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London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« on: October 29, 2011, 05:54:27 AM »
I have very mixed feelings about this. What do you think?
http://news.yahoo.com/london-goes-court-evict-st-pauls-protest-133212808.html
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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2011, 07:32:54 AM »
They need not to be there for the 11th and 13th, but outside those times I really don't care.


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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2011, 10:02:24 AM »
I've been doing a lot of work in the area recently, and wandered down to have a look yesterday.  As you're facing the cathedral, the protesters take up most of the space on the left side of it.  There is still plenty of room at the front for people to go in and out without being inconvenienced or being pushed together, and there is plenty of room around the left side for people to walk if they're just going past the cathedral on their way to someplace else.  Based on this I think the safety argument against the protest is a weak one.


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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2011, 10:12:04 AM »
I think...at least we now know who the church really stands for.  And it's not with those who are protesting against inequality & corporate greed - those who did appear to have been forced out.
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in...

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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 10:41:33 AM »
I am intrigued by the Canon who has resigned, and who said that Jesus (who, I recall,  drove the moneylenders out of the temple) could have been born in the protesters camp. I see the likes of the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are busy ridiculing him.


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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 12:30:17 PM »
I am intrigued by the Canon who has resigned, and who said that Jesus (who, I recall,  drove the moneylenders out of the temple) could have been born in the protesters camp. I see the likes of the Daily Mail and the Telegraph are busy ridiculing him.

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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 01:24:22 PM »
When I said I recalled that Jesus drove the moneylenders out of the temple, I may have inadvertently given the impression that I was a witness to that event; I wasn't; I heard about it much later.


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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 03:16:59 PM »
Be careful with that....there's only one letter's difference between hearsay and heresy..
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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2011, 09:39:21 PM »
More about the Canon... the Telegraph reports: "No sooner had Dr Giles Fraser resigned as Canon Chancellor of St Paul’s Cathedral than the Bishop of London, Dr Richard Chartres, issued a statement offering to meet him immediately “to discuss how we can ensure that his voice continues to be heard” and "In the long term, the only question is: will Giles Fraser tone down his style when, as seems likely, the letter arrives from Downing Street inviting him to be a bishop? "






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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2011, 11:35:53 AM »
Be careful with that....there's only one letter's difference between hearsay and heresy..

Should I explain this? Because to me this is comedy gold....a layered, multi-faceted gem. Though it is hard to get entomology just right in a humorous context. 
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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2011, 11:54:29 AM »
Entomology. Is this more of that layered, multi-faceted doo-dah, or did you mean "etymology"?


Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2011, 01:08:27 PM »
Should I explain this? Because to me this is comedy gold....a layered, multi-faceted gem. Though it is hard to get entomology just right in a humorous context. 


Maybe you'd better, although in my experience if you have to explain it, a joke has already failed. Surely there is more than "one letter's difference" between the words 'heresy and 'hearsay'? I know one has 6 and the other 7 letters, but it's not like the difference, say, between 'bat' and 'bath' or 'hat' and 'hate' or 'cant' and 'canto'. Also re. entomology - is there a bug in your dictionary?



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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2011, 01:17:31 AM »
Also re. entomology - is there a bug in your dictionary?

ROFL!

Having only been in the UK for a little more than 2 weeks, I don't feel I know/understand enough about the politics here to be surprised or not at the stance St Paul's has taken. But I do know, that if I was still in the US, I'd be participating in the local Occupy protest. As a white-collar professional that was laid off almost 20months ago, I am no longer surprised at what I see/hear/read corporations & banks doing. I'm not against a healthy profit for a company, but I have to wonder when is enough, enough? I think capitalism creates a fairly decent economy, but not unfettered capitalism. So I pretty much agree with their campaign.

I'll admit I'm a bit biased. I never thought I'd have to worry about finding work, or that I'd have to file bankruptcy and lose our house to foreclosure. However I'm not dwelling on it that much. I'm looking forward to our starting over here in the UK and leaving that all behind us.


Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2011, 08:31:10 AM »
Personally I think it is good for democracy when people do things like this. Maybe Britain is reaching a tipping point, although it does seem that the protestors in the main are middle class, articulate types. Which sociologist was it who said that revolutions don't happen when the working classes rebel, they happen when the middle class find their expectations of an increasing quality of life aren't being fulfilled any more?


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Re: London goes to court to evict St. Paul's protest
« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2011, 01:25:48 PM »
Be careful what you wish for. I wouldn't want to bet whether there are more angry liberals wanting to pull Britain to the Left or angry conservatives wanting to pull it to the Right.

My best guess? 50/50. And wouldn't THAT get ugly fast?


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