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Hello all, I hate to bother you with a question you've probably had a thousand times before. I do just wanna make sure that I am absolutely double
 triple quadruple checking my work before I make a decision that would impact the next several years of my life.

About me
1) I am a barista at a corporate coffee shop chain (Caribou coffee for those in the know) isolated entirely to the US (as far as I know) and primarily isolated in the midwest US.
2) I am currently earning my high school diploma a few years late and have no immediate plans for college.
3) I make (very approximately) 21,164 USD (18,492 Euro) yearly.
4) I have a (wonderful) girlfriend of nearly four years who is a UK citizen currently living in the Republic of Ireland.
5) I am 19, girlfriend is 17.

My questions
1) Am I eligible for a work visa of any kind? If so which ones?
2) Am I eligible for a marriage/spouse/significant other visa?
3) Rather unrelated but it'll help me to round off my knowledge, can an embassy worker give advice on visas or say what a person may or may not be eligible for visas?


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1. No. The position isn’t highly skilled and the salary doesn’t meet requirements.
2. That depends on her financial situation and where you will settle, the UK or ROI.
3. No.




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I have no idea what the requirements for visas for ROI are.


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An EU citizen has certain rights to bring a non-EU partner to live with them (and for that partner to be allowed to work, etc) in a second EU country.

https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/family-residence-rights/non-eu-wife-husband-children/index_en.htm

Sadly this route has become a political football for anti immigrant xenophobes and has been jiggled with by national agencies and EU courts.  But it still exists. Ireland's trick, I believe, is to stall the process and require a lot red tape.

The big issue is that due to Brexit, UK citizens will have their EU citizenship stripped come April 2019. We don't know anything at all about how this will affect people like your girlfriend. No one apparently thought about that part.

As a side note: we have some really anti EU people on this board so expect some unhelpful replies.

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You may want to look at US universities with a study abroad program in Ireland/UK. This way, when you finish your degree you will have some experience living in a foreign country and spending more time with your significant other. You also have the option of completing a secondary degree abroad that will qualify you for a skilled worker visa. The UK is quite anti immigrant atm and we are all holding our breath for what Brexit will mean. As mentioned, Ireland has different rules than the UK for EEA citizens and their partners.

Good luck as you consider all of your options! If you plan to become engaged, you could sponsor her in the US so make sure you research that route too.

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newcomer link: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/moving_country/moving_to_ireland/ [nonactive]

newcomer link: https://www.migrantproject.ie/returning-to-ireland/bringing-non-irish-family-members/ [nonactive]

and

newcomer link: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/migrant_workers/employment_permits/ [nonactive]

may be of use to you.
I have no idea what the requirements for visas for ROI are.
OML, I was a proper dumb dumb and forgot where I was hoping to emigrate too. I'm trying to emigrate to the UK, this is where my girlfriend is hoping to go to study in just a few short months. I am so sorry for not remembering to include that, editing now for clarity.
1. No. The position isn’t highly skilled and the salary doesn’t meet requirements.
2. That depends on her financial situation and where you will settle, the UK or ROI.
3. No.
Thank you very much for the help!
An EU citizen has certain rights to bring a non-EU partner to live with them (and for that partner to be allowed to work, etc) in a second EU country.

newcomer link: https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/family-residence-rights/non-eu-wife-husband-children/index_en.htm [nonactive]

Sadly this route has become a political football for anti immigrant xenophobes and has been jiggled with by national agencies and EU courts.  But it still exists. Ireland's trick, I believe, is to stall the process and require a lot red tape.

The big issue is that due to Brexit, UK citizens will have their EU citizenship stripped come April 2019. We don't know anything at all about how this will affect people like your girlfriend. No one apparently thought about that part.

As a side note: we have some really anti EU people on this board so expect some unhelpful replies.
So, if I'm reading this correctly, if someones moving from one EU country to another they can bring along a non-EU citizen even if said person was not staying with them prior? Assuming it is a spouse/child?


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Welcome to the forum. :)

OML, I was a proper dumb dumb and forgot where I was hoping to emigrate too. I'm trying to emigrate to the UK, this is where my girlfriend is hoping to go to study in just a few short months. I am so sorry for not remembering to include that, editing now for clarity.

You would need to be married for your British citizen girlfriend to sponsor you for a visa to join her in the UK under UK immigration rules and she would have to meet the requirements to be able to sponsor you.

Is your girlfriend a dual Irish/British citizen?

Do you have a claim to Canadian citizenship? If you do, there is the Tier 5 Youth Mobilty visa.
https://www.gov.uk/tier-5-youth-mobility/eligibility

So, if I'm reading this correctly, if someones moving from one EU country to another they can bring along a non-EU citizen even if said person was not staying with them prior? Assuming it is a spouse/child?


An EEA  citizen is not an EEA citizen (cannot use EU rules) in their own country.The EEA citizen also has to be an EU "qualified person" continuously, to be able to have non-EEA citizens with them in another EEA country. e.g. worker; student with Comprehensive Sickness Insurance for everyone; living on their own means with Comprehensive Sickness Insurance for everyone

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if I'm reading this correctly, if someones moving from one EU country to another they can bring along a non-EU citizen even if said person was not staying with them prior? Assuming it is a spouse/child?

Here is the government page:

https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh



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Here is the government page:

https://www.gov.uk/family-permit/surinder-singh





 How is the husband of a 17 year old going to use the Singh route?

« Last Edit: December 30, 2018, 07:21:00 AM by Sirius »


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Are you suggesting they get married when they are both of marriageable age?

I don't usually try and coach like that, are there any other tips you are holding back?
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Are you suggesting they get married when they are both of marriageable age?

I don't usually try and coach like that, are there any other tips you are holding back?

Surinder Singh requires that they have been living together in the EU country, that they have ‘moved the centre of their lives’ to that country, and that they have integrated into that society. They must also either be married or have been living together as unmarried partners for a significant period of time (2 years?).

So, the OP would need to find a way to move to Ireland for a couple of years first, before they could even consider Surinder Singh... though aren’t they supposed to be shutting down the Surinder Singh route anyway?


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Surinder Singh requires that they have been living together in the EU country, that they have ‘moved the centre of their lives’ to that country, and that they have integrated into that society. They must also either be married or have been living together as unmarried partners for a significant period of time (2 years?).

So, the OP would need to find a way to move to Ireland for a couple of years first, before they could even consider Surinder Singh... though aren’t they supposed to be shutting down the Surinder Singh route anyway?


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I thought it was all but closed.  Virtually impossible to use anymore, let alone after Brexit.


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They must also either be married or have been living together as unmarried partners for a significant period of time (2 years?).

So marriage OR two years?

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I thought it was all but closed.  Virtually impossible to use anymore,

Where are you getting this?
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