge - The rocks no-one knows how they got there
Cornwall / Devon - Well known for it's scenery
Isle of Wight – (Shanklin)  (Aug 23-27)
Osborne House - In I.O.W.  Queen Victoria's house
Birmingham (Redditch) - Where my friend lived as a kid.
Nottingham - Stay to visit friend (weekend stay)
Ghost Tour - English history.  Many historical mysteries
Scotland ( Edingburgh, Lock Ness ) - Edingburgh castle, countryside
North Wales - Mountain and countryside scenery
Hyde Park - Where flowers were laid for Princess Diana
River Thames & River Tour Boat
Kingston / Richmond-Upon-Thames - Old royal towns
Piccadilly Circus - Tourist location
South Coast ( Bournemouth, Hastings, Portsmouth )
Chessington World of Adventures - Theme Park  (sept. 12)
Wembley Stadium - World's most famous stadium
Leicester Square - Nightlife
Lake District - NW England countryside scenery
London Tour Bus - See all the sites
Downing Street ( No.10 ) - Prime Minister lives
Soho - Nightlife
Camden - Head of MTV, very urban town
Peckham - See where comedy 'Only Fools and Horses' was set
Warwick Castle -  Famous castle in West Midlands
House of Commons - Politics
Wembley Arena - Bryan Adams concert (oct. 30)
Oxford Street - Famous shopping street
Blackpool - Tower and beach, popular holiday-maker location
Kew Gardens - Famous well kept gardens in west London
Dreyton Manor Park - Theme Park
Science Museum -  In London
Tower of London - Tourist site
London Dungeons - Famous old prison for old Kings and Queens
Black Country - A place in England
London Zoo – I love animals
St Paul's Cathedral – I  love the architecture
Liverpool - Home of the famous Beatles (yehaw) ( Sept. 24-25th weekend stay)
Kengsington Palace
Canterbury Cathedral
Westminster Abbey
Cadbury World – I  love chocolate
The West End – perhaps catch a play or something.


  i hope the person i meet with is nice and  not too nosey. AHHHHHHHHH NERVS
 Shala


PS YES Patch has been my backbone through all of this. i just dont wnat to get my hopes up and have them crusthed again AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH   

Shala, if they've asked you to outline your plans, I think they're wanting to see that you have definite plans while you're there...tickets to a play, plans to tour a specific cathedral, etc.  A big list of every tourist attraction isn't what they'll want to see because that could be whipped up by anyone in a matter of minutes.  Get it down to brass tacks...what are you wanting to do while you're here?

A big list of every tourist attraction isn't what they'll want to see because that could be whipped up by anyone in a matter of minutes.  Get it down to brass tacks...what are you wanting to do while you're here?

Agreed.  And perhaps more critically, it's high season and the IO is likely to see about £2,500 in tickets, transport, lodging, and what-not in that list and wonder where that sort of money is coming from...

I agree with Lola, you need to show more concrete plans AND you need to be honest about your relationship with Patrick. You need to tell them you are coming to visit him but also do the tourist thing at the same time. If you can show you have booked a couple of trips away/day trips together at least, you will be on safer ground I think. The more vague you are, the less credible you will seem. This is meant to be constructive rather than negative, hope it comes across that way.

Good luck!

It would wear me out to see all of those attractions in a year let alone a few months.  Maybe write down a few attractions that you feel are a "must see" and do some computer printouts with information about them.

Another thing you could do is join the National Trust so you could have free admission to some very interesting places.  If you did join, you wouldn't receive the member's card and book in time before you leave but you could have a printout from their site about how to join.  Just costs £25.

My hubby says you might want to rethink Peckham.  It's been a while, but he bets you have less chance of running into Delboy and more of running into Jack the Ripper.

And I agree that your list should be pared down to things you might actually do.  When are you and your boyfriend going to have time to go to Edinburgh and Loch Ness and North Wales?  It would take someone over a year to see all those different things, I think, unless they just rushed through everything! 

Also, you don't need to mention inyour list what the attraction is.  The Immigration people will know, for example, that GMT comes from Greenwich, that Kew Gardens are famous, and that how Stonehenge was built is a mystery.  You need to know those things without consulting a list, otherwise it will seem, as Lola said, that you just went through a tour guide and copied stuff down.  WHY do you want to see Kew gardens?  Do you have a particular interest in gardens?  Do you want to go to Hampton Court because you have a particular interest in history? (BTW...London Dungeons is a tourist attraction museum.  It was never actually used as a prison for Kings and Queens.  You might be confusing it with the Tower of London, which was at several points in history.)

Pare the list down and think about why you want to see those particular sites.  I see you have dates for some of your things, and that's great.

Good luck!

haha hriht
i listed  those things anyhouw and wrot e a few more things down.
 THe lady i talked to at the desk today liked my list and laughed at the part about me liking chocolate i told her that  it was just a few things i may want t see and its just on  a white pice of paper i printed out and tried to make look personalable. OBVIOUSLY not all those things are going to be done, and nobody can ever do ALL of anything on a trip.
 She didnt ask was he my boyfriend this time, but i am sure that on the phone interview they might.

i am so nervous..
she said to make sure i get my papers from being detained together ( they didnt give me much of anything really ) but she was nice..
i am glad she was smiling and friendly
it made my worrying seeem silly.
  I was asked were they my funds, why i  am not working now ( obviously cos i had planed to take this trip lol) and ect.. i just askd  to stay for 2 months and 3 wweeks not  six months as that would sound silly to ask for that again.. I told her that i asked for the six momths but planned on changing my ticket if i got to the point i figured i had done it all.

It was nervous for me, but she made me feel comfy.
they have to contact the airport ( OH GOD   ) do a report , call me back next week ( cos it friday) and then HOPEFULLY i will get stamped.
I am so scared everybody.  but i got a note from my manager at the bank saying those were my funds ect.
 HELPPPPPP
 u guys rock thanks for the advice on that.
 i know what u mean about the list, but i wanted to show that i was planing on doing SOMEHING FUN.
 Shala