Trying to figure out citizenship

So I've got some time off between jobs, and this seems as good a time as any to have a breakdown, hence tackling the citizenship application. Feeling overwhelmed and doomed and hopeless at all the disproving of negatives required for this one, but I've got over 6 years of documentation, so hopefully we'll be able to provide everything a final time, even with the absence of documents that can't exist.

First question: I'm already encountering is the demand for a degree from an English-speaking university. I have two, and a third nearly done, but I thought you 'placed out' as it were, if you were from America. Do I have to fill this in for all my degrees? (Also, the two I have are framed -- how do I provide them?)

I know there are going to be a million other questions, but that's the first hurdle I'm encountering.

If you’re applying based on being married to a U.K. citizen, the application is really simple and hardly requires any documents at all.

I believe all you need to provide is:
- the completed application
- US passport
- any previous passports you have had since arriving in the UK (to show when you arrived)
- BRP
- marriage certificate
- spouse’s UK passport
- Life in the U.K. pass certificate
- your 2 referee declarations

And that’s about it.

KOD applied recently - the thread regarding her application is here:
https://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=95888.0


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That may be true, but doesn't change the fact that I'm being asked to prove that I meet the English language requirement, and I'm being asked for all my degree information, and I have no idea how to provide that in a way that won't cost me an arm and a leg on shipping. (Also, what happens to people from America who don't have degrees and therefore can't prove it?) Skimmed some of KOD's posts, but don't see how she met the language requirement, and that's my first stumbling block. I can get to people and proof of living the married life later.

It appears, according to the .gov website that based on your being a US citizen, you would be exempt from the English language requirement for citizenship application: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions (under title: Prove your knowledge of English for citizenship and settling)

If you read this page: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions - you will see that an applicant from the US is exempt. I assume you just put "exempt" in this section. I can't say for sure as this came in after I applied for citizenship.

EDIT to add: Don't overthink this, and read the instructions before filling out forms. I can't see any reason to submit anything re: your degree programs.

It appears, according to the .gov website that based on your being a US citizen, you would be exempt from the English language requirement for citizenship application: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions (under title: Prove your knowledge of English for citizenship and settling)

Well I've filled in the USA garbage, and I'm still being asked how I intend to prove that I meet the English Language requirement. I hadn't prepped any documentation on this because historically I've been exempt. I'm asking how other people are approaching it now that the application doesn't allow that exemption.



If I tick no, there are no exemptions available. If I tick yes, it leads me through detailing how I'm going to prove myself. There is no option like the historically available one you have linked to, which I had also understood to be the case.

If you read this page: https://www.gov.uk/english-language/exemptions - you will see that an applicant from the US is exempt. I assume you just put "exempt" in this section. I can't say for sure as this came in after  applied for citizenship.

There is no option to do so.

I am looking at Form AN, dated 04-19; on page 7 there is a box to tick if you have an exemption as a national of one of the exempt countries.I would seem that covers it.

I am looking at Form AN, dated 04-19; on page 7 there is a box to tick if you have an exemption as a national of one of the exempt countries.I would seem that covers it.

See my screencap. It's not an option. (I need to keep my passport, as I travel internationally for work on short notice, and the paper form/postal route is last-resort only. So I'm asking how I prove that I meet the English-language requirement, because the exemption is apparently not available online any longer.)

What happens if you tick Yes to "have a degree that was taught in English?"

What happens if you tick Yes to "have a degree that was taught in English?"

Then I have to start filling in information about the degree and tell them how I'm going to give them proof of the degree.

Maybe I'm better off leaving it until after the MSc? And then I'll have something unframed to provide, hopefully before my P60 runs out of validity and we get back to having to the disprove-a-negative-wrt-HMRC situation? So tired of upending my life and trying to time things perfectly because they've got weird paperwork requirements. But I suppose I can hold my breath for another year.

Given that you have filled out the USA bit, and provided all the info that shows you are from the USA, you would simply by-pass the section about degrees, as it is only relevant if you are using that to prove knowledge of English.

Given that you have filled out the USA bit, and provided all the info that shows you are from the USA, you would simply by-pass the section about degrees, as it is only relevant if you are using that to prove knowledge of English.

It doesn't let you. You have to answer in order to advance through the form.

The full 32-page guide AN also specifically states that you are exempt if you are a national of a majority English speaking country, so obviously, you will not need any further proof. The Life in the UK pass certificate that you have to provide is also linked to your US passport. As I understand it, any documents ca either be uploaded or scanned when you go for the biometrics appointment.

I would check "no" and keep going through the application and see where that leads. The answer may appear as you move forward. Not everyone from the US who applies has a degree.

The full 32-page guide AN also specifically states that you are exempt if you are a national of a majority English speaking country, so obviously, you will not need any further proof. The Life in the UK pass certificate that you have to provide is also linked to your US passport. As I understand it, any documents ca either be uploaded or scanned when you go for the biometrics appointment.

I would check "no" and keep going through the application and see where that leads. The answer may appear as you move forward. Not everyone from the US who applies has a degree.

I've tried; the application does not lead you to any country-of-birth-based exemption as you move forward. Besides, if I lie and say I don't have a degree, that's surely deception??