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Taking my Brit born child to the US
« on: January 16, 2008, 06:26:38 PM »
Has anyone ever taken the chance and taken their child(ren) to the US on their Brit passport? I was thinking about taking a short trip to the US for my birthday and would love to take my 6 year old son with me. But he doesnt have a US passport and I don't want him to. Any chance they can deny him entry to the US on his Brit passport? Are the airlines enforcing it now?


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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 06:38:52 PM »
Is he a dual national, or UK only?
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 06:56:30 PM »
Is he a dual national, or UK only?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he's automatically a dual national because Ricki's a US citizen.


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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 06:58:17 PM »
No, I don't think so.  He's eligible for dual nationality, but normally you need to register the birth with the American Embassy to actually take up the citizenship.  He doesn't have to be an American citizen if he or his mom don't want him to be.  As long as he's not a US citizen, he's free to come and go from the US on his British passport. 
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2008, 07:01:56 PM »
I think the rule is that anyone eligible for US citizenship must enter the US on a US passport.  I think.  ???


Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2008, 07:03:37 PM »
I as well dont want my daughter to be a dual citizen... I dont want the US to have any say in her life. .. So far all I've been told is she can not visit the US without me getting her a US passport....oh well...


Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2008, 07:06:10 PM »
I think the rule is that anyone eligible for US citizenship must enter the US on a US passport.  I think.  ???
Yes, that's the law and I find it most objectionable. The US gov't wants me to register my son as a US citizen so they can issue him a SS number (at my cost by the way) and then when he's 18 he'll have to register with the selective service. Total CROCK! What makes my British child any different from any British child wanting to travel with his/her parents on holiday to the USA? Just because MY child has an American birthright the US gov't is forcing citizenship on him?


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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2008, 07:07:26 PM »
I wonder if this has been challenged in court yet?
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2008, 07:09:34 PM »
just a thought..if your husband is coming with you ricki, could your husband and son go in queue for non-US citizens and you and your other US children go into queue for citizens? Or would it show up on your sons passport that the mother is american ??? ???


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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2008, 07:10:19 PM »
As long as he's not a US citizen, he's free to come and go from the US on his British passport. 

I was warned by the British Consulate in Washington when we applied for our kids' British passports that if we wanted them to be American citizens (or might ever want them to be US citizens in the future), we should not use their British passports to enter or leave the US.  They said that doing so could jeopardize their citizenship and make it difficult to enter or leave the US in the future.  They didn't say that we "couldn't" travel on the British passports, only that it wasn't advised.
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2008, 07:10:35 PM »
If this is true, it's news to me.  Doesn't seem fair.  
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2008, 07:17:18 PM »
My daughter is a dual citizen and I'm going to let her decide when she is older if she wants to renounce one or the other.  It keeps the option open for your child, even if you don't want them to be a US citizen.  That being said, you should have the right to travel between the two.  But if you even have a reason that you need to move back, I wouldn't want the child's citizenship to be an issue.  Do you mind if I ask why you don't want him to become a dual national other than the selective service thing?


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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2008, 07:30:07 PM »
I'm doing a bit of reading and it seems that he could renounce. The problem is that at 6, you would have to prove that he really understands the ramifications, which I think would be hard. On the other hand, renunciations done before the age of 18 are the only ones that seem to be reversible within a certain time frame.

The following quotes are from this site: http://www.usvisalawyers.co.uk/article3.htm

Thus, US citizens cannot renounce citizenship while in the US (except in time of war), nor can parents renounce citizenship on behalf of their minor children. A US citizen under the age of 18 must convince a diplomatic or consular officer that he or she understands fully the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his or her US citizenship. If a US citizen child is under the age of 14, US common law requires that the child’s understanding be established by substantial evidence.

Renunciation of US citizenship is irrevocable and cannot be set aside without administrative or judicial appeal, except in the case of a former US citizen who officially renounced his or her citizenship prior to attaining the age of 18. Such a renunciant can have citizenship reinstated if he or she makes known that desire to the Department of State within six months of attaining the age of 18.
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Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2008, 07:45:12 PM »
I'm doing a bit of reading and it seems that he could renounce. The problem is that at 6, you would have to prove that he really understands the ramifications, which I think would be hard. On the other hand, renunciations done before the age of 18 are the only ones that seem to be reversible within a certain time frame.

The following quotes are from this site: http://www.usvisalawyers.co.uk/article3.htm

Thus, US citizens cannot renounce citizenship while in the US (except in time of war), nor can parents renounce citizenship on behalf of their minor children. A US citizen under the age of 18 must convince a diplomatic or consular officer that he or she understands fully the nature and consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to renounce his or her US citizenship. If a US citizen child is under the age of 14, US common law requires that the child’s understanding be established by substantial evidence.

Renunciation of US citizenship is irrevocable and cannot be set aside without administrative or judicial appeal, except in the case of a former US citizen who officially renounced his or her citizenship prior to attaining the age of 18. Such a renunciant can have citizenship reinstated if he or she makes known that desire to the Department of State within six months of attaining the age of 18.


but if she never registed her sons birth with the US, then hes not considered a US citizen or a dual citizenship.


Re: Taking my Brit born child to the US
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2008, 07:46:27 PM »
just a thought..if your husband is coming with you ricki, could your husband and son go in queue for non-US citizens and you and your other US children go into queue for citizens? Or would it show up on your sons passport that the mother is american ??? ???
I would be going alone actually. I already thought of that  :-\\\\

Do you mind if I ask why you don't want him to become a dual national other than the selective service thing?
If the US gov't wants us to register the births of our Brit born babies then they should at least pick up the tab? It's quite costly to have a birth registered.
Also why should my son who never resided in the US have to face a less than like yet possible draft and fight for a country he never set foot in?
And since he would have a SS number doesn't that mean he may have to pay taxes?
It's all disgraceful.  >:(

Anyway sorry. I was just wondering if any parents out there risked taking their child to the US on their Brit passport.


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