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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #270 on: April 04, 2009, 07:35:53 PM »
I'm one, I'm afraid. I find the word "common" to be really useful. It has nothing to do with the class system at all. It's just a word used to describe people who chew gum loudly or who wear tops that show their midriff.  ;D

Oh, I'd probably say it more if I wasn't married to Mr-PC-Run-Amok who would frown at me.

Besides, the new word for common is chavvy and that is used by a LOT of people.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #271 on: April 04, 2009, 07:37:32 PM »
Oh, I'd probably say it more if I wasn't married to Mr-PC-Run-Amok who would frown at me.

Besides, the new word for common is chavvy and that is used by a LOT of people.

Yes, I was actually thinking about that after I posted. When I use the word 'common' it is sort of synonymous with 'chavvy' - which has nothing to do with class whatsoever. I just prefer 'common.'

There is no PC-ness in our family.  ;D
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #272 on: April 04, 2009, 07:39:30 PM »
Yes, I was actually thinking about that after I posted. When I use the word 'common' it is sort of synonymous with 'chavvy' - which has nothing to do with class whatsoever. I just prefer 'common.'

There is no PC-ness in our family.  ;D

Actually, I prefer 'trashy'.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #273 on: April 04, 2009, 07:55:38 PM »
Actually, I prefer 'trashy'.

That works too!

There are so many words that people use to describe exactly the same thing - some people may find some of those words offensive, but I think nearly everyone has something they say when they mean trashy, chavvy, common, etc.
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #274 on: April 04, 2009, 10:06:28 PM »
I expect you're too young to remember "Meet The Wife" starring Thora Hird and Freddie Frinton?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_Wife

Too young to have seen it at the time, and although I'm a great fan of the TV of the era I don't think I've ever come across that one before. 

I see it was written by Ronald Chesney & Ronald Wolfe though, which reminds me of another fictional character who fell into the same category of being rather snobbish and pretentious: Arthur from On The Buses.

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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #275 on: April 06, 2009, 11:12:59 AM »
Yeah, it's a bit circular to say that a commoner isn't common because it's become an insult to call someone common.

The very reason it is an insult is the distinction between the classes.  Other words come from that same class division including vulgar and villain, but it's a little more understandable that we've lost touch with the roots of the latter two words than the former whose root is glaringly obvious.
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #276 on: April 06, 2009, 11:35:09 AM »
Yeah, it's a bit circular to say that a commoner isn't common because it's become an insult to call someone common.



My head's going around in circles now!

In law, the word "commoner" simply means "someone who is neither the Sovereign nor a peer." That includes any member of the Royal Family who is not a peer, such as Prince William and Princess Anne. It also includes any member of a peer's family, including someone who holds only a courtesy title, such as the Earl of Arundel and Surrey (eldest son of the Duke of Norfolk) or Lady Victoria Hervey (a daughter of the 6th Marquess of Bristol). That is to say, the vast majority of UK citizens. It has never meant anything else, with a few exceptions for example:

In some British universities (notably Oxford and Cambridge), a commoner is an undergraduate student who does not hold either a scholarship or an exhibition.

Some people have rights such as fishing, grazing cattle etc on areas of land such as ancient estates, forests, commons and so on, and these people are called commoners. A commoner of such-and-such a piece of land would have the right to graze his sheep on that land even though he is not the owner.

None of the above uses of the word "commoner" have ever carried any insulting implication of vulgarity or lack of breeding or culture or manners.

HOWEVER,

For several hundred years, the word "common" has been used as an insult or slight by people who wish to convey that the person being referred to is less socially polished than the speaker. It comes from the ordinary English adjective "common" which means ordinary, widespread, ubiquitous, run-of-the-mill etc.

Any confusion between the two words is a mistake.



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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #277 on: April 06, 2009, 02:08:23 PM »
Two things...

My roommate says "boughten" and it drives me insane. "I thought I'd boughten butter at the store, but it turns out I got margarine."

She also narrates herself. She'll do or say something, then immediately say, "Haha! I was all, '*thing she just did or said*" e.g. "Shazam! Did you hear that? I was all, 'Shazam!'" I KNOW! I WAS THERE!


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #278 on: April 06, 2009, 02:30:07 PM »
I would very much like to go the rest of my life without people referring to things as "awesome".  It doesn't have anything to do with the misuse of the meaning of the word, either.  I'm simply tired of hearing it all. the. freakin'. time.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #279 on: April 06, 2009, 02:34:28 PM »
She also narrates herself. She'll do or say something, then immediately say, "Haha! I was all, '*thing she just did or said*" e.g. "Shazam! Did you hear that? I was all, 'Shazam!'" I KNOW! I WAS THERE!

That would drive me mad! She sounds like a character from an SNL skit.
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #280 on: April 06, 2009, 02:47:09 PM »
I would very much like to go the rest of my life without people referring to things as "awesome".  It doesn't have anything to do with the misuse of the meaning of the word, either.  I'm simply tired of hearing it all. the. freakin'. time.
And why is it a word people seem to use ad nauseum to their children?  Along with "good job!"
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #281 on: April 06, 2009, 03:50:54 PM »

-prolly

-'tat', 'wat' when they mean 'that', 'what'

-'cud', 'shud', 'wud' when they mean 'could', 'should', 'would'

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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #282 on: April 06, 2009, 04:37:22 PM »
And why is it a word people seem to use ad nauseum to their children?  Along with "good job!"

I quite like it when people correctly write ad nauseam with an a  ;)


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #283 on: April 06, 2009, 04:40:38 PM »
'I hate to rain on your parade...'

So don't.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #284 on: April 06, 2009, 04:51:26 PM »
unsolicited advice about raisng, feeding, bathing, disciplining ..anything  !! about my kid...  uuugghh!!  I WILL ask if I want your advice.. I will..  ::)
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