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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #255 on: April 04, 2009, 01:02:47 PM »
Ooh, I don't agree.  It's perfectly fine to reply 'Fine, how are you?' or just 'I'm fine, thanks' when someone says 'How are you?'  which actually are proper answers to the question. 

Where I come from the appropriate response is 'fineanchue'  That's how we recognize flatlanders.  


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #256 on: April 04, 2009, 01:03:59 PM »
Where I come from the appropriate response is 'fineanchue'  That's how we recognize flatlanders. 

Hee!  I'm a real flatlander!


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #257 on: April 04, 2009, 01:05:27 PM »
Hee!  I'm a real flatlander!

You are indeed.  I still like you though.


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #258 on: April 04, 2009, 01:08:11 PM »
Common is meant to cover everyone who isn't royalty or nobility. 

no it isn't.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #259 on: April 04, 2009, 01:12:50 PM »
You are indeed.  I still like you though.

Yay!  :-*


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #260 on: April 04, 2009, 01:15:52 PM »
no it isn't.

Care to show the proper definition then?


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #261 on: April 04, 2009, 01:18:47 PM »
Common is meant to cover everyone who isn't royalty or nobility.  I don't use either term in a derogatory way.

That's "commoner". It is a technical term, it just means "not noble or royal" and carries no implication of uncouthness or ill-breeding. I don't think you got the point I made about my mother. "Common" is a word used by petit-bourgeois and upper working class people about those they see as "below"  them. It is rapidly dying out.

Incidentally, a good way to wind up Americans is to pull their chains about class, e.g. "I couldn't go out with Mary; she's too common." Never fails.
 
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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #262 on: April 04, 2009, 01:23:05 PM »
Care to show the proper definition then?


http://www.chambersharrap.co.uk/chambers/features/chref/chref.py/main?query=common&title=21st

"Not royalty" was probably the primary meaning 200 years ago but common* usage has changed, as these things are wont to do.

Nowadays, in this context, it means pretty much exactly the same as the American "low class."  Or number 6 in the Chambers definitions:

6 derog lacking taste or refinement; vulgar.

*slight pun intended.


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #263 on: April 04, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »
That's "commoner". It is a technical term, and carries no implication of uncouthness or ill-breeding. I don't think you got the point I made about my mother. "Common" is a word used by petit-bourgeois and upper working class people about those they see as "below"  them. It is rapidly dying out.


Thanks Contrex.
I was just about to point out that 'common' and 'commoner' are not the same thing.


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #264 on: April 04, 2009, 01:39:29 PM »
It is rapidly dying out.

 

I wouldn't be too sure of that.  I work with working class people and they use it quite a bit.  I'd actually never heard it used in real life till I started that job. 


Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #265 on: April 04, 2009, 01:44:20 PM »
I wouldn't be too sure of that.  I work with working class people and they use it quite a bit.  I'd actually never heard it used in real life till I started that job. 

I guess I no longer mix with the type of people that would use the word, then.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #266 on: April 04, 2009, 02:19:44 PM »
"Common" is a word used by petit-bourgeois and upper working class people about those they see as "below"  them.

Rather like Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced "Bouquet" you know!).

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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #267 on: April 04, 2009, 02:28:54 PM »
Rather like Hyacinth Bucket (pronounced "Bouquet" you know!).

I expect you're too young to remember "Meet The Wife" starring Thora Hird and Freddie Frinton?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meet_the_Wife





Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #268 on: April 04, 2009, 06:28:28 PM »
I guess I no longer mix with the type of people that would use the word, then.


They're still out there.


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Re: Things you really wish people wouldn't say
« Reply #269 on: April 04, 2009, 07:30:13 PM »
They're still out there.

I'm one, I'm afraid. I find the word "common" to be really useful. It has nothing to do with the class system at all. It's just a word used to describe people who chew gum loudly or who wear tops that show their midriff.  ;D
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