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Hostels for homeless people?
« on: December 17, 2010, 01:05:36 PM »
Hey everyone,

We've come to a point where we're going to be homeless and I was just wondering if there are really cheap hostels or something that we can stay in for a few months. Financially things are just getting worse. Can people get housing benefit for hostels? Any help would be appreciated.

Also, (I know this is in the wrong section but...) what happens when you default on previous bills? Like we have a gas bill that we're paying off from a previous flat and we just can't pay it anymore. It's in my British husbands name.

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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2010, 01:12:57 PM »
If you're still in Leeds then you may want to check out this webpage from the Council as it has loads of info & resources: http://www.avhleeds.org.uk/page.aspx?pageidentifier=b6a966ae-0130-405b-9150-bf4d046cdaa1 ...that and you can try contacting Shelter as they may be able to offer you advice & asisstance.

Good Luck to you & your hubby Gibby.


Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2010, 01:30:10 PM »
I'm so sorry to hear your troubles GibbyGab.  If you still have access to the internet, I googled help for homeless in Leeds, and that turned up many promising results including a list of shelters.  Also, talking to CAB might help.  Or Mrs. R. works for an agency in Leeds that helps people manage debt.  She might be able to suggest a few things.  You can always send her a pm. 

Good luck to you and all the very best for your future.  I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts and I hope a solution to your situation turns up quickly!!!!   [smiley=hug.gif]


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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2010, 02:06:03 PM »
Really sorry to hear of your troubles. Do not delay in seeking advice!!!!

First, contact Leeds City Council:
http://www.leeds.gov.uk/Page.aspx?pageIdentifier=221D8CE643F96D2180256E1400386E73

Of course, your husband will have to apply as the Brit and as far as I understand, he cannot ask for extra because of your visa status, as far as I understand. You may want to get clarification on this. Maybe the Immigration and Advisory Service can help with this bit?
http://www.iasuk.org/home.aspx

In addition, I'd try and make contact with the following services for homelessness advice, if needed:
http://www.barnardos.org.uk/futures/futures_what_we_do.htm
http://www.stgeorgescrypt.org.uk

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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2010, 02:10:41 PM »
I don't have anything to add to the good information and advice given already, just hoping you have some good luck soon.


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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2010, 02:57:24 PM »
I don't have anything to add to the good information and advice given already, just hoping you have some good luck soon.

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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2010, 03:34:53 PM »
Also, (I know this is in the wrong section but...) what happens when you default on previous bills? Like we have a gas bill that we're paying off from a previous flat and we just can't pay it anymore. It's in my British husbands name.

The general collection process (i.e., 'what happens') for an unpaid debt like that can be outlined as follows:

1) Receiving collection phone calls and letters (threatening, demanding payment, etc) from the original creditor.
2) Debt may be referred to original creditor's internal collections department & more of the above.
3) Debt defaults and you will then receive a written default notice advising that it has defaulted.
4) The original creditor then can refer (or in some instances, actually sells) the debt on to an outside collection agency, and/or pursues a county court judgement through the county court system.
5) If it goes to an external collection agency, more letters demanding payment (and phone calls) will continue, threatening legal action, etc.
6) If the debt is sent for a county court judgement, the debtor will receive blue and white paperwork with a court seal on it advising that the creditor has applied for judgement.  There are forms attached for the debtor to respond and make an offer of payment.  You have approximately 16 calendar days to respond with these.  Primarily & in most cases, this is all done through the post.
7) Judgement is entered and an instalment payment set, or possibly judgement forthwith (full payment due), ordered by the court.  If the debtor has not responded with an offer of payment, judgement will still be rendered by the court (with or without the debtor's response)...so it is to the debtor's benefit to respond.  The court is not there to only be in favour of the creditor, but will take into consideration debtor's circumstances when setting an instalment amount (sometimes, instalments could be as little as £1 monthly, even 50p).  If the debtor does not respond, then the court has no way of knowing the debtor's circumstances.  If it's a legitimate debt, the court probably won't overturn that it's owed, but rather would be considerate of circumstances in setting an affordable payment.  A county court judgement stays on the register and on the credit report for six years.
8 ) If payment of a county court judgement is then defaulted by the debtor, the creditor then can apply to the court for further action to be taken to collect the debt (known as enforcement) - could be having bailiffs sent, going for an attachment of earnings, or having a charging order put on a (real estate) property owned.  (note the court system, terms, etc are different for Scotland!  this is for England & Wales)

(Note these steps aren't hard & fast rules for the creditor & they may skip some steps.  They may not have an internal collections dept, or they may want to go straight to a county court judgement - although it's more common for debt collectors to be used first.  The only real rule there is that a default notice must be sent, before the creditor passes the debt on to external collections & before they apply for a county court judgement.  Oh yeah, once it gets to county court stage, then more specific rules apply to that whole process, of course.)

However, if you are going to be homeless, really the unpaid gas bill is the least of your worries at this point.  You need to start structuring a hierarchy of your survival needs at this point, and unpaid debts aren't one of them presently, whilst shelter and food are.  A county court judgement is not the calamitous end of the world that a lot of people make them out to be - yes, it will affect a credit record, ability to get future credit, and in some instances, could be bad news for certain future job prospects (law, finance, accounting & a few others).  On the other hand, having shelter and food to eat are higher up the importance to life scale than those things are.

First, I would highly recommend your following up on the links for housing that have been provided to you.

Then when your living situation is stabilised, and you are ready/able to tackle any residual problems with unpaid debt, then would suggest contacting one of the following:

Citizens Advice

CCCS

Payplan

Make sure to stick with one of the above, or another place that charges no fees for the advice.  Beware, there are fee chargers out there, and you don't want those.  Even if you feel absolutely confident & self-assured that you know how to deal with the debts yourself, please take some advice.  (CCCS and Paypal appointments are done, primarily, over the telephone.)  You may not be aware how the system works here, or about the possible solutions available to you, according to your circumstances.  Also, this advice can be very important in helping you with how to respond to court action, as well as letting the court know you've taken professional advice.

And again, get the housing situation (roof over your head) sorted first, then worry about the unpaid gas bill.

I'm sorry this is happening to you.  Wishing you the best.
« Last Edit: December 17, 2010, 03:42:33 PM by Mrs Robinson »
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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2010, 03:46:39 PM »
Oh no! Does your DH not have any family you can stay with until things are sorted out?
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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2010, 03:52:48 PM »
Just to add Gibby, I know your visa situation is uncertian as you had to leave school and have not applied for a FLR(M) so you're in danger of having your school withdraw their sponsorship & UKBA will cancel your Tier 4, the US Embassy has a rescue program that if you are unable to afford return fare to the US and do not have anyone who can help you financially then they an help you get back to the US, in return you forfeit your passport until you repay the loan.

Here's more information regarding the program: http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=58992.msg837034#msg837034 .

Just letting you know that the US Embassy can help you if you need to return to the US and cannot afford to. Contact information for Special Consular Services US Embassy in London: http://london.usembassy.gov/cons_new/acs/scs/contact_us.html
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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2010, 03:59:16 PM »
I don't have anything to add regarding information, but I want to say that I'm very sorry to hear that you and DH are going through this, and I send you my best wishes that you can get everything sorted out ASAP.

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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2010, 05:24:59 PM »
Aw you guys just make me cry with your support! Thanks for the links, advice, info, and well wishes :).

Dr. Super, DH's parents live in a council house where they said they can only house one more person and gave me a speech on how they're afraid of getting in trouble with the council.

Weby, I posted not too long ago in a thread updating my situation and basically said that I'm still attending my course and submitting my work and the finances department was able to work out my finances for this semester (via a loan).

Carolyn, you're right. The last thing on my mind is the stupid gas bill. I was just worrying that my future immigration applications can be effected. It sucks that at a time like this, the first thing on my mind is a stupid visa application and not food or shelter.

Thanks everyone once again, I will check out the links and get some help.

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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2010, 05:31:04 PM »
Weby, I posted not too long ago in a thread updating my situation and basically said that I'm still attending my course and submitting my work and the finances department was able to work out my finances for this semester (via a loan).
Ah sorry, I had gone back through your posts, especially the ones related to your school & visa situation, to make sure but I didn't see one where you worked those things out (must be on a board I have set to 'ignore')...I am relieved to hear that you were to get something sorted.

But you now have the Embassy info just in case...best wishes to you.


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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2010, 05:39:41 PM »
The last thing on my mind is the stupid gas bill. I was just worrying that my future immigration applications can be effected. It sucks that at a time like this, the first thing on my mind is a stupid visa application and not food or shelter. 

The bill is in your husband's name though, not yours.

I know your course is in Bradford.  There are a number of Bradford churches that are providing shelter to homeless people in that area, through the end of February.  Here is the website for that initiative:

http://www.innchurches.co.uk/home

It appears they also offer further support/advice in locating more permanent housing.
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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »
GibbyGab, all my best wishes to you for your situation to improve! I don't have any advice, but I really hope you run into some good luck soon!  [smiley=hug.gif]
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Re: Hostels for homeless people?
« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2010, 07:56:38 PM »
GibbyGab, also just wishing you luck with your situation.  I hope everything sorts itself out quickly for you.  ((Hugs))
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