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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #45 on: June 28, 2011, 08:09:26 AM »
I got lemonade at Asda the other day. Not the tropicana one which is mostly apple juice, but proper kinda sour lemonade. the brand was? Don simone I believe.


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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #46 on: June 28, 2011, 08:54:51 AM »
Abby, your point is well taken. However, I would still assert the point that if I was in Portugal, I wouldn't be looking for A and W rootbeer because that is not something I would expect they have there. I would be in Portugal to experience Portugal, and that means it's own delicious foods and traditions. I think we have beaten this dead horse enough. I made my point, and you all made yourselves perfectly clear, so the rest is just excessive, and I am sure you would rather continue your conversations sans controversy.

And if you were living in Portugal indefinitely, you're saying you'd never, ever crave a rootbeer again?

I love living here. I loved living in Switzerland. I never intend on living in the US again, and I've not even been back for a visit in four years. Yet every so often, my palate craves something from my childhood or 10 years ago.

Until you've left the US on a long term basis, you really can't understand. Everyone misses something from home, and usually (in my experience, particularly as a member of a very diverse community of English speaking expats living in Switzerland, not just Brits and Americans) it is junk food of some stripe.


Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #47 on: June 28, 2011, 08:55:38 AM »
Being a progressive is bad, and wanting better nutrition was stupid, and liking gourmet food snobish.

Yeah, because if there's one thing this forum is known for, it's being way too hard on progressives. ;)


ETA:  I made a thread so this one could go back to its original purpose:
http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=70173

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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #48 on: June 28, 2011, 08:58:44 AM »
Discuss.

(Mainly to put the Where do I find American food thread back on the rails).
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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #49 on: June 28, 2011, 09:12:30 AM »
I see no reason to do that.  There are lots of people living here from other countries and they don't give up their food.  Can you imagine no kebabs here?  Or pizza?  Or Subway Sandwiches?  Those certainly didn't originate in England.  I could go on and on with my list, but I'm sure you see my point. 
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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2011, 09:37:07 AM »
Totally silly. Should I never eat thai food outside of Thailand? And I've never been to Thailand, so that would suck. Trying to replicate one's American shopping list while in the UK would be tough and potentially bankrupting, but the occasional familiar comfort food (whatever that might be) fix is certainly not sneer-worthy.

Although, IMO, we could do with fewer Italian chains. But what are you gonna do? It's clearly all of the homesick Italians keeping them in business. Adapt already!  :P


Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2011, 09:49:24 AM »
My thoughts, mostly for LW:

First, a bit of a disclaimer here.  I rarely buy American products.  On my trips back from the States, the only thing I brought back food-wise was some coffee which a friend gave me to replace a gift we used while staying at her house.  I've had friends offer to send care packages or bring me back stuff from their trips, and I literally have a hard time thinking of anything that I miss.  I say this not because of any sense of superiority, but so the assumption (and LW seems to have a lot of them) that people are just defending bad habits or cultural ignorance isn't valid with me (not that it is valid with others).  I do occassionally pick up some A&W if I am in Sloane Square, usually when my husband, a native born Londoner, picks up some American sweets he misses from his time living in the States.  Maybe I should get on him about getting with the local food culture.

Most of the people on this board are immigrants.  Immigrants usually either bring their native foods in the form of recipes they modify with locally available/affordable ingredients (Italian American is an example of this, but it's not the only one), whole foods which begin to be imported that weren't commonly used or known in the local cuisine, manufactured ingredients, manufactured finished produces, or (usually) a combination of all these things.  To set Americans as something different has a twang of something very unprogressive.

Where I live in London, there are countless Polish and Eastern European shops.  I'd post a lint to a directory, but it wouldn't even begin to scratch the surface.  On the street near us there are two right on the corner, and if you walk the length (it's a sort of mini-high street), there are no fewer than 5.  Going to walking distance, I can walk to several, including a Polish restaurant.  Words have actual meanings, and continental foods and imports are not local foods.  For some countries, it would be really stretching it to call them regional.  Why is it something different for Americans? 

Chinatown, curry houses, fish and chips, any of the countless places you can get goods from or catering to people from countries worldwide (from Scandinavia to South Africa, from Brazilian to Japan), this is all because of immigration. 

No American here is eating from American import shops exclusively.  Trust me, they'd go bankrupt first.  No one is going to be able to exist in this country without having their diets changed by British food or even totally altered.  Also, no one is going to get obese from eating ribs and collard greens moderately any more than anyone is going to get obese from eating dim sum, curry, fish and chips, or French bread moderately. I'd actually have an easier time eating ribs and greens moderately than the other things I listed as the other things are like crack to me.

I don't think you're snobby.  I think you're being a bit elitist about very middle class, middle-brow things and making a lot of huge assumptions about what people from this board know, what they cook from day to day, and what it's like to actually live somewhere long term, indefinitely, or permanently.  Stop assuming things about your fellow posters, please.  If you spent time with people of all walks of life in the UK and other places you've visited and taken the time to actually understand what people eat on a day to day basis, I'd doubt you'd wax so poetic about it.  

I really hope you stick around the board, and if you do end up immigrating, I'd love to see you enrich our community with your experience.  Laughing your ass off about people's comfort food isn't enriching anyone, no matter how much you justify it with claims that you're just trying to open people's eyes.  I don't know anyone who doesn't know what Cool Whip or processed cheese is.  Maybe you should enter a conversation with the assumption that people are at least as informed as you are, and go from there.
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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2011, 09:51:03 AM »
What about "American Food" made from locally sourced ingredients?   ;D

I think Mr. K would be absolutely despondent if I stopped making meatloaf or pumpkin pie!
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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2011, 10:05:35 AM »
I think I might have missed something on this thread, but I love bringing back a suitcase full of food, there are certain foods that make me really happy, and I couldn't live without. And when I eat them, they take me back to my Grandmothers kitchen and that makes me happy. And my English husband has made sure that in almost 6 years, we have NEVER run out of Dunkin Donuts French Vanilla Coffee, exclusively drank out of a DD mug. And me, well, I am almost out of Good Seasons salad dressing mix, but thank goodness I am back at my parents house in NY for the summer. Phew.

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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2011, 10:05:50 AM »
(just to note, my home made hamburgers are to die for and quite well known in Sheffield ;)),

Do you mind sharing your recipe? I'm really struggling to find a nice, good, juicy burger here...

Also there are things in the US I would never, ever touch with a teen foot pole - namely Scrapple. GAG (Sorry Philly folks)
LOL! I don't think it's THAT bad, but then again, I can count the number of times I've had it on one hand--and I'm from the Philly region!  :D
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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2011, 10:10:42 AM »
What about "American Food" made from locally sourced ingredients?   ;D

I think Mr. K would be absolutely despondent if I stopped making meatloaf or pumpkin pie!

I know.  When I do cook "American", it's never from something imported from the States, it's usually British ingredients, and sometimes local.  I don't cook "American" often, but it's usually well received by Mr A and even the inlaws.  I couldn't imagine not eating British food, but I've lived here over 3.5 years.  I can't imagine going that long not having anything that reminded me of home.

Racheeeee, look to the "where to find American food" thread for reference.


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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2011, 10:12:04 AM »
(top half of post was in original thread, but moved here to keep on track)
Ya'll are taking me way too seriously, and some way too funny ( nice accent thar!). I guess I grew up eating things like cool whip and velveeta cheese only to realize that there are ways to make sauces without a mix, and cooking mac and cheese w/o a box was easy and more delicious.  I guess I like Jamie Oliver. I love a good burger...but not one from McDonalds.

I spent most of my life as an obese person, and having lost 110 pounds in the last 4 years has made me change the way I eat. So perhaps that is my prejudice. I like the word foodie because I just like good food...and am not an expert, so that is the best word I can find. Some people don't like it-- no biggie. I guess, if I am to make the choice to leave the place I was born because I want something different, I want to embrace all of it. If I lived in the Netherlands, I probably would never adjust to true Dutch fare, but they have enough variety of other ethnic foods that I could handle it. Sneeballen in Germany are nasty, but a lot of other things aren't. I guess I just feel more at home in some places in the UK and Europe than I do here. That has to do with the food, the people and the politics and the proximity to other cultures that make me think beyond my own human experience. After a youth spent killing myself with the foods mentioned earlier in this thread, I guess I am like an ex-smoker....they hate smoking more than those who never smoked. I don't expect anyone to agree with me here, but I also don't expect to be attacked for differing point of view.

I much, much prefer home made mac n cheese or fresh made whip cream (just to note, my home made hamburgers are to die for and quite well known in Sheffield ;)), but it just doesnt always hit the spot - especially when you dont have ready access to them. Sometimes the E numbers are the only thing that will suffice. I think its because its not right under our noses, it makes it more desirable. You always want what you cant have, type of thing.

Being the child of an ex-pat and being one myself, I totally understand this and much better than my mother ever was (she used to have my Nanny bring everything under the sun - including large boxes of Ariel over....) Things are getting better on both sides of the pond (shes given up on Ariel and now only wants a box of Quality Street & Roses at Christmas as the ones in the US are made in Canada under license) as she can get squash and crunchy bars in her local Publix. No more 'food' suitcases for either of us now...

Also there are things in the US I would never, ever touch with a teen foot pole - namely Scrapple. GAG (Sorry Philly folks)

Abby, your point is well taken. However, I would still assert the point that if I was in Portugal, I wouldn't be looking for A and W rootbeer because that is not something I would expect they have there. I would be in Portugal to experience Portugal, and that means it's own delicious foods and traditions. I think we have beaten this dead horse enough. I made my point, and you all made yourselves perfectly clear, so the rest is just excessive, and I am sure you would rather continue your conversations sans controversy.

If Im on holiday, Im going to eat locally (just so happens when Im in Spain I can get Ruffles...  [smiley=anxious.gif]) and enjoy local foods (mmmCanarian potatoes with Moja...). Except, like others have pointed out - Im not on holiday, Im living my life. Ive embraced a lot of British cuisine and food, because you HAVE to. I still dont like Currys, but adore a nice Mince pie or bread and butter pudding.

Someone on another forum I post on got upset when I got excited that Cinnabon opened in London and there was the possibility that once a year I could have one. He had the same attitude you did. "You live abroad, embrace the local delicacies!!! Its what I did when I was living in Germany for 6 months" Well, the difference between him and me, what that he KNEW when he was going home and could resist American treats. Me? I dont know when Im going home (last time back was in 2009 for a week) so not going to pass up a very rare treat - no matter how terrible it is for me.


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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2011, 10:19:43 AM »
Do you mind sharing your recipe? I'm really struggling to find a nice, good, juicy burger here...

LOL! I don't think it's THAT bad, but then again, I can count the number of times I've had it on one hand--and I'm from the Philly region!  :D

Hamburger recipe is DEAD easy.

500g of 20/80 Minced beef (fat is always the key to a good burger)
2 heavy tablespoons of Worcestershire sauce (or Hendersons if you live in Sheffield ;))
Small teaspoon of garlic powder
Salt & Pepper for taste (I use sea salt and fresh cracked black pepper)

Take meat out of packaging and put in a mixing bowl. Add all of the above and mix gently. Let rest in the fridge for about 30 mins to an hour before cooking to let marinate.

Take a handful of meat and turn into a large meatball and set on plate

Put on hot BBQ, squish down to make flat and cook to your liking (about 2-3 mins on each side). I cant remember the last time I made them on the stove, to give timings for that.


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Re: Should you totally give up American foods?
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2011, 10:24:29 AM »
I also think Nando's "salt" is like Lawry salt...anyone know for sure - it tastes the same!

I am on the hunt for A1 - I need to check out TK Maxx as I love making burgers with that and my DSD now craves A1 for any steak - I have ruined her!  It's better then HP in her mind!



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