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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2012, 06:19:19 PM »
Is 'a rub' like 'a dig'?

No, in this case the "rub" means the "key to the issue" or "important point".  It's like saying "Ah, there's the thing."


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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2012, 06:21:13 PM »
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2012, 06:21:58 PM »
Is 'a rub' like 'a dig'?

Nope, it's Shakespeare.  Hamlet's famous soliloquy: " . . . To die, to sleep/ To sleep, perchance to dream, ay there's the rub/ For in that sleep of death what dreams may come/ When we have shuffled off this mortal coil/ Must give us pause..."

Anonymiss is saying that the problem with my argument is that the form I said was correct is actually not correct.  That's all. 
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2012, 06:28:15 PM »
Is 'a rub' like 'a dig'?


Hardly.  

It's from Hamlet:

To sleep — perchance to dream: ay, there’s the rub!

There's the problem, difficulty, issue etc..

Examples?

"I was sat" used when clearly "I was sitting" was the appropriate usage.



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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2012, 06:33:21 PM »
"I was sat" used when clearly "I was sitting" was the appropriate usage.

It's not clear at all.  It's a different way of thinking, as I explained above.  Unless you can give a better reason why you think it's wrong, there's no point continuing to argue. 

I would agree that it sounds wrong to an American English speaker, but there are things Americans say that sound wrong to British speakers.  There are more differences between the two than we necessarily recognise, until we sit down and start to analyse. 
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2012, 06:35:34 PM »
I'm so confused.  ???

Anyway, I like the sound of it, and I'm going to listen for it now!
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 06:39:45 PM »
historyenne, although it is not just a regional thing, do you think it might be one of those 'class based' things? Or, no?

I don't think so, since it's pretty standard in British English - I've been saying it all my life (my family is middle-class and I'm from the south-west of England) and everyone I know says it too.

People will use both 'sitting' and 'sat' here though... I guess it just depends on the person and/or the circumstances in which it's being said.


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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 06:48:43 PM »
It's not clear at all.  It's a different way of thinking, as I explained above.  Unless you can give a better reason why you think it's wrong, there's no point continuing to argue.  

 

I'm not arguing.  I accept that there are situations in which it's correct.  I've just never heard it used correctly.  

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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 08:16:13 PM »
My husband just told me I'm a crazy person, and people say it all of the time, and I've just not noticed it!  :P
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 09:50:06 PM »
From researching a bit...it seems to be used in a sort of negative sense like:

"Yesterday there was a pregnant lady standing on the bus, with a man just sat there in the seat."

"He was just sat there on the pavement with all of us stumbling over him."

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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2012, 06:13:29 PM »
From researching a bit...it seems to be used in a sort of negative sense like:

"Yesterday there was a pregnant lady standing on the bus, with a man just sat there in the seat."

"He was just sat there on the pavement with all of us stumbling over him."



Now you've got me involved.

I doubt the p. lady was standing on the bus. It is more likely she was standing inside of the bus. ;D

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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2012, 06:22:17 PM »
Now you've got me involved.

I doubt the p. lady was standing on the bus. It is more likely she was standing inside of the bus. ;D

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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2012, 06:27:41 PM »
Don't be silly, Cheers.  No one says they are inside the bus.  On the bus is correct. 
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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2012, 07:55:59 PM »
Don't be silly, Cheers.  No one says they are inside the bus.  On the bus is correct. 

How should I take your response? Do you type first and think later? Are you so much of a book worm that you have no humor.


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Re: "sat there" - grammar
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2012, 08:07:44 PM »
How should I take your response? Do you type first and think later? Are you so much of a book worm that you have no humor.

I laugh when things are funny.
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