PART4: MANDATORY DOCUMENTS/ OTHER DOCS - QUESTION

I've gotten to part 4 "DOCUMENTS" on the application. It states, "MANDATORY DOCUMENTS" and asks me to check the boxes for:

1. my passport
2. my husband's (sponsor) copy of bio page of passport

I have both of these. The confusing part is then it says afterwards "OTHER DOCUMENTS" and says "if you do not provide these, your application may be delayed or refused," then it lists 2  additionalitems:

1.  proof or relationship to partner
2. 1 proof of citizenship to xxx (my husband/sponsor) such as passport or UK citizenship certificate.

My question is, if I was already asked to provide the copy of his bio page in the first "MANDATORY DOCS" section, why does it state again in "OTHER DOCUMENTS" to provide his passport or citizenship certificate? Isn't it enough to just provide a copy of his bio page one time and that's it?

By that, I'd provide only 3 of the 4 items mentioned here:

-my passport
-copy of bio page of my husband's passport
-proof of our relationship (marriage cert., etc.)

Is this enough or am I missing something here? Are they asking for a copy of his passport's bio page AS WELL AS his actual whole passport?

Oh there’s all kinds of additional information you need! Like accommodation evidence, pay slips, bank statements, letter from employer, letter from sponsor(spouse). The experts will be around to go over the details I’m sure, but as I’ve seen stated many times, please keep all of your questions on a single thread so that previous information is easier to find and isn’t repeated.


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Yes, I was just coming to say, please can you keep all your questions about your application in just one thread, instead of making a new topic for each question (just make one topic for your whole application and ask each question in there).

That way, a) it’s easy for us to keep track of your situation, what you have already asked and what advice you have already been given and b) you don’t clutter up the forum with multiple topics, which we have to hunt down every time you ask something new.


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For example, we have already gone through with you all of the documents you need in your previous thread (https://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=97277.msg1289385#msg1289385), but this new thread kind of implies that you are not aware of needing any of those documents.

In regards to your question about the passport, you ONLY need to send a copy of the photo page of your sponsor’s passport, not the whole passport.



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Thank you for your reply!

=I will keep all my different questions in one topic from now on, I thought each different topic/question should be separate so those looking for the answer of that specific question can find it easily, but I misunderstood! Sorry about that!

Actually my question here was misunderstood. I was not asking about which documents i need as I do have a list of those, I was asking specifically about part 4 of documents within the application and what it means just in the part I specified above. Why are they mentioning what seems to be the same thing twice saying i'd need them both? I did not understand.

Thanks!

Hello there!

I wanted to ask about cover letters. What should they include? And are there any samples I can possibly look at? Thank you!

Actually my question here was misunderstood. I was not asking about which documents i need as I do have a list of those, I was asking specifically about part 4 of documents within the application and what it means just in the part I specified above. Why are they mentioning what seems to be the same thing twice saying i'd need them both? I did not understand.

Thanks!

Because the form is badly designed. It asks you for some things twice and we know from feedback that it does not ask at all for some things which are mandatory. So make sure you send everything you know that you need, not just what it asks for.

Hello there!

I wanted to ask about cover letters. What should they include? And are there any samples I can possibly look at? Thank you!

The applicant's letter is optional. You can use it to explain anything out of the ordinary, anything which you feel warrants additional explanation or even just as a contents list.

The sponsor's letter should basically cover how you meet each of the requirements. So a short paragraph on each of the accommodation, financial and relationship requirements and a quick mention of why you are choosing to live in the UK.

Keep the letters brief and factual.

Thank you Larrabee!

Today my husband sat with a solicitor for 2 hours to show him everything we've gathered so far and told him what else he will be doing, asked questions, etc. The solicitor said it's better if we submit the application on Monday, but we really want to submit it tomorrow if we are able to.

Basically, my husband's (sponsor) wage slips are dated on the 30th every month. My husband is missing the November wage slip, which can be given to him by the employer on Saturday the earliest (i.e., after tomorrow; which is the 30th of Nov).

The bank statements are dates on the 26th of every month. My husband said we would need the bank statements less than 28 days BEFORE submitting the application. Is this point here correct?

Husband/sponsor will also stop by the bank tomorrow (Nov 29th) to get as many days on the bank statement as he can from the month of November (Although he says even if he gets up to the 15th of November, this is fine because of the 28 day leeway). He will get this part of the bank statement stamped from the bank since it will not be official like the rest of the bank statements.

Based on this information, can we still submit the visa application online tomorrow (i.e., Friday, November 29th) and pay all fees tomorrow and then on Saturday (Nov 30th) we get his wage slips from the employer? Do you see any problem with this? In other words, for us to submit application a few days BEFORE we get his last wage slip?

Thank you!

Based on this information, can we still submit the visa application online tomorrow (i.e., Friday, November 29th) and pay all fees tomorrow and then on Saturday (Nov 30th) we get his wage slips from the employer? Do you see any problem with this? In other words, for us to submit application a few days BEFORE we get his last wage slip?

Unfortunately all of the documents should be dated before the date of your application submission.

Burrata,

Thank you for the reply. Are you sure though about that point? I believe I was advised otherwise on this forum before and also by our solicitor in the UK.

Burrata,

Thank you for the reply. Are you sure though about that point? I believe I was advised otherwise on this forum before and also by our solicitor in the UK.

You said your solicitor said it would be better for you to submit on Monday (2nd Dec). I’ve never seen anyone suggest that you can/should submit documents dated after your application has been submitted, but maybe you have. Either way though, is submitting it one working day earlier worth the risk?

Also it seems like you’re suggesting that you will be getting Nov payslip on Saturday, but bank statements on Friday. Is your husband paid on the date that is on the wage slips (ie is he paid on 30th of each month)? If so, you’ll need to get the bank statement after that payment has been received, to show that it was deposited.

Burrata,

Thank you for the reply. Are you sure though about that point? I believe I was advised otherwise on this forum before and also by our solicitor in the UK.

If the documents are needed to count towards the 6 months, then, yes, they must be dated before the application is submitted. Because you have to show at least 6 FULL months of payslips and bank statements dated no later than the online application date.

You really need to have all the documents all ready to be submitted BEFORE you apply online.

In regards to the payslips and bank statements, if you submit the application tomorrow, on November 29th, you cannot count November's pay towards the financial requirement. However, you also cannot use the October payslip as the last one, because it will be dated more than 28 days before November 29th (it'll be dated October 30th) which will not meet the requirements.

So, you will not be able to apply online until AT LEAST December 1st, in order to make sure you have the latest payslip and bank statement dated within 28 days.

This means you will need:
- November 30th payslip
- November 26th bank statement AND a partial bank statement dated on or after November 30th, showing the November payslip deposit.

In total, that means you will need the following payslips and bank statements, for the 6-month period from May 31st to November 30th:
Payslips:
1. May 30th
2. June 30th
3. July 30th
4. Aug 30th
5. Sep 30th
6. Oct 30th
7. Nov 30th

Bank statements
1. May 27 -June 26th (showing transactions from May 27th-June26th)... it must explicitly cover the May payslip deposit
2. June 27 -July 26th
3. July 27 - Aug 26th
4. Aug 27 - Sept 26th
5. Sept 27 - Oct 26th
6. Oct 27 - Nov 26th
7. partial statement printed by the bank covering Nov 27-Nov 30th (or to present date if printed after Nov 30th) and showing the Nov payslip deposit

You said your solicitor said it would be better for you to submit on Monday (2nd Dec). I’ve never seen anyone suggest that you can/should submit documents dated after your application has been submitted, but maybe you have. Either way though, is submitting it one working day earlier worth the risk?

Oh no, he suggested we wait and submit the application online on Monday, not the documents.