Schools back

Agreed, @margo!!

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It's not going to be long before there is outbreaks at schools when kids are going back to school in September.

I for one think it's not safe at all for them. If they catch the virus, which they can and spread it that will mean those that live at the same household will also need to self-isolate. Don't believe a word this Government says. They cannot be trusted.

What's infuriating is that we have conflicting information from trusted sources. For example, here are two recent articles from the Guardian:

Surge in Covid cases among children fuels fears over US school reopenings:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/14/school-reopenings-covid-19-coronavirus-us

There is now clear data on Covid-19 and children: it should be safe to reopen English schools: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/18/children-covid-19-english-schools-virus-safe-reopening

The second article is an opinion it is still a constant battle of information. While most say that the risk to children is low, there are still the inexplicable cases where kids as young as 13 days old to those aged 7 or 13 have died from the virus without any pre-existing conditions. I just feel really uneasy; of course I want my child to go to school, make friends, and give me an earned mental health break after 6 months together(!), I feel like we are weeks away from our next lockdown because this is being pushed through. 

It really is going to end in a disaster, it has been soon far. This Government just lie and lie.
Our kids are not here to be guinea pigs just to see if it actually is safe for them to go to school.

This deadly virus is not going to be like, oh damn it's a child, let's just swerve around them and look for our next victim.

No one is safe is from this virus, absolutely no-one. Come September, school attendance is nowhere near going to be full.

They have to be 100% certain it is safe for kids to go back to school.

As for making sure they are socially distanced, good luck with that, have you ever seen the schoolkids on break time, it's bedlam!

We were out walking today and went by an elementary school. The kids were out on the playground and being kids. Absolutely no distancing whatsoever. From kids that looked like they were maybe 5 years old up to maybe 12. All milling together. If one of them is infected, it's going to run through the school like a wildfire. Perhaps all the infected won't have serious cases, but they will be vectors that will carry it home (and elsewhere). I am now actively avoiding children. Hopefully they won't realize it.

There's a problem with dealing with pre-existing conditions. You have to know you've got one. Even when someone dies from Covid and they're said to have had no pre-existing conditions, it's entirely possible they did have one (like the relatively invisible mitochondrial diseases), and so were at massively greater risk, with nobody knowing it. The medics aren't going to spend a lot of time looking for one after someone dies in a pandemic, either. Have to keep the bodies moving. Just "cause of death" it as Covid. Plenty more where this one came from. Etc. 

I still think the kiddies should have a year off. A full year. And then just do-over where they were before Covid. I also know that an awful lot of people use school as daycare, and since the government needs workers to be able to go back to work (and back out buying things that contribute to jobs being needed), they're going to push the kids back to school to free up their parents. While I understand the economic implications, I really do think this is a very unwise thing to do as far as the children and their families are concerned. It's incredibly dangerous, and the "it's time" propaganda is misleading. Parents should have the choice as to sending their kids back now or not.

Nan, the kids aren’t social distancing because in Scotland, they don’t have to per what the rules say.

Time will tell how this goes. A few of my friends are teachers and they’re just back to business as usual at school, busy as anything, but trying to remember to wash their hands as much as they possibly can.

Washing their hands and singing happy birthday is going to be the least of their worries.

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Oh I know my friends are worried, they’re just trying to get on as best and as safely as they can.

Ugggh, this isn’t going to make you feel better. A teacher in a local primary school has just tested positive and they’re keeping the school open and said anyone with symptoms needs to stay home.  Errr this is an asymptotic spreader!!!

Great. Just great.

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And now another one, different school

Sorry, edited with more info- confirmed primary school pupil with it.

Ugggh, this isn’t going to make you feel better. A teacher in a local primary school has just tested positive and they’re keeping the school open and said anyone with symptoms needs to stay home.  Errr this is an asymptotic spreader!!!

This is an outbreak waiting to happen. Especially if social distancing wasn't part of the reopening guidelines. Wow. I feel badly for the parents and teachers/support staff.

It's 100% not safe for kids to go back to school. You don't have to be an expert to know that.

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I am so glad my kid is still too young to start school. Back in my home city they are online only for at least the first nine weeks, even the majority of the bassackwards suburbs have followed suit. This is in Oklahoma, for crying out loud! It's not often I say I'd feel safer putting her in an Oklahoma school, so bravo UK.

Contact tracing taking place at seven schools in NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde area
https://www.glasgowlive.co.uk/news/glasgow-news/contact-tracing-taking-place-seven-18796953

That's the headline.

I'm sorry to say this, but I think we're getting out just ahead of the wave. Two, three, maybe four weeks from now, I do suspect things are going to be popping. And the best of luck to all who have to stay here to deal with it.

On the good side, at least it's not California. Where they are having rolling blackouts because the power grid can't handle the strain of all the air conditioners in the record-breaking (54c in Death Valley the other day) heat. And which is kind of on fire again, up and down the state. And where the Covid is running rampant - and the Daughter's friends are FINALLY getting it and not going shopping.  AND where they've not got at least one, possibly more, cases of plague probably caught from a flea while the sufferer(s) was/were hiking with their dogs on a well-traveled trail. Yeah. At least here is not like there.

But still, good luck to you all. And fingers are crossed that where we are headed remains as it is, a very low-infection area with good procedures in place. We just have to get our stuff out of here before they lock down the home removals people again, and I think we're beating that curve by a few weeks.

EDIT: And now this https://news.stv.tv/west-central/entire-primary-school-class-to-self-isolate-after-covid-case?top
And guess which little plague-pit is on the list? Yep, that playground we walked by the other day. 

[New Mantra: Don't get sick until after we leave. Don't get sick until after we leave. Don't get sick until after....]